Election interference

[Brackneyc]

Ok, so the CIA is saying the Russians interfered with the election. We have electors vowing not to vote for DT.

What now, or what next?

New election?

Just hand the keys to HC?

Leave O in place?

Let DT go ahead on, and do better next time?

[Clinos]

Nothing happens. The Dems get the treatment they've been giving the Reps for years which is pretend the issue has no substance and move on. The population and citizens get screwed. Green party is able to get on more ballots in 2020. Life goes on. Population and citizens get screwed even more.

We wouldn't have a new election, I think the House elects the president.

[Hammerhagen]

While I do agree that's it bad to have the Russians interefering with our election, and this needs to be handled, I can't look past the fact that if the dems and HC weren't lying and cheating, there would have been nothing to hack and share with the American public in the first place. The big problem for the anti trump folks is the chit the Russians hacked were real lies and deceit by the Dems, therefore the Dems have no solid ground to stand on. Maybe we should make Jill Stein the Pres ...j/k

[ljimd]

The new reality. Nobody believes nothing about anything.

Damndest thing I've seen. Bizarro world.

[Brackneyc]

The new reality. Nobody believes nothing about anything.

Damndest thing I've seen. Bizarro world.

Well if the other guy wins, they must have cheated.

[paolo59]

It is 'bizarro world!' I don't know what I think about it. Hacked e-mails didn't influence me. And I doubt seriously that they were much of an influence on anybody else to be truthful. Did the Ruskies hack into HC's campaign itinerary and delete stops in Wisconsin, or Michigan?

[ElrondHubbard]

Did the Ruskies hack into HC's campaign itinerary and delete stops in Wisconsin, or Michigan?

Hmmmmm.....

Come to think of it...

[Clinos]

It is 'bizarro world!' I don't know what I think about it. Hacked e-mails didn't influence me. And I doubt seriously that they were much of an influence on anybody else to be truthful. Did the Ruskies hack into HC's campaign itinerary and delete stops in Wisconsin, or Michigan?

Can't trust the Russians! Hacked the DNC and Democrats all over the US and planted those emails, just so they could turn around and feed them to themselves as Russians to wiki-links. Dastardly.

[Mark1T]

Ok, so the CIA is saying the Russians interfered with the election. We have electors vowing not to vote for DT.

What now, or what next?

New election?

Just hand the keys to HC?

Leave O in place?

Let DT go ahead on, and do better next time?

Not enough electors not voting for DT. No change.

[Karl_Hungus]

Re: Faithless electors.

It takes a special kind of arrogant douchebag to assert that your judgment is superior to the thousands of voters you represent, and therefore act to nullify their votes.

[Fishman15]

Ok, so the CIA is saying the Russians interfered with the election. We have electors vowing not to vote for DT.

What now, or what next?

New election?

Just hand the keys to HC?

Leave O in place?

Let DT go ahead on, and do better next time?

Until I see him leave in the helicopter...

[Fishman15]

While I do agree that's it bad to have the Russians interefering with our election, and this needs to be handled, I can't look past the fact that if the dems and HC weren't lying and cheating, there would have been nothing to hack and share with the American public in the first place. The big problem for the anti trump folks is the chit the Russians hacked were real lies and deceit by the Dems, therefore the Dems have no solid ground to stand on. Maybe we should make Jill Stein the Pres ...j/k

Yea, the real problem with all of this has never been what was discovered that the dems were doing...it was that the Russians found out what the dems were doing.

[Fishman15]

It is 'bizarro world!' I don't know what I think about it. Hacked e-mails didn't influence me. And I doubt seriously that they were much of an influence on anybody else to be truthful. Did the Ruskies hack into HC's campaign itinerary and delete stops in Wisconsin, or Michigan?

hehe...oh stop it now. Such a pessimist...

[crupiea]

Let sthink it through.

The russians have beentrying to push their socialist agenda on us for years. they now have a strong foothold here because of obama.

Hillary would just be an extansion of that.

Why on erath would they want trump there to foil their plans?

if anything they would have sided with hillary.

the media is just full of **** and are grasping at straws.

say the evil russians did it and they dont need to tale any accountablility for their own failures. Its the classic victim mentality that is so popular today. People cant just shake their opponenets hads and say good game and try harder next time. Those days went away the same day everyone got a trophy.

[KeepItMoving]

I can't look past the fact that if the dems and HC weren't lying and cheating, there would have been nothing to hack and share with the American public in the first place. The big problem for the anti trump folks is the chit the Russians hacked were real lies and deceit by the Dems, therefore the Dems have no solid ground to stand on.

This is the bottom line. What Crup said above is true too. Why would the Russians want Trump. obama is the communist, and hillary is, at least, a socialist. Neither of those two would do a thing to stop Putin's reunification of the Soviet land mass.

The liberal media is a really lousy pack of leftist liars. What do you do when a MAJOR pillar required for a free, individual's rights society goes for the collective, anti American philosophy and refuses to tell the truth? It's a weird, critical time in this Country.

Is the CIA under obama as politicized as the EPA..the IRS...the Department of Education... Why not? Is this 'fingerprint' a 'false flag?' It's amazing that we have an Administration under obama that is SO corrupt, that questions like these have legitimacy! http://thehill.com/homenews/309897-b...ere-false-flag

[paolo59]

What I have seen...the FBI has a different story to tell when it comes to Russian hacking. LOL It is bizarro! I don't believe anything I hear anymore!

[waco]

Typical subject shift, blame someone else, invent new catch words. Fake news seems to be the new fad. Psyops playbook step by step.

General public has a memory of a bird. Two weeks max.

Wiki leaks emails, Huma, Clinton, Clinton foundation, Posesta emails, Pizzagate, proof ISIS and who contributed, etc etc. Forgotten in two weeks.

ohh look squirrel!

[GnomusMaximus]

I honestly hope there is nothing too it. If there is 2 things 1) It is highly ironic the CIA is finding a foreign government interfering with OUR election. 2) I think it could cause big problems.

[ljimd]

I honestly hope there is nothing too it. If there is 2 things 1) It is highly ironic the CIA is finding a foreign government interfering with OUR election. 2) I think it could cause big problems.

Doesn't matter. Even if they do find evidence - no one will
believe it.

[acrawlingchaos]

Nothing will be done, nothing should be done (so far as the election is concerned)

Re: Faithless electors.

It takes a special kind of arrogant douchebag to assert that your judgment is superior to the thousands of voters you represent, and therefore act to nullify their votes.

IMO one thing that needs to be changed with the EC is replacing actual electors with a simple arithmetic equation.

Doesn't matter. Even if they do find evidence - no one will believe it.

Didn't Trump at one point invite the Russians to hack the DNC? I'm confident that had the RNC's email been hacked there would have been questionable (at best) material uncovered. We all tend to reveal much more when we are confident that our private conversations are left private. It's troubling that the right doesn't seem concerned with investigating.

[acrawlingchaos]

[acrawlingchaos]

Why on erath would they want trump there to foil their plans?

A decade ago Putin seized Yukos, Russias largest oil company from Khodorkovsky after his imprisonment. He was listed as a political prisoner by the European Human Rights court in 2003.

Putin made a $500 Billion deal with the CEO of Exxon, Rex Tillerson. However Obama placed sanctions on Russia which stopped the deal.

Rex Tillerson is the most likely Candidate for Secretary of State in Trump's cabinet.

[Karl_Hungus]

IMO one thing that needs to be changed with the EC is replacing actual electors with a simple arithmetic equation.

I've said the same. We don't need electors to second guess our voting preferences.

It's troubling that the right doesn't seem concerned with investigating.

This isn't really true. Lindsay Graham, John McCain, and Mitch McConnell are all calling for an investigation.

[acrawlingchaos]

This isn't really true. Lindsay Graham, John McCain, and Mitch McConnell are all calling for an investigation.

Relatively.

[poundXpound]

Nothing will be done, nothing should be done (so far as the election is concerned)

IMO one thing that needs to be changed with the EC is replacing actual electors with a simple arithmetic equation.

Didn't Trump at one point invite the Russians to hack the DNC? I'm confident that had the RNC's email been hacked there would have been questionable (at best) material uncovered. We all tend to reveal much more when we are confident that our private conversations are left private. It's troubling that the right doesn't seem concerned with investigating.

Here in Wisconsin, state law requires the electors to vote for the winner of the state. Problem solved.

[acrawlingchaos]

Here in Wisconsin, state law requires the electors to vote for the winner of the state. Problem solved.

What misdemeanor penalty are they subject to? How many times has a faithless electorate been prosecuted? Seems to me taking the human equation would truly solve it.

[ljimd]

Here in Wisconsin, state law requires the electors to vote for the winner of the state. Problem solved.

Not quite. "Faithless electors" face no penalty.

Section 7.75, Wisconsin Statutes, states that electors must cast a ballot for the presidential and vice presidential candidates they were chosen to elect. However, since there is no statutory penalty for being a �faithless elector� by voting for someone else, the only real constraints are custom, tradition, and loyalty to the candidate and the party.

[2nd_chance]

Ok, so the CIA is saying the Russians interfered with the election. We have electors vowing not to vote for DT.

What now, or what next?

New election?

Just hand the keys to HC?

Leave O in place?

Let DT go ahead on, and do better next time?

It's all noise... white noise

[ElrondHubbard]

Doesn't matter. Even if they do find evidence - no one will
believe it.

Which is why Russia will win.

[ljimd]

Which is why Russia will win.

It appears we have all become too partisan and tribal to believe this is a threat to ALL citizens and not merely an elixer for butthurt as some suggest.