Don't look now, but Trump just pulled ahead

[dbx]

I agree but sometimes it's mind blowing to see certain people support a candidate that goes against what some claim to believe in. There is a person on this site who has stated that part of their job is counseling sexual assault victims. How does that same person support a candidate with numerous sexual assault allegations against him?

Um....maybe because they're mere "allegations" that are very suspect in nature? Just a guess.

[Iceman1800]

Um....maybe because they're mere "allegations" that are very suspect in nature? Just a guess.

I thought Bill Cosby was innocent too.

[Karl_Hungus]

I agree but sometimes it's mind blowing to see certain people support a candidate that goes against what some claim to believe in.

Because you have to choose which candidate on balance agrees with most of the things that are important to you. Few of us are one issue voters. If a candidate is disqualified because one view is inconsistent with your values and beliefs, most of us would never vote for anybody.

[SP1966]

I agree but sometimes it's mind blowing to see certain people support a candidate that goes against what some claim to believe in. There is a person on this site who has stated that part of their job is counseling sexual assault victims. How does that same person support a candidate with numerous sexual assault allegations against him?

Is it really that hard to understand? Satan could run on the Dem ticket and 90% of union people wouldn't give a single ****. The idea that people vote for a candidate in Presidential elections is moronic.

[wesleysh21]

I agree but sometimes it's mind blowing to see certain people support a candidate that goes against what some claim to believe in. There is a person on this site who has stated that part of their job is counseling sexual assault victims. How does that same person support a candidate with numerous sexual assault allegations against him?

It would be mind blowing if the alternative wasn't so flawed and corrupted. We are picking our poison in this election.

[dbx]

I thought Bill Cosby was innocent too.

But there are no formal charges made against Trump....and no court dates scheduled. Big difference. And the Coz wasn't running for office when those allegations came out of the closet by the dozen....at the last moment. Critical thinking, Jim.....it's a lost art.

[Mark1T]

The majority of people think Cosby is guilty.

[dbx]

The majority of people think Cosby is guilty.

Well, yeah. He admitted to several heinous acts, along with nearly 60 accusers! http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/...tion-teenagers

[Iceman1800]

But there are no formal charges made against Trump....and no court dates scheduled. Big difference. And the Coz wasn't running for office when those allegations came out of the closet by the dozen....at the last moment. Critical thinking, Jim.....it's a lost art.

Again with your subtle insults. If you can't post like a grown up, don't post.

[bodyhard]

I agree but sometimes it's mind blowing to see certain people support a candidate that goes against what some claim to believe in. There is a person on this site who has stated that part of their job is counseling sexual assault victims. How does that same person support a candidate with numerous sexual assault allegations against him?

I hear ya on that, but you don't have to belittle or call the person names, you can just say, " I can't understand how you can agree with such and such candidate" You don't have to say the person is dumb, stupid, with no morals etc etc, just because he/she is voting for said candidate.

I mean would anyone here actually call people any of the above names or worse in person?

[JUSA]

See this is the kind of sh!t that pisses me off about political discussions.

Putting everyone into one category is f'cked up man, just because they don't agree with you why do you have to belittle them?

I can see not liking the candidate, but why diss the supporters?

That's like hating the playa, because you hate the game. hate the game not the playa and I am not talking sports here...

I wouldn't get too worked up about it, I don't think HRC actually has any supporters - just people who despise Trump enough that they're voting for #Her.

I agree but sometimes it's mind blowing to see certain people support a candidate that goes against what some claim to believe in. There is a person on this site who has stated that part of their job is counseling sexual assault victims. How does that same person support a candidate with numerous sexual assault allegations against him?

Because they're almost assuredly completely and utterly false? That most were debunked almost instantly? That it's highly suspect they would all come out at the moment they did if it were not an organized attempt to smear Trump?

Ask yourself, what is more likely:

1. 14 women came out against Trump all at the same time and right after Trump hit Clinton on her husband's shady sexual predator past. All the women are telling the truth, other than the majority which were debunked and were not. The others, however, are legitimate and it's a pure coincidence they came out at this moment.

2. Hillary leaned on her old pal Gloria to help her out and since many were shown to be lying, odds are that they all probably were or overstating a far more innocent situation for publicity/payoff/who-knows.

Man, I could run around and cry you touched me in my pee-pee all day and all night, it doesn't make it true (note: it's not true, in case anyone was wondering). It's not like with Bill, who I won't even go so far as to say is anything (just likely), he's paid nearly a million dollars in one case and had allegations like this hounding him for years, not simply popping up the month before he's about to get voted on for President.

[machined]

The polls are showing the biggest movement away from Hillary to Trump after the investigation was reopened is women and minorities. Only white men who've supported Hillary are uniformly holding out.

[so-tex]

It would be mind blowing if the alternative wasn't so flawed and corrupted. We are picking our poison in this election.

Kinda like a venereal disease.
Let's see... Do I want syphilis or gonorrhea for the next 4 years.

[dbx]

Again with your subtle insults. If you can't post like a grown up, don't post.

It's fair game in a political thread. And it wasn't a subtle insult, it was simply an observation. Sorry that you took it personally.

[JUSA]

The polls are showing the biggest movement away from Hillary to Trump after the investigation was reopened is women and minorities. Only white men who've supported Hillary are uniformly holding out.

I would make a joke here, but it pretty much writes itself.

[bodyhard]

I wouldn't get too worked up about it, I don't think HRC actually has any supporters - just people who despise Trump enough that they're voting for #Her.

Not sure what you mean by this, I am not upset that people are voting for Hilary, I honestly couldn't care less. My point was that people who start discussing politics tend to start dissing not only the candidates (That I could see) but dissing the voters/supporters and that sh!t right there to me is f'cking weak.

If I was in a political discussion and the person I am talking to starts dissing Trump I would not give two fcks, but if he starts calling me dumb, stupid, retarded etc etc, I would punch him right in the f'cking face with the quickness.

[JUSA]

Not sure what you mean by this, I am not upset that people are voting for Hilary, I honestly couldn't care less. My point was that people who start discussing politics tend to start dissing not only the candidates (That I could see) but dissing the voters/supporters and that sh!t right there to me is f'cking weak.

If I was in a political discussion and the person I am talking to starts dissing Trump I would not give two fcks, but if he starts calling me dumb, stupid, retarded etc etc, I would punch him right in the f'cking face with the quickness.

It was kind of a joke.

Guy calls Hillary supporters (insert negative insult here). My point was: there are none. (that's the joke)

I know plenty of people voting for Hillary, but almost all of them irl (or ********, however real that is) don't say anything good about her, just blast Trump (oh and do they). I have 1 friend, and I've got somewhere in the 400 neighborhood total, who posts positive things about her. One.

You're right, though. Someone voting for Trump doesn't make them stupid or a racist or whatever and if someone votes for Hillary, and my roots are in Austin so I know quite a few who are, that doesn't mean anything either. I may disagree but blanket terms don't serve any purpose. I probably wouldn't start punching someone if they called me a name though, but my guess is you wouldn't either (internet = we say ****, that's how it works). Dunno though, you're a yank from New York so maybe that's just how you people do things (buuurn, and since I don't know you very well, that was another attempt at a joke, doing the exact same thing we were talking about, except using your location rather than political views)

[Fishman15]

Have any of you attended a rally for either presidential candidate? I see very few signs and little enthusiasm for either one. We have a wide spectrum of folks here and if none of us have attended, then that that is pretty telling.

What I would like to know is if anyone here has been asked to participate or if they know anyone in their life who has participated in a poll?

My answer is no and no...

[dbx]

....and my roots are in Austin....

Austin and Houston are the most liberal (major) cities in TX, right?

What I would like to know is if anyone here has been asked to participate or if they know anyone in their life who has participated in a poll?

My answer is no and no...

I've been polled once, back during Bush/Gore. I've also had my local congressman personally call me and invite me to a "50 person conference call/town hall meeting".

[bodyhard]

It was kind of a joke.

Guy calls Hillary supporters (insert negative insult here). My point was: there are none. (that's the joke)

I know plenty of people voting for Hillary, but almost all of them irl (or ********, however real that is) don't say anything good about her, just blast Trump (oh and do they). I have 1 friend, and I've got somewhere in the 400 neighborhood total, who posts positive things about her. One.

You're right, though. Someone voting for Trump doesn't make them stupid or a racist or whatever and if someone votes for Hillary, and my roots are in Austin so I know quite a few who are, that doesn't mean anything either. I may disagree but blanket terms don't serve any purpose. I probably wouldn't start punching someone if they called me a name though, but my guess is you wouldn't either (internet = we say ****, that's how it works). Dunno though, you're a yank from New York so maybe that's just how you people do things (buuurn, and since I don't know you very well, that was another attempt at a joke, doing the exact same thing we were talking about, except using your location rather than political views)

Ahh OK I see what you are saying...

For the record, yes I would literally crack someone across the jaw if they disrespect me in anyway.

[Fishman15]

I hear ya on that, but you don't have to belittle or call the person names, you can just say, " I can't understand how you can agree with such and such candidate" You don't have to say the person is dumb, stupid, with no morals etc etc, just because he/she is voting for said candidate.

I mean would anyone here actually call people any of the above names or worse in person?

You mean like saying we are just a basket of deplorables right?

[Iceman1800]

The reason I brought up Cosby is the parallel among assault victims. It's common for them to feel shame and remain silent. Only when one speaks out, do others have the courage to speak out too. Trump has a history of allegations on this subject. Allegations of rape, inappropriate advances and comments. Pageant contestants claiming he walked into their dressing areas while they were changing. His own words on tape talking about how his wealth and celebrity status affords him the right to "grab her by the p*ssy". All of these women are lying about him? Really?

[x-trainer ben]

What I would like to know is if anyone here has been asked to participate or if they know anyone in their life who has participated in a poll?

My answer is no and no...

Well in the R +P i asked 3 questions, and the answers were all no. I asked who was going to volunteer to help with the Trump campaign, who donated money(1 or 2 did) and who has been called for polling? This site has about 14 million members so i figured at least someone did. No dice.

[thomashenry]

The arrogance of those who run our government never cease to amaze me with their false hubris. Take special note here, they run our government; We make the country run. Most have never run anything in the real world, Unlike Mr Trump, Like all of us they are flawed and fallible including both Candidates, and yet they seek a position of power, which allows them to act infallible. Although most have no real success in running their own lives they feel qualified to tell you how to run yours. They are not qualified to manage a 7-11 but feel qualified to micromanage the largest economy on earth. Our president is the epitome of such arrogance. He parlayed a gig of handing out forms as a community organizer into a belief that it qualified him to fundamentally transform America, take over its healthcare system and even stop the rising tides. These are the people you are going to cede your liberty too? Really? These people? or the Wild Card, the Bull in the China Shop, the one who is basically telling EVERYONE {establishment miscreants} to Fck off, were going to change this chit now so get off or get on Board

[MrMakAttack]

I think it is safe to say there is going to be outrage regardless of who is elected. Both of these candidates suck balls. So, everyone should just vote for a third party....if nothing more than to cast a vote of dissent.

[dbx]

The reason I brought up Cosby is the parallel among assault victims. It's common for them to feel shame and remain silent. Only when one speaks out, do others have the courage to speak out too. Trump has a history of allegations on this subject. Allegations of rape, inappropriate advances and comments. Pageant contestants claiming he walked into their dressing areas while they were changing. His own words on tape talking about how his wealth and celebrity status affords him the right to "grab her by the p*ssy". All of these women are lying about him? Really?

Yes, we all know about the "silence" that truly exists among women who have been sexually assaulted. However, there's a big difference (here) between 60 women coming forward, all claiming to be "drugged"....and a rich playboy who MAY have crossed some boundaries while flirting with women. One caption posted here used the word "rape", but if you read the article/claim...NOT a SINGLE ONE of these women even claimed rape. Not one!

And ironically, as I posted just yesterday (early in the day), "I wonder why the DNC and/or HC aren't even talking about these "claims" against Trump?" But of course, since the latest Wikileaks and other readings of her email came out....they actually went back to spotlighting this yesterday during her stops! It's hilarious. Politics as usual. She's desperate and sees her "destiny" slipping out of her fingers.

[bodyhard]

You mean like saying we are just a basket of deplorables right?

But that was the candidate, I am talking about the voters/supporters against the voters/supporters.

[Fishman15]

Austin and Houston are the most liberal (major) cities in TX, right?



I've been polled once, back during Bush/Gore. I've also had my local congressman personally call me and invite me to a "50 person conference call/town hall meeting".

Well, that's something anyway...

[Fishman15]

But that was the candidate, I am talking about the voters/supporters against the voters/supporters.

That certainly doesn't set a very good precedence for her supporters though.

[machined]

I think it is safe to say there is going to be outrage regardless of who is elected. Both of these candidates suck balls. So, everyone should just vote for a third party....if nothing more than to cast a vote of dissent.

Replacing Obamacare, decreasing taxes, improving national security, securing the border, fair trade, meaningful job creation and a pro life constructionist SCOTUS are too important to throw a vote away.