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    Originally Posted by deivukx View Post
    Does sugar affect your physique? I mean as in when I fit some cookies or smth into my macros and let's say it has 53.6gCARBS < 34g of which is sugars in 100g.
    Added sugars up to 10% of total calories shouldn't be a problem.

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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    Added sugars up to 10% of total calories shouldn't be a problem.
    So if I'm on 3k kcal lean bulking, 300g of sugars is no problemo?
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    Originally Posted by deivukx View Post
    So if I'm on 3k kcal lean bulking, 300g of sugars is no problemo?
    Depends, is that total sugar, or ADDED sugar. Naturally occurring sugar is not a problem really, but added sugars should be kept to 10% of caloric intake (300 calories in your case, not 300g).
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    Originally Posted by gbullock32 View Post
    Depends, is that total sugar, or ADDED sugar. Naturally occurring sugar is not a problem really, but added sugars should be kept to 10% of caloric intake (300 calories in your case, not 300g).
    This ^. 300 calories is 75 gram added sugars.
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    I know the forum tends to say BCAAs are useless since the latest protein study - because food (protein) has BCAA and even as a supplement it doesn't stimulate MPS as Leucine alone.

    I was wondering lately about my pre and post workout protein consumption. I wish I had the reference, but I remember reading some study that suggests eating post workout protein no longer than 5 hours from your last protein meal.

    Anyhow, I eat around 40g protein 3 hours before workout (2pm), and my next protein meal (Whey) is after workout (7-8pm). In that case, would BCAA/EAA or maybe even Whey intra-workout yield some benefit?
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    I'm not sure why, but something about my calculations just doesn't seem right for my macro goals. Can someone confirm them for me?

    I am ~167 lbs and 23-25% bodyfat. So, assuming 20% bodyfat, my lean body mass is around 133 lbs.

    Protein Goal = 0.8-1 g/lb lbm = ~130g
    Fat Goal = 0.4g/lb lbm = ~55g
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    Originally Posted by LioRiX View Post
    I know the forum tends to say BCAAs are useless since the latest protein study - because food (protein) has BCAA and even as a supplement it doesn't stimulate MPS as Leucine alone.

    I was wondering lately about my pre and post workout protein consumption. I wish I had the reference, but I remember reading some study that suggests eating post workout protein no longer than 5 hours from your last protein meal.

    Anyhow, I eat around 40g protein 3 hours before workout (2pm), and my next protein meal (Whey) is after workout (7-8pm). In that case, would BCAA/EAA or maybe even Whey intra-workout yield some benefit?
    6 hours in between might be slightly suboptimal. ~4-5 hours might be slightly better. Tiny differences though, not worth worrying about.

    Is this during energy deficit?
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    6 hours in between might be slightly suboptimal. ~4-5 hours might be slightly better.

    Is this during energy deficit?
    Yes, 2 weeks from now I'll start recomping though.
    -This 6 hour gap between protein involving meals only counts as a "bad thing" if there's a workout in between them? Or even on rest days?
    -Anyhow, should I consider buying BCAA/EAA? I may be able to lower it to 5 hours though.
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    Originally Posted by LioRiX View Post
    Yes, 2 weeks from now I'll start recomping though.
    -This 6 hour gap between protein involving meals only counts as a "bad thing" if there's a workout in between them? Or even on rest days?
    It's not bad, it's just that 5 is probably just a tiny bit better. Always. For example: 8:00 13:00 18:00 23:00

    -Anyhow, should I consider buying BCAA/EAA? I may be able to lower it to 5 hours though.
    BCAAs are useless. 10 gram EEAs can fully stimulate MPS, so can 20 gram protein from whey.

    If you're already getting ~4-5 protein boluses spread over the day I wouldn't worry about it.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    It's not bad, it's just that 5 is probably just a tiny bit better. Always. For example: 8:00 13:00 18:00 23:00
    In rest days as well, right?

    BCAAs are useless. 10 gram EEAs can fully stimulate MPS, so can 20 gram protein from whey.

    If you're already getting ~4-5 protein boluses spread over the day I wouldn't worry about it.
    Thanks, so basically I could drink Whey half an hour pre-WO, right? Unless I'll spare some money for EAAs.

    Out of curiousity, why did you ask if I was in a deficit? Either way, bulk or cut, I hit my P minimum, does energy play a role?

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    Thanks, so basically I could drink Whey half an hour pre-WO, right?
    Yes. Or some whey with leucine added.

    Out of curiousity, why did you ask if I was in a deficit? Either way, bulk or cut, I hit my P minimum, does energy play a role?
    Far less of a concern when you're not in deficit.
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    So basicilly i need to take some EEA's every 4 hours to help MPS?
    I know i need 20-40g of Protein to but if im on IF 14/10 if i eat late night 9pm have 50g of Protein but don't do any form of muscle work except walking would that make a difference?
    I sit on my ass until i go to Gym/Cardio at 6pm.

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    Originally Posted by BennoMac View Post
    So basicilly i need to take some EEA's every 4 hours to help MPS?
    Not you really don't need it.

    For people who want to maximise muscle gain and retention it is recommended to have some protein or EAAs every ~4-5 hours.

    I don't know the Australian market so can't recommend anything.
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    Not you really don't need it.

    For people who want to maximise muscle gain and retention it is recommended to have some protein or EAAs every ~4-5 hours.

    I don't know the Australian market so can't recommend anything.
    Just to clarify one last thing - does it matter if there was a workout in between?
    Like, any difference if there's 5 hours between meals on rest days or 5 hours between meals with workout in between.
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    Originally Posted by LioRiX View Post
    Just to clarify one last thing - does it matter if there was a workout in between?
    Like, any difference if there's 5 hours between meals on rest days or 5 hours between meals with workout in between.
    ~4-5 meals spread ~4-5 hours apart is always good for optimal 24h MPS.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    ~4-5 meals spread ~4-5 hours apart is always good for optimal 24h MPS.
    When i start my eventually lean bulk this will be my method.
    but when i sleep will be hard, i will wake and take Whey when i wake then meals as usual
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    Hey guys, so i recently started lean bulking and reverse dieted from 1700 to 2700 calories with no weight gain and perhaps even a bit more fat loss. My first question is, now that I'm not putting on any weight at 2700 calories, does this mean this is my new maintenance???? Very confused cause after my "cut" (cut just to get lean enough for a lean bulk) I am now weighing in at 62.5kg at 176cm tall and 13% bf (bf scale says 12% but I know they're often not correct) and I know for a guy with my stats, maintenance is calculated to much lower than 2700. If 2700 is indeed my maintenance now then do i increase my calories to like 3200 or something??

    Secondly, Im relatively new to training (8 months) and only srsly started counting macros about 3 months ago. I find now more than ever that I always fail to meet the carb requirements for the day and often overshoot my fat macros. Provided I'm meeting my protein macros correctly (1g per pound of bodyweight) would it be ok for me to cut back on carbs and get those extra calories from fat? I dont mean going to extremes such as keto or anything i just wanna know whether their are any negatives to increase fats to say 110-120g per day. My current macros at 2700 calories are P: 135g C:338g F:90g and as you can see my fats are already higher than what most people have.

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    Is there a real advantage of doing CBL or skip breakfast in the morning? On the one hand you're taking hormones to your advantage but on the other you're not following this 4-5 hour protein window
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    Originally Posted by LioRiX View Post
    Just to clarify one last thing - does it matter if there was a workout in between?
    Like, any difference if there's 5 hours between meals on rest days or 5 hours between meals with workout in between.
    One more thing: your questions suggest that you are probably overestimating the difference optimising nutrition can make. The difference between 5 or 6 hours is futile.

    You want to grow more muscle? Stop focussing on minute differences in protein distribution, start thinking about maximising volume in a way that still allows you to recover.




    Originally Posted by gainoot View Post
    Hey guys, so i recently started lean bulking and reverse dieted from 1700 to 2700 calories with no weight gain and perhaps even a bit more fat loss. My first question is, now that I'm not putting on any weight at 2700 calories, does this mean this is my new maintenance????
    Keep increasing calories step by step (100 calories at a time) until you reach your desired rate of weight gain. Eating more fat is fine.

    FYI: These questions were already answered in the sticky: how to calculate macros.

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    Is there a real advantage of doing CBL or skip breakfast in the morning? On the one hand you're taking hormones to your advantage but on the other you're not following this 4-5 hour protein window
    There are no benefits to skipping breakfast or CBL. No hormonal advantage either.

    Eating protein every 4-5 hours is meant for people that want to maximise muscle gain or retention. You can get good results without this.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    One more thing: your questions suggest that you are probably overestimating the difference optimising nutrition can make. The difference between 5 or 6 hours is futile.

    You want to grow more muscle? Stop focussing on minute differences in protein distribution, start thinking about maximising volume in a way that still allows you to recover.

    Thanks man. Yeah I'm currently doing Lyle's GBR. I'm going to start recomping soon so I figured I should really use any advantage there is out there.
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    Is it okay to drink diet drinks with your meals? I mean it's the only way I can fakin force myself to eat boiled eggs.
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    Is it okay to drink diet drinks with your meals? I mean it's the only way I can fakin force myself to eat boiled eggs.
    Don't eat boiled egg if you don't like them.

    You can drink diet drink whenever. Moderation does make sense, as always.
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    Originally Posted by deivukx View Post
    Is it okay to drink diet drinks with your meals? I mean it's the only way I can fakin force myself to eat boiled eggs.
    Yeah, diet drinks are fine...but why are you forcing yourself to eat boiled eggs if you don't like them? There are plenty of other great and tasty protein sources out there.
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    Does eating A LOT of carbs (like 55% of cals) make you more vascular and veins pop out more?
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    Does eating A LOT of carbs (like 55% of cals) make you more vascular and veins pop out more?
    55% isn't a ton of carbs. But no, vascularity is primarily determined by BF percentage and genetics
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    If anyone could help me with my limited English - I went through these studies several times now:
    http://www.nutritiontactics.com/meas...le_full_effect
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/art...9/#!po=32.8125

    -From what I understood, in the first link they say after a meal MPS lasts for a shorter period than Amino Acids - which they call "Muscle Full Effect". Do they mean you can only Stimulate MPS again after 3 hours? Or that you can't because of this effect?

    -In the second link, they suggest 3-4 hours gap between PRE and POST WO meals. They also talk about resistance training stimulate MPS. Does this mean training changes somethinf with how your body respond to ingested protein?

    *I know these things don't really matter in practice. I find this whole topic very interesting though.
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    Originally Posted by LioRiX View Post
    -From what I understood, in the first link they say after a meal MPS lasts for a shorter period than Amino Acids - which they call "Muscle Full Effect". Do they mean you can only Stimulate MPS again after 3 hours? Or that you can't because of this effect?
    No there is no evidence that you must wait a certain amount of time between meals. You can do whatever you like.

    -In the second link, they suggest 3-4 hours gap between PRE and POST WO meals. They also talk about resistance training stimulate MPS. Does this mean training changes somethinf with how your body respond to ingested protein?
    There are two things that stimulate MPS: training and eating protein. Combine both for the maximum effect.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    No there is no evidence that you must wait a certain amount of time between meals. You can do whatever you like.



    There are two things that stimulate MPS: training and eating protein. Combine both for the maximum effect.
    First of all, thanks alot for the quick response, I appreciate this.
    Unfortunately, it doesn't really answer my questions and I suppose I did not ask it correctly, again, apologizes for my english level.

    I'll try to ask more clearly, I have to mention again though, I'm not asking for practice, but I do find it very interesting. If you or another have the time to clarify this for me I'd be very thankful.

    An even balance of protein intake at breakfast, lunch and dinner stimulates MPS more effective than eating the majority of daily protein during the evening meal (Marerow, 2014).
    Now I understand that it's more effective to distribute it from MPS perspective, but about that "Muscle Full Effect" - do they say it's a myth, or do they suggest it's "true"?

    Due to the transient anabolic impact of a protein-rich meal and its potential synergy with the trained state, pre- and post-exercise meals should not be separated by more than approximately 3–4 hours, given a typical resistance training bout lasting 45–90 minutes.
    "It's potential synergy with trained state" - how does this trained state change anything? In other words, does it cause any impact in contrast to rested state?
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    Originally Posted by LioRiX View Post
    but about that "Muscle Full Effect" - do they say it's a myth, or do they suggest it's "true"?
    Let me ask you this, what do YOU think the muscle full effect is?

    "It's potential synergy with trained state" - how does this trained state change anything? In other words, does it cause any impact in contrast to rested state?
    You are worrying about something that you don't need to worry about. You may have a habit of overanalyzing which won't help you.

    If you're having 4 or more meals (/shakes) spread over the day with sufficient protein you've done everything you can do for 24h MPS.

    Higher 24h MPS is always better for optimal muscle growth/retention, rested or trained.

    How does it change? MPS rates are higher in the trained state vs. the rested state.
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