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    Exclamation CBD Oil (Cannabidiol) is under threat! It's time to take action! Keep this bumped!

    Once again, the DEA is on a rampage to ban a perfectly safe dietary supplement that has absolutely NO psychoactive effects and benefits a large range of people.

    UPDATE: Please sign the White House Petition to get the Executive Branch's attention about CBD Oil. This won't change their minds, but the more people who sign, the more people become aware of the issue. When we had the kratom petition up to 120-140k people started taking notice and the DEA reversed their position. This is the same idea, so please sign and share with your friends on social media!
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    CBD Oil, if you aren't aware, is an extract from hemp oil with the THC removed. It acts on certain pathways in the body and brain that are extremely beneficial to those suffering from certain debilitating conditions, such as children with forms of epilepsy.

    Why on Earth the DEA wants to ban CBD oil is anyones guess as good as mine, but no doubt it has something to do with the pharmaceutical industry wanting to corner the market on a non-natural, thus, non-patentable product.

    As we did with kratom, we'll have to take action and contact our representatives to tell them to stop this ban https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials



    Please take a moment this thread on Reddit (which, the poster claims will continue to be legal, which is apparently not true according to my sources) and the comments made by me and others in the thread as to what to do to help spread the word about the upcoming CBD Oil ban on January 17th which will make CBD Oil Schedule I along with heroin, LSD and many other substances.

    Why the New DEA Rule on CBD is Absurd

    If you wish, please contribute to your local NORML (they're giving away some stickers, buttons, tshirts, coffee mugs, etc for Xmas) and specifically mention CBD oil in your message to them.

    The Botanical Education Alliance (BEA) may also be able to fight the ban on CBD oil, so a donation or email to them might help as well.

    We're still trying to get organized right now, so if you want to help out and contribute in anyway, https://www.reddit.com/r/CBD/ would probably be the right place to go. We need financial backing, moral support, people who can email/write/call their reps about this and all the same things we did to stop the kratom scheduling. Let me know if you would like to help but don't know what to do and I'll try and point you in the right direction.

    Also, just a shout out a contest, but if you want to enter to win some quality CBD swag, go here CBD Oil Contest. The company that sells that CBD is one of the highest qualities out there, so if you're looking to stock up, I would buy from them. But, I'm also looking for some cheaper sources, so if anyone knows any, shoot me a PM, and I'll keep digging around.

    Love & support brothers and sisters and Happy Holidays. Thanks for reading! Even if you don't use CBD oil, there are many people that do, including children who couldn't function without it. If the DEA bans it, it will be an absolute crime. So, do what you can, and again - best wishes to you and your family this holiday season.
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    Banning CBD oil doesn't make sense. It's completely safe as far as I know from studies on hemp and hemp oil.
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    Banning CBD oil doesn't make sense. It's completely safe as far as I know from studies on hemp and hemp oil.
    It's baffling and I can think of no legitimate reason for the govt to want to remove it's access from the general public. I don't know if they came up with some poison control center numbers or emergency room visits to try and justify it, but again, I'm sure it pales in comparison to alcohol/tobacco and Tylenol.
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    Originally Posted by pogue View Post
    It's baffling and I can think of no legitimate reason for the govt to want to remove it's access from the general public. I don't know if they came up with some poison control center numbers or emergency room visits to try and justify it, but again, I'm sure it pales in comparison to alcohol/tobacco and Tylenol.
    It's more or likely due to its properties as an anti-depressant although it's not as strong as pharmaceuticals.
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    I completely agree pogue, I've seen the great effect of CBD Oil on children with epilepsy and think it's absolutely ridiculous that they would want to ban it.
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    It's more or likely due to its properties as an anti-depressant although it's not as strong as pharmaceuticals.
    But couldn't that argument be made for a lot of other things, like St. John's Wart or OTC lithium?

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    I completely agree pogue, I've seen the great effect of CBD Oil on children with epilepsy and think it's absolutely ridiculous that they would want to ban it.
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    I've watched a documentary on CBD Oil where they had kids with severe seizures and it was remarkable at the difference once they were treated with the oil. They were also using Charlotte's Web to treat them.
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    Originally Posted by pogue View Post
    But couldn't that argument be made for a lot of other things, like St. John's Wart or OTC lithium?
    Not really. Most supplements or otc's don't actually work as described in this pathway. Natural AnTD supps are mostly non existent
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    This is absurd, there has to be a vested interest behind this.
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    I created a White House Petition to try and stop the federal government from scheduling CBD, which you can find here: https://wh.gov/itjPB

    Please sign it, share it and spread it around with friends and family. As with what happened with the kratom petition, it didn't influence policy directly - but it got the word out. Journalists started taking it seriously once the number of people who signed kept growing and growing.

    So, don't be cynical - this isn't going to make the WH or Executive Branch see the light of day and say "Oh! You're right, we'll stop this right now". But sign it anyway and share it and people will take notice.

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    Man, this is just sad. But, I suppose it steps on too many big pharma toes to stick around. And I thought we were finally going the other direction with this
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    Originally Posted by pogue View Post
    I created a White House Petition to try and stop the federal government from scheduling CBD, which you can find here: https://wh.gov/itjPB

    Please sign it, share it and spread it around with friends and family. As with what happened with the kratom petition, it didn't influence policy directly - but it got the word out. Journalists started taking it seriously once the number of people who signed kept growing and growing.

    So, don't be cynical - this isn't going to make the WH or Executive Branch see the light of day and say "Oh! You're right, we'll stop this right now". But sign it anyway and share it and people will take notice.

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    Signed, #2 on it; not much but hope it helps.
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    So, how does this work with states where it's legal? Obviously Marijuana is still schedule one, but decriminalized.

    What I don't understand is how this is even considered a scheduled drug. It's literally just the medicinal aspect of the plant. Not like anyone's going to go out and do cannabidiol recreationally.
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    I lived in Michigan most of my life and luckily medical marijuana was voted in a while ago, now I live in Florida and prop 2 was voted a yes in the elections this year!

    Its a long, arduous road but slowly and surely CBD Oil should be integrated by the DEA. They are just mad they have been losing the war on drugs since they started it. Marijuana should of never been classified as a schedule 1 narcotic to begin with...
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    Originally Posted by AMeyer9 View Post
    So, how does this work with states where it's legal? Obviously Marijuana is still schedule one, but decriminalized.

    What I don't understand is how this is even considered a scheduled drug. It's literally just the medicinal aspect of the plant. Not like anyone's going to go out and do cannabidiol recreationally.
    From what I saw in a YT video earlier this evening is that it will not be scheduled in states where marijuana is legal. Take that with a grain of salt, but it makes sense, because it is a component of marijuana and how could they ban something that's in the actual substance, but not the substance itself.
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    I completely agree pogue, I've seen the great effect of CBD Oil on children with epilepsy and think it's absolutely ridiculous that they would want to ban it.
    This. Makes absolutely no sense to me how people could get behind this knowing that it is increasing poor children's lives right in front of their eyes..
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    This. Makes absolutely no sense to me how people could get behind this knowing that it is increasing poor children's lives right in front of their eyes..
    The DEA is a soulless group of degenerate backward bureaucrats who get sadistic pleasure from banning perfectly safe and healthy compounds from the American public. They have no care or concern for profit, they are not doctors or scientists, they don't care about the companies that make their livelihoods selling compounds such as this, nor anyone who benefits from them. All they care about is being the US's mommy and telling us what we can and can't take and put in our bodies - the majority of the time for no rational or scientific reason or basis. They're power hungry thugs who want to continue the drug war because it benefits them and it benefits their masters, the pharmaceutical industry who take these compounds, extract them, patent them, and sell them at an enormous profit to the American people who have 3rd world insurance and keep them from the people who need them most and will suffer the most because of their policies. The only reason they continue to exist is because they lie and mislead the American public with propaganda, which the corporate media simply parrots back to us, so they can stay in business and continue to collect their very large paychecks to attempt to halt substances coming into the US or being made in the US that cannot possibly be stopped. And of course, every politician loves to put on their CV that they put up a bill that banned a drug to show they are tough on crime and the "think of the children!" mentality.

    The DEA has a budget of around $3 billion dollars, yet have an effectiveness rate of less than 1% (!!!!!) https://mic.com/articles/93496/one-f...een#.VRZeYAuAn



    What's sad is this will continue to go on and on for generations until we get a real leader who is willing to stand up and say enough is enough, "states rights" is not good enough of an excuse to keep the war on drugs going and we need to stop this. Unfortunately, Trump is not that guy, as proven by his track record (which is to say whatever the situation calls for that will get him the most leverage).

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    Shouldn't be banned. But gotta protect big Pharma's $$$$$
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    It's amazing how big pharma bans everything just in case in can be profitable down the line.
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    Originally Posted by pogue View Post
    But couldn't that argument be made for a lot of other things, like St. John's Wart or OTC lithium?
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    Lithium and St. Johns Wart can be deadly though.... CBD isn't anything like those.

    Lithium has a very narrow therapeutic range and blood levels need to be tested often.

    St. Johns Wart is a CYP3A4 inducer and can lead to very significant side effects when combined with other drugs (warfarin, statins, etc.)
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    its simple.. people use it and they technically cant tax it at the federal level.. they will keep it illegal so they can get their money through policies that promote prosecution/seisures.
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    For the bio science folks, here's a good paper on the gene effects of CBD. The % is how much is upregulated/downregulated and the bar is how certain of effect it was (p value)

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3423229/



    compared to its counterpart THC



    venn diagram of # of genes affected

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