This is probably a bit over my head, but i'll throw out some knowledge, guesses and recommendations.
My first thought was impingement as well. 9 times out of 10, sharp sudden pains will most likely always be nerve related. Nerve pain is COMPLETELY different from musculoskeletal pain because different parts of the nervous system are responsible for the innervations and naturally, different chemicals are released. Anyway, when nerves become involved, the problem may not become more serious, but the issue will become a bit more complex. Muscles heal 5-8 times faster than nerves, so a nerve injury will linger and nag you for a while. But, in this instance, it doesnt sound like you over torqued your shoulder and visited snap city or anything. Shoulder issues are VERY common because the shoulder is the most unstable joint int he human body. The joint itself is very poorly "designed," the muscles the hold the humerus in the socket (the rotator cuff muscles) are very small, weak and fatigue VERY easily, so injuries like subluxations and dislocations occur often. Anyway, there are a few issues that concern the physiology of the shoulder that require a formal Dx from a physio or a PT. One of those is something like a hooked acromion. That is a muscle and bone related though. Anyway....watch these videos and see if this helps you at all.
Wow...um.Well, the pelvic floor muscles are all skeletal muscles which means we have control over them (unlike smooth and cardiac muscle which we dont (They contract/relax on their own). If you do the exercises, they you should be eliminating the problem. I'll be honest though, i've never dealt with the issue at all so that is the limit of my knowledge. Maybe someone on the female misc knows more about the subject
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The rising line indicates a super compensated athlete. A proper application of high-grade stress that caused a severe alarm reaction and hormonal release within the individual. This, in turn, signals a massive resistance stage response, turning the athlete into an anabolic stage that leads to positive adaptation.
The decreased line is the severe alarm reaction from resistance training or w/e stimuli you put on the individual. This signals a massive catabolic hormoneal release. In turn, this forces the body to rebuild the damaged tissue and refill metabolic stores.
That's why periodization is so important, and there are many ways of doing so.
Linear periodization (with tons of research) is the BEST for novice. Always.
More advanced, that's when you can start utilizing block periodization, undulating periodization, the conjugate method, etc.
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One workout. Too many variables. Sleep, nutrition, and just regular life stressors can be at play.
I'd have to see the overall volume of your workout (sets,reps,weights)...and go from there.
Nothing wrong hitting a body part twice a week and 4 days is plenty to recover from, but there's too many variables that could be the reason why the weight felt harder on that accessory lift.
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Not a cot damn one other than a personal trainer. If you live in a an economically sound area then you can make a nice living doing it, but I dont. HOWEVER, you dont need a 4 year degree to be a PT. It helps a chit ton because your theoretical knowledge will be a good bit ahead of the competition (as opposed to joe blow who started lifting at age 15 and did the 3 day weekend course). You REALLY need a SOLID ass plan if you want to stay the course and though. Go ahead and get a plan B, C and D in place too. Get some business classes under your belt, nutrition courses...hell, get some massage therapy classes in there if you can. The more you can do to make yourself harder to turn away, the better
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09-24-2017, 08:34 PM #640
Hey tank what are best exercises for knee pain? Its strange I got some really situational patella pain, I can do deadlifts fine with hundreds of pounds but then if I even just stand up wrong (usually knees further forward) it is nearly enough pain to floor me. I can stick my butt out and stand up that way without pain.
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Do you do leg extensions? These are usually causes for patellar tendonitis type pains. With these pains, you'll USUALLY feel them going UP stairs, sometimes down (which is when i felt them). I'll let Athlean X tell you why Leg extensions are bad for you in the video below. The reason why i'm immediately going with tendinitis here is because:
1. Limited Info
2. In the fitness world, the most common ailments are most common for a reason.
3. The VAST VAST majority of people just dont know enough to recognize that this exercise or that exercise that they see joe shmoe doing in a magazine, on social media or on tv, is terrible. So they recreate it thinking it is the way to go
4. You hear hoof beats, you think: Horses. Not Zebras.
Here is a very good explanation and treatment protocol for Jumper's Knee
Here is Jeff Cavalier with another explanation and substitutions for leg extensions
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09-25-2017, 10:27 AM #642
I have crazy anterior pelvic tilt. I've foam rolled and tightened my glutes for 6 months as they were too loose, I do plenty of running and squatting using my glutes, they are not weak or inactive anymore. Yet the only way I can get my pelvis into normal alignment is to squeeze my glutes. Surely normal people with no tilt do not go walking around all day with contracted glutes?
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Sometimes when I'm sitting in my car or certain chairs, I get a sharp pain in my left glute that runs to the medial of my quad and into the anterior of my knee. This is a pinched nerve right? It never occurred to me until recently, but I've come to the conclusion that it very well could be. Any other thoughts on what it might be and what I should do in terms of stretching or corrective exercises?
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gotta factor in how many kcals you burn in a day, but look at the whole equation over a week long period. Are you still burning more kcals than you take in? Because the laws of weight loss still apply here
It very well could be, though I would imagine you would feel it in other circumstances though. You'd need an MD, PT or at the very least an Xray for confirmation. Though i would recommend a highly rated chiro for treatment“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.” - The Nameless City by HP Lovecraft
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not mobility because mobility is more related to the temperature of the muscles and the contractile force/distance related to their temperature. Look at it like this. If you have a rubber band, will it stretch farther when you remove it from a freezer and stretch it or when its been in your pocket?
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My thesis research is actually on a resistance training program designed purely to fix this.
You have to look at the pelvis as if there are 4 quadrants that each need something.
Core work, lower back stretching, hamstring/glute work, and quad stretching are what needs to happen at each quadrant surrounding the pelvis. Ideally, 3 times a week for about 3 months. It is preferred to give up back squats b/c that puts you into anterior pelvic tilt and reinforcing posture you are trying to reverse. If you go crazy without squatting, then do front squats.
Once i publish my research, i can provide more info on itBench 315x1 - Squat 415x1 - Deadlift 515x1 Total = 1,245
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10-12-2017, 09:09 AM #650
Got an MRI last week regarding a lower abdominal / groin / rectum (!) pains Ive been having on and off for almost a year. Normal wear and tear found on hips, plus a slight impingement, but no news of a hernia nor herniated gut or butt.
My ortho says he doesn't know what is causing the pain. I can do deads and cleans with little to no pain, but squats are pretty much out of the question as is sprinting and heavy lunges.
What's a good leg fill in for squats that won't bother the damaged area but can still give me the meaty power of a squat.
I have been doing a ton of volume on leg extensions, but....
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wow. Um...well. since there is no known cause for your pain, its REALLY hard to suggest an exercise or plan. It actually borderlines on irresponsible since we dont know the cause, we dont know what will make it worse. Since the pain is in the hips, that is the area we need to avoid most likely. BUT the quads and hams cross 2 joints (hips and knees) so they have to be hit from both joints to be effective. The only exercise i can think of off the top of my head is leg extensions/curls but leg extensions arent very good for your ACL. They tend to give you very sore knees. The more time i put into thinking about this one, the more stumped i get. Try to pay more attention to your movements. Ex: What SPECIFICALLY aggrivates the pain? Is in femoral flexion or extension, internal or external rotation, femoral adduction or abduction etc..
random questions:
1. Have you every had a hip injury where you thought you might have torn something?
2. Did the Radi-tech give you a dye injection? Scar tissue is hard to see in MRIs without the contrast“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.” - The Nameless City by HP Lovecraft
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10-15-2017, 06:43 AM #652
Thanks for the reply. No dye in the MRI. The hip injury never felt too bad, jst a gradual build. The groin and butthole pain I knew immediately when they happened though.
The most painful movements are deep squats and a fast sprints. After speaking to my doctor some more, she seems to think the hip pain is totally unrelated to the groin/rectum pain. Her guess is this -
"There is a minor tear like a hernia would have and when I'm squatting with all that weight 315-404 normally, the pressure is herniating and causing the damage / pain the next day, but when I'm not lifting so heavily the "hernia" recedes, thus unnoticeable by the MRI"
I have been doing a lot of extension volume and just keeping it light plus cycling to get my leg work in for now.
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10-15-2017, 07:56 AM #653
okay, why not.
let's see. i've had knee pain for the past 5 or so years, that started during/right after a summer where i played (touch) football almost every day. noticed it at first as a sharp shooting pain when i tried squatting, on the outside, more lower section of my knee. have tried rest, ice packs, foam rolling whatever, still can't do legs. last time i tried maybe 2 years ago, i was able to squat, very uncomfortably, building up to like 95lb squat for about 2 weeks before it started hurting again during the lift, and so i stopped again. MRI says grade 1 chondromalacia or something, x rays all good. nowadays i don't do legs, can't even get into the start position for deadlifts and rows without pain, feels unstable all the time, inflammation/pulsing/tightness often just laying in bed or even just sitting in a chair at work. for some reason i can run though, used to run 2 years back every now and then without much pain. i mean it'd hurt afterwards a bit but it was nothing compared to playing basketball where i can't even walk the next day lol.
GPs gonna book an appt with a sports medicine doctor, but that's gonna take a while (canada ayy). until then if there's anything to help, wat do?***Canadian Crew***
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Overtraining is VERY possible especially if you arent getting your macros every day and resting enough. If you are like me, you dont sleep well in your own bed. I cant keep a solid sleep schedule to save my friggin life. I only feel rested every 5 or so days. even in the army i was still dragging ass all the time.
Specifically, over training is when the physical demands you are placing on yourself exceed your body's ability to meet and repair the damage. If you dont meet your nutritional requirements, then your body will have to draw on storages, which is metabolically expensive and especially harsh when you arent resting enough to give yourself enough time to repair some damage“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.” - The Nameless City by HP Lovecraft
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Well, i dont understand why they didnt use contrast. I mean, I have a SERIOUSLY jacked up low back. I ruptured my L5/S1 and the surgery that fixed that left scar tissue the size of my thumb that wraps almost completely around my sciatic nerve. I had an MRI at the local hospital and they didnt use dye so the impression was interpreted as a massive disc herniation. When i had another one WITH contrast, it was clearly scar tissue which changed things drastically. But I guess the Doc knows whats best. When you see another doc, specifically ask about that though, just to be certain. I really dont know what to suggest here though. Its real hard to Dx from the other end of a comp and its especially dangerous when the pain is idiopathic. But if you have found some exercises that dont hurt too bad, then i'd roll with those. Hop on youtube and look at athlean x and Dr Jo. I emailed Dr. Jo the results of my MRI (the one done without the contrast) and she called it. She said she thought there might be scar tissue causing the issues and when i had the MRI w/contrast she was totally right. If you have the interpretation of the MRI, then i'd try emailing her to see what she says
Runners knee usually stems from a few different issues:
-poor alignment due to a congenital condition
-weak hamstrings and quadriceps (the muscles in the back and front of your thighs)
-muscle imbalance between the adductors and abductors (the muscles on the outside and inside of your thighs)
-repeated stress to your knee joints, such as from running, skiing, or jumping
-a direct blow or trauma to your kneecap
If you have flat feet that makes you more proned to it as well. The best way to keep from making it worse is to strengthen your quads, hams, adductors and abductors. This will stabilize the patello-femoral joint and minimize un-necessary movement. I think you can also get some shoe inserts to help combat flat feet, but i would see a doc about that. The wrong shoe inserts can make knee, hip and low back issues wayyyyyyyyyy worse“That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even death may die.” - The Nameless City by HP Lovecraft
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So I am getting back into body building after not being able to walk well for 3 years. I was walking better 3 days after the leg surgery than I was in those 3 years.
Anyways I am running into an issue that I'm debating on making a thread on. I want to productively start working out again. Problem is I am getting way too sore for way too long. Even if I'm dividing it up into certain days for certain things, I will be sore for 4-5 days. Is there a way to speed up that recovery time? Any tricks or tip?Last edited by Alluna; 10-20-2017 at 12:28 AM.
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Did your diet change? Or your rest cycle? Something physiologically has definitely changed that is for sure. Has anything else changed for you also? Appetite, general sluggishness etc? I'm wondering if maybe you need to hop on TRT. You could try supplementing l-glutamine but that def wont fix your problem. Other than that, I dont have an answer for you man. This is most likely something going on in your integumentary system. After i had my surgery, my t levels plpummeted and i became hypothyrodic. I was always sluggish and 'meh' in the gym with little motivation. It's worth looking into i' say
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