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    Not exactly nutrition related I think, but I wanted to meal prep and wanted to know how big of a food storage container is needed for 1 cup of cooked rice? I am assuming that 1 cup of uncooked rice takes up LESS space than 1 cup of cooked rice?

    I am debating on whether to get 2 cup or 3 cup containers. I am also adding some food on top, so I think 2 cups would be pushing it. 3 cups seems to be the safest choice but I rather not get bigger containers unless needed. How are your storage containers like?
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    I read somewhere that while cutting, you need to also consume fat at least 0.45g/lbs of bw.
    My question is, what happens when you don't consume that amount? Lets say you consume only 0.25g/lbs of bw. What happens?
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    Originally Posted by Zenoboy View Post
    I read somewhere that while cutting, you need to also consume fat at least 0.45g/lbs of bw.
    My question is, what happens when you don't consume that amount? Lets say you consume only 0.25g/lbs of bw. What happens?
    When i did this i was always tired, Grumpy and just generally didnt like anything haha. raised it up and became alot more friendly.
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    Originally Posted by BennoMac View Post
    When i did this i was always tired, Grumpy and just generally didnt like anything haha. raised it up and became alot more friendly.
    Is there more possible drawbacks when you don't eat enough fat while cutting?
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    Originally Posted by Zenoboy View Post
    Is there more possible drawbacks when you don't eat enough fat while cutting?
    To be honest i have not noticed i went for the better part of year running 30-40g of fat per day sometimes less, just so i could get more leaner food into my diet, 0 Fat yogurt, lean chicken, more carbs ect as i had more body fat % my body was fine, now im leaner running low Fat 30-40g a day i feel tired, drained, mood swings.

    I guess the leaner you are the more fats your body needs in your food as it cannot find the fat to compensate in your body.

    Im no Bro-scientist so i cannot give you the reason as to why but fats i beleive control hormones so the less fat the less hormone produced by your body.

    Oh also Sex Drive goes down
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    Originally Posted by Zenoboy View Post
    I read somewhere that while cutting, you need to also consume fat at least 0.45g/lbs of bw.
    My question is, what happens when you don't consume that amount? Lets say you consume only 0.25g/lbs of bw. What happens?
    I don't think there's a problem with 0.4 gram per lb.

    At 0.25 gram per lb testosterone will go down. Sex drive is likely affected. Other hormones can be affected. Many other things can happen. It won't happen in 1 day but if you do it longer there are likely going to be problems.
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    Black tea directly after meals.

    I'm used to drinking black tea directly after meals because I like the taste and the effect and that's usually fine, but lately I've started hitting the gym again and I remember seeing people talk about how black tea somehow prevents digestion of proteins, I'm not sure whether that's true and I can't find solid solid information about this topic, so what do you guys think ?
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    Originally Posted by MohamadMostafa View Post
    I'm used to drinking black tea directly after meals because I like the taste and the effect and that's usually fine, but lately I've started hitting the gym again and I remember seeing people talk about how black tea somehow prevents digestion of proteins, I'm not sure whether that's true and I can't find solid solid information about this topic, so what do you guys think ?
    I drink 3-4 cups of black tea per day, no issues here.
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    Right now im eating 2800 cals and im only 50 kg. Yet, im gaining less then one pound every week. Gonna up my calories this week but wondering why im not gaining even tho im so light? I dont do cardio or anything and quite sedentery. Does it have something to do with my eating disorder a year ago? Has its affected my metabolism somehow? Anyways its not like its a problem. Eating more feels good.

    Just to be clear i am no longer suffering from an ed and that im perfectly a-ok and recovering now.
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    Originally Posted by Michealx View Post
    Right now im eating 2800 cals and im only 50 kg. Yet, im gaining less then one pound every week. Gonna up my calories this week but wondering why im not gaining even tho im so light? I dont do cardio or anything and quite sedentery. Does it have something to do with my eating disorder a year ago? Has its affected my metabolism somehow? Anyways its not like its a problem. Eating more feels good.

    Just to be clear i am no longer suffering from an ed and that im perfectly a-ok and recovering now.
    It's common that naturally skinny people require more calories to gain weight. Don't worry about it.
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    That's actually not really a Nutrition question, but I suppose it's stupid lol.

    I went through one of those recomp studies and did not understand something:
    The consumption of a high protein diet (>4 g/kg/d) in trained men and women who did not alter their exercise program has been previously shown to have no significant effect on body composition. Thus, the purpose of this investigation was to determine if a high protein diet in conjunction with a periodized heavy resistance training program would affect indices of body composition, performance and health.
    What do they mean when they say the ones who "didn't alter their exercise program" had no significant change, and that they are investigating the same on a "periodized heavy resistance training program"?
    Like, what is supposely the difference between those 2 trainings?

    Also, to Mrpb - if you don't mind - we've discussed that fat gain/loss is an outcome of calorie equation, and that muscle gain/loss is an outcome of protein equation. I was wondering, how is that if people were losing fat mass while recomping?
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    I still don't know what my body will do when eating above maintenance as my only comparison is my old eating habits which put me up to almost 300 pounds. Bit this was over 3-4 years. I'm hoping I can eat a little more than 300 cals over maint to gain 1-2 pounds a month when bulking. I believe I'm a mesomorph body type so who knows
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    Originally Posted by LioRiX View Post
    What do they mean when they say the ones who "didn't alter their exercise program" had no significant change, and that they are investigating the same on a "periodized heavy resistance training program"?
    In the first Antonio high protein diet they didn't change their training, they kept training like they did before. In the later Antonio study they did change their training. The training is detailed in the full text.
    Also, to Mrpb - if you don't mind - we've discussed that fat gain/loss is an outcome of calorie equation, and that muscle gain/loss is an outcome of protein equation.
    Maybe that's what you made of it. Both training and nutrition stimulate muscle protein synthesis, this is what drives muscle gain. It requires energy too. That energy can come from fat mass.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    In the first Antonio high protein diet they didn't change their training, they kept training like they did before. In the later Antonio study they did change their training. The training is detailed in the full text.

    Maybe that's what you made of it. Both training and nutrition stimulate muscle protein synthesis, this is what drives muscle gain. It requires energy too. That energy can come from fat mass.
    Everything's clear now, thank you
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post

    Maybe that's what you made of it. Both training and nutrition stimulate muscle protein synthesis, this is what drives muscle gain. It requires energy too. That energy can come from fat mass.
    So this is a first, are you implying that muscle can be built while losing fat? (and I am asking about trained individuals) I thought the energy from fat could not be used to build muscle mass, that along with protein you must be in a caloric surplus.
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    Originally Posted by stillbored View Post
    So this is a first, are you implying that muscle can be built while losing fat? (and I am asking about trained individuals) I thought the energy from fat could not be used to build muscle mass, that along with protein you must be in a caloric surplus.
    The energy has to come from somewhere. Fat has a maximum energy storage amount and transfer rate. At some point when you get lean enough you won't be able to supply all of the necessary energy from fat stores. At that point you'll either have to eat extra or accept sub-optimal gains.
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    Originally Posted by stillbored View Post
    So this is a first, are you implying that muscle can be built while losing fat? (and I am asking about trained individuals)
    Yes. See for example: https://bayesianbodybuilding.com/gai...the-same-time/
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    Originally Posted by blue9steel View Post
    The energy has to come from somewhere. Fat has a maximum energy storage amount and transfer rate. At some point when you get lean enough you won't be able to supply all of the necessary energy from fat stores. At that point you'll either have to eat extra or accept sub-optimal gains.
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    Thank you both. Just a bit surprising when you have heard the opposite for so many years.
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    One more.
    I've been recomping (aiming for maintenance) 9-3 months ago and consumed 2k/2.2k calories on rest/workout days respectively. However, I lost around 15 pounds during this half a year.

    I've read something Eric Helms wrote about this girl who was on a deficit for a few months but didn't lose any bodyweight because she was also gaining mucle.

    My question is, if I lost bodyweight in my "eating-at-maintenance-attempt", does it mean I was by no doubt in a deficit?
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    Originally Posted by LioRiX View Post
    One more.
    I've been recomping (aiming for maintenance) 9-3 months ago and consumed 2k/2.2k calories on rest/workout days respectively. However, I lost around 15 pounds during this half a year.

    I've read something Eric Helms wrote about this girl who was on a deficit for a few months but didn't lose any bodyweight because she was also gaining mucle.

    My question is, if I lost bodyweight in my "eating-at-maintenance-attempt", does it mean I was by no doubt in a deficit?
    Yes, you were in a deficit.
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    If when dieting you feel particularly hungry one day to minimise fat gain which macronutrient would you be best eating outside of your deficit? I assume it would be protein>carbs>fat.

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    Originally Posted by KrisMM83 View Post
    If when dieting you feel particularly hungry one day to minimise fat gain which macronutrient would you be best eating outside of your deficit? I assume it would be protein>carbs>fat.
    Depends on a number of circumstances. Like what are the macros consumed prior.

    Is this referring to eating above maintenance? Or still under?
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    Say you have met your macro requirements (protein/fat) already... and either I guess. Either between the deficit and the <500cal maintenance or once you go over into a surplus?
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    Say you have met your macro requirements (protein/fat) already... and either I guess. Either between the deficit and the <500cal maintenance or once you go over into a surplus?
    Theoretically even excessive protein would mean more dietary fat gets stored.

    Practically there's a higher chance protein leads to increased expenditure. So that would be your best bet.
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    Perfect answer. Thank you!
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    Is there a limit of eggs you can eat in a day ?
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    Originally Posted by wilsonthecat View Post
    Is there a limit of eggs you can eat in a day ?
    Recent research has shown that in 70% of the sample population, eating 3 eggs a day had no negative effects on total or LDL cholesterol (the opposite, actually). Beyond 3 eggs a day, the health effects are unknown except for anecdotal cases. Personally, I eat 4-6 eggs a day. If you'd like to eat a lot of eggs a day, you might consider doing so and then getting a blood test to make sure you aren't in the 30%. I did this.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28091798
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16340654
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    Originally Posted by wilsonthecat View Post
    Is there a limit of eggs you can eat in a day ?
    Observational studies find an increased risk for heart failure when consuming 1 egg per day or more.

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5367008/
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    Does sugar affect your physique? I mean as in when I fit some cookies or smth into my macros and let's say it has 53.6gCARBS < 34g of which is sugars in 100g.
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