The official Q/A thread for those following Evan Centopani's "Iron Intelligence" 12-week muscle building program. "Iron Intelligence" is a thinking man's approach to strength and muscle gains, fusing intensive and instinctive training in the gym with a thoughtful, smart approach to that training. You can sign up and get all the info here:
www.bodybuilding.com/IronIntelligence
If you've started, you may have questions. Evan Centopani has answers. Post them up here.
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11-08-2016, 10:02 AM #1
IRON INTELLIGENCE Q&A: Evan Centopani's 12-Week Muscle Building Plan
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11-08-2016, 10:28 AM #2
Here's the Program Overview
"People forget that hard-and-heavy training is the number-one tool you have to get in shape. By the time you complete this trainer, if you do what you're supposed to do and bust your ass, you'll not only be stronger and bigger, you'll also be better conditioned and able to function at a higher level. You'll be able to train at a level that most other people can't hack. Your standard is going to be higher." – Evan Centopani
Phase I: Strength
Phase II: Size
Phase III: Conditioning
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11-08-2016, 10:30 AM #3
Day 1: Legs
"The first four-week phase of Iron Intelligence is designed to build raw strength. You'll be doing relatively low reps with heavy weight, but your ultimate goal is to be able to use a similarly heavy weight for high reps. So the more strength you can build, the more weight you can carry into a higher rep range and build new muscle. Think of it this way: Squatting 405 for 2-3 reps won't help you build a ton of mass, but squatting 405 for 15-20 will. There's no way your legs aren't taking on new dimensions with that kind of training stimulus." – Evan Centopani
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11-08-2016, 10:31 AM #4
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11-08-2016, 11:07 AM #5
Powerlifting Goals
looks like a great program.I love animal apparel. I am a USAPL powerlifter at 93kg. I would love to try out some of the animal products. How would i go about becoming a universal/animal sales rep currently i have only competed in 1 meet but I am looking on helping out your brand if possible. I am doing my 2nd powerlifting meet on December 4th in Rhode Island. looking to hit a 240 kg deadlift(528 pounds)125 kg bench press(275 pounds) and a 185 kg squat (407 pounds). I know its not that impressive yet however i am only a young 20 year old on the journey to be the best 93kg lifters like Jesse Norris and Layne Norton in the IPF.
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11-08-2016, 11:45 AM #6
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11-08-2016, 11:45 AM #7
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11-08-2016, 11:58 AM #8
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11-08-2016, 12:42 PM #9
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For weeks 5-8, for me, looks like a lot of work on the shoulders back to back. Is there a reason why so close together like that?
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11-08-2016, 12:56 PM #10
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11-08-2016, 05:54 PM #11
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11-09-2016, 07:26 AM #12
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11-09-2016, 09:09 AM #13
Just as an aside and as you are a powerlifter, we do have Q/A threads for sponsored athletes including Dan Green, Andrey Malanichev, etc. Wasn't sure if you knew. These are just a few, World Record holding guys:
Dan: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...BOSS-Dan-Green
Andrey: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...ev-Talks-POWER
Jeremy Hoornstra: http://forum.animalpak.com/showthrea...does-J-HO-knowNew & Improved Universal Rep, For Universal
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11-09-2016, 11:48 AM #14
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11-10-2016, 06:19 AM #15
Indirectly, the main reason is to help ensure that people don't miss back or leg training! As the program moves into the second phase and the number of days in the gym increase from 3 to 4, I want to be absolutely sure that people DO NOT skip back or legs. Based on my experience, people tend to miss days as the week goes on...especially when back and legs are on the menu. SO, by placing them first in the order, it leaves no choice but to train shoulders and chest on back to back days. Have you found that training chest and shoulders back to back takes away from your shoulder training?
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11-10-2016, 06:22 AM #16
Deadlifts are, in my opinion, the best movement for hamstrings BUT in order to be most effective should be performed along with other hamstring movements...to do them once a week as part of back training would, in my opinion, be insufficient. Based on personal experience and what I've observed in people that I've trained, deadlifitng twice each week allows both greater hamstring and back development.
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11-10-2016, 06:26 AM #17
I don't know that it would be ideal for you. From what I understand, post-meet most powerlifters go through a period of rest or lighter training; no? Please forgive me as I'm ignorant in this area. Keep in mind; all out HEAVY lifting is the basis of this program...if that works for you post comp. then that's great.
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11-10-2016, 09:17 AM #18
- Join Date: Aug 2012
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11-11-2016, 06:33 AM #19
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Hey brother! Once you hit a plateau with growing and gaining weight, how many calories do you suggest adding to keep moving? Or do you suggest doing the calculations over again and starting fresh at your new weight?
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11-11-2016, 02:25 PM #20
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11-11-2016, 02:28 PM #21
Yoooo! If I had to nail down a number I would say that the addition of 300-400 calories per day should keep things moving. I was always told that the addition of 200 calories per day was the way to do it but that was always a slow boat to China for me. And I suppose it does depend on the person's metabolism and other factors.
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11-14-2016, 11:00 AM #22
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11-18-2016, 07:40 AM #23
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11-18-2016, 08:43 AM #24
Interesting program.
Is this program for all levels?
I mite consider this once I get to my bulking phase.
Also with Phase 3
Monday: Shoulders and triceps
Tuesday: Quads
Thursday: Back
Friday: Chest, biceps, and abs
Saturday: Hamstrings and calves
I noticed that you have wednesday as the rest day I'm assuming and you have saturday as a w/o day.
If I was to run this program, Saturday would not be a day I could workout. So therefore could one just push things back a day and run it Mon-Fri. Putting hams and calves on fridayUSN Vet, Student, Loser.
Goals
12-15% BF -Goal met 5/26/2017 at around 10-13%
1000LB Club - Goal met 11/9/2017. S/B/D 405lb/305lb/425lb 1135 total
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11-18-2016, 10:47 AM #25
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11-18-2016, 11:51 AM #26
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11-22-2016, 04:56 AM #27
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11-22-2016, 06:16 AM #28
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11-29-2016, 06:45 AM #29
Hey. I just started this program and I am in my 3rd day. I am 6'1 and I weight 215 pounds. I'm looking to lose weight while doing this program. I've been sticking to a calorie deficit of 2200-2400 calories. Is there any advice you could provide for someone trying to slim down on this program. I have pictures of myself in my profile if it provides any assistance. I feel comfortable with my current weight now and I don't mind starting at this stage.
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11-29-2016, 12:27 PM #30
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I tried the back one today just to test it out. I'll start the actual program on Monday so my days will line up the best.
It's been about 4 years or so since I've done deadlifts. I got back into working out around May. I avoided deadlifts because my back was injured at the time. So today was the first time I've done them in awhile.
I believe I have a very weak lower back still. I did everything as the program suggested. Warmed up with just the bar. Tried 110lbs on the working sets. When I got the the 3rd work set of the deadlift my back started having pain. I believe my form is off being it had been so long since I've done one.
My question is :
Should I keep at the deadlift in the program, but start at an even lower weight to work up my back strength and form? Maybe warm up with 45lbs and do 65lbs work sets? I really don't want to deviate from the program by doing a ton of isolation movements to make up for it. I'd like to do deadlifts because I know they help with correct form. I'm doubting buying a belt will help too much. Then again I will admit I definitely am no where near an expert.
Thanks!
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