I've been cutting stims out of my daily routine little by little, and am looking to start playing with nootropics more than I have in the past. What ingredient(s)/combos have worked the best for you?
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12-08-2016, 06:26 AM #1
favorite nootropics/nootropic stacks?
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12-08-2016, 07:35 AM #6
Both solid options, also will throw C&P Genius in the mix as it is also stim free.
I have stuck more with the pre mixed noots vs buying and bulk due to my limited knowelege in noots but it is something I have been researching into more and more
This is another good point. AM.com has a whole noot section which is fairly decent to look through.
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12-08-2016, 09:29 AM #7
I'm really not a fan of pre-made concoctions. I mean, i've enjoyed focus XT, but most products are horrendously underdosed and more expensive than buying in bulk
I'd recommend a strong choline source: Alpha GPC is my personal fav, but I also enjoy citicoline. You could get a bitartrate, but the amount needed is significantly higher than Alpha GPC or Citicoline, and the effects are not nearly as pronounced.
I like pairing it with a racetam, but racetams can get pricey. I've been using noopept instead and I really like it. It's far cheaper, and I def notice a tunnel vision like focus from it.
ALCAR is a no brainer, but be careful with pairing ALCAR and choline sources. I have no issues, but some people get brain fog and headaches.
HUP A is in the same boat as ALCAR, but I don't notice as much of an effect.
Rhodiola is great stuff in my books, as is bacopa monnieri
Throwing l-theanine in the mix is awesome, but I prefer it with caffeine.Squat and Deadlift
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12-08-2016, 09:36 AM #9
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Caffeine free?
Alcar, Tyrosine, Alpha GPC, Rhodiola Rosea, Theobromine and Theanine
Like EYS said, it kinda really depends on how far down the nootropic tunnel you're willing to go.
I don't think I've ever heard a positive review of noopept other than his to be honest. I thought it was a huge dud myself.
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12-08-2016, 09:42 AM #11
hmm that could def be a reason. I don't take any prescribed medications, and I haven't seen much literature on using any of these substances when your doctor has prescribed you ADD meds, so I don't want to speak on something I know nothing about. But if you are taking a prescribed medication, I can see how that MAY limit the effects of a nootropic. Nootropics have a very subtle acute effect, where they really shine is through continued daily use (memory and cognition). But yes, I do feel an acute effect from noopept and racetams. It's just not nearly as pronounced as a prescribed medication or stimulant.
It's also worth noting that Noopept is actually a prescription medication in Russia and some neighboring countries. Far from a dud in my books.Squat and Deadlift
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12-08-2016, 09:46 AM #12
I was trying to use noopept in place of the add meds on the days I don't take it to limit my tolerance but still have increased cognitive function.
I need to completely get off the add meds and try the noopept for a few weeks and see if I notice a difference. I'm certainly not expecting add med like results though lol.
Not sure if this is allowed(If not mods please just delete post), but have you tried modafinil?
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I'd start simple with something like:
ALCAR + Alpha-GPC or CDP-Choline; could also go with DMAE, and L-Theanine (may notice more with a small dose of caffeine)
Others mentioned Bacopa Monnieri and Rhodiola Rosea, which would be other solid options.PEScience Representative
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I'll throw out a positive one. Noopept is one of the few Nootropics that I "FEEL" immediately. I get a lazer focus, mild euphoria and just feel sharper overall.
The only other one that ever had a profound impact for me was Pikamilion.
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