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    Originally Posted by darkcancerbrain View Post
    The reality is you're a troll. Kevin in 2000 started to have seriously downsized legs and his back was much weaker than it had been before. His conditioning was good but not amazing. His 1995 look was far superior, among others.
    No, that isn't the reality.

    If you look at this vid from prejudging at 2:09-2:16, you will see he had crazy detail in his back


    Also, the side tricep shot at 2:41 is fukin MIND BLOWING, hence I call him the most spectacular physique ever.

    Originally Posted by darkcancerbrain View Post
    Levrone might have beAten ronnie in 2002 if he still had his 90's legs but by that point they were almost as bad as they were in 2016.
    That's what I've stated before, that Levrone would have won the 2002 Olympia if his legs had of been a bit bigger.

    Also, LOL @ you calling me a troll when your other account got banned...for trolling.
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    Levrone stated that he should have won in 2000 and 2002. Just like how Flex got pissy in '98 and how Shawn Ray bitched about Dorian. That doesn't make it true.
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    Is ronnie beating levrone in every muscle group there? I think he might
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    Kevin's 2000 physique couldn't even beat Ronnie in 2002. If Kevin was in his '97 form he could have.
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    Originally Posted by Diamhea View Post
    Kevin's 2000 physique couldn't even beat Ronnie in 2002. If Kevin was in his '97 form he could have.
    Troll confirmed. He placed 4th in 97.
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    Originally Posted by Unbiasedfan View Post
    Is ronnie beating levrone in every muscle group there? I think he might
    Nope. He's only beating him in lats and glutes. Coleman also has serious symmetry issues from the rear.
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    Originally Posted by batspoof View Post
    Troll confirmed. He placed 4th in 97.
    Stay out of my thread, thanks in advance.
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    Originally Posted by Diamhea View Post
    Stay out of my thread, thanks in advance.
    Learn how to troll properly, thanks in advance.
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    Originally Posted by batspoof View Post
    Nope. He's only beating him in lats and glutes. Coleman also has serious symmetry issues from the rear.
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    Originally Posted by batspoof View Post
    Nope. He's only beating him in lats and glutes. Coleman also has serious symmetry issues from the rear.
    Levrone only had Coleman beat on the midsection, rear delts and the lateral head of the tricep. Even levrones world class Delts weren't as good overall and his triceps didn't have a good longhead.
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    Originally Posted by darkcancerbrain View Post
    Levrone only had Coleman beat on the midsection, rear delts and the lateral head of the tricep. Even levrones world class Delts weren't as good overall and his triceps didn't have a good longhead.
    The judges do not judge competitor's physiques by comparing individual body parts to individual body parts you ignoramus. Levrone had Coleman beat on conditioning, symmetry, and arguably proportion as well. Coleman had more muscle mass.
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    Originally Posted by batspoof View Post
    The judges do not judge competitor's physiques by comparing individual body parts to individual body parts you ignoramus. Levrone had Coleman beat on conditioning, symmetry, and arguably proportion as well. Coleman had more muscle mass.
    No kidding all I'm saying is Coleman destroyed levrone in development, conditioning and symmetry. Levrone had Coleman on shape thats it.

    As for poses: levrone only wins the ab thigh and side tricep. Most muscular he holds his own in the upper body only to get smoked in the lower section, same with the front lat spread and side chest. Front double bicep is clearly ronnie. I'm not even going to mention the rear poses. Clearly you have no clue on how contests are judged, everyone on here except you thinks ronnie won handedly that year.
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    Originally Posted by darkcancerbrain View Post
    No kidding all I'm saying is Coleman destroyed levrone in development, conditioning and symmetry. Levrone had Coleman on shape thats it.

    As for poses: levrone only wins the ab thigh and side tricep. Most muscular he holds his own in the upper body only to get smoked in the lower section, same with the front lat spread and side chest. Front double bicep is clearly ronnie. I'm not even going to mention the rear poses. Clearly you have no clue on how contests are judged, everyone on here except you thinks ronnie won handedly that year.
    You're on a forum full of people who think Ramy deserved to win the 2016 Olympia just for being wider than Phil. So, what they think is of little to no relevance. Oh yeah, and I'm now convinced you don't actually know the meaning of "symmetry".
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    Originally Posted by batspoof View Post
    You're on a forum full of people who think Ramy deserved to win the 2016 Olympia just for being wider than Phil. So, what they think is of little to no relevance. Oh yeah, and I'm now convinced you don't actually know the meaning of "symmetry".
    Symmetry from a bodybuilding perspective means proportion. Ronnie was very proportional, maybe his triceps were a little underwhelming to his biceps and his calves to his quads but that's it. Kevin had an underwhelming back compared to his arms delts. his chest was weak compared to his tris and delts. His tris were overpowering his biceps. His legs were good early on but by 2000 were average at best.

    If we're taking about the traditional meaning, ronnie is more symmetrical. He had a lower back assymetry. Levrone had pec arm and shoulder assymetry.
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    Originally Posted by darkcancerbrain View Post
    Symmetry from a bodybuilding perspective means proportion. Ronnie was very proportional, maybe his triceps were a little underwhelming to his biceps and his calves to his quads but that's it. Kevin had an underwhelming back compared to his arms delts. his chest was weak compared to his tris and delts. His tris were overpowering his biceps. His legs were good early on but by 2000 were average at best.

    If we're taking about the traditional meaning, ronnie is more symmetrical. He had a lower back assymetry. Levrone had pec arm and shoulder assymetry.
    No, symmetry in bodybuilding means symmetry, and proportions means proportions. Just because people misuse the words, doesn't mean the words have different meanings because of bodybuilding.
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    Originally Posted by Exane View Post
    No, symmetry in bodybuilding means symmetry, and proportions means proportions. Just because people misuse the words, doesn't mean the words have different meanings because of bodybuilding.
    A lot of people use them interchangeably, either way I think it's quite evident Ronnie was more symmetrical and proportional than Kevin.
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    Originally Posted by darkcancerbrain View Post
    A lot of people use them interchangeably, either way I think it's quite evident Ronnie was more symmetrical and proportional than Kevin.
    They shouldn't.

    He was, but Kevin wasn't far off. He lacked development in the back and legs, he wasn't held back by his symmetry and only slightly by his proportions, mostly lower to upper body.
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    Originally Posted by Exane View Post
    They shouldn't.

    He was, but Kevin wasn't far off. He lacked development in the back and legs, he wasn't held back by his symmetry and only slightly by his proportions, mostly lower to upper body.
    Kevin was definitely 2nd at that contest (which is saying something in a lineup that had the likes of Flex, Shawn, Nasser and Ronnie), a lot of the 90s guys by that point were on the decline by that point unfortunately. Kevin was more proportional in the mid 90s imo, arms and delts weren't quite as big but they had better separation (reasons which I won't mention but most can guess as to why), his legs were good and his back was decent. It's pretty impressive how he got his back up for 2002 but unfortunately by that point his legs were almost 2016 bad. In 1992 he was the polar opposite of what he would later become, very solid hams and the best quads on the Olympia stage that year, overpowering his upper body.
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    The only thing I like better on levrone is his biceps, ronnies look like cyst ready to explode, but I think ronnie won in every other department
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    I prefer Kevin in 00 over Ronnie but facts are facts, his back double bicep was weak and legs starting to diminish.

    Would he have won if he had those 2 muscle groups in check? I'd say it's debatable.
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    Originally Posted by JigPig View Post
    I prefer Kevin in 00 over Ronnie but facts are facts, his back double bicep was weak and legs starting to diminish.

    Would he have won if he had those 2 muscle groups in check? I'd say it's debatable.
    IMO Kevin's best was around '97-'98 peaking at the '98 NOC:


    He seemed to lose something after '98 and it was a slow decline after that. I actually kinda liked his '01 Olympia showing... more than 2000. But that's a story for another day
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    Originally Posted by Diamhea View Post
    IMO Kevin's best was around '97-'98 peaking at the '98 NOC:


    He seemed to lose something after '98 and it was a slow decline after that. I actually kinda liked his '01 Olympia showing... more than 2000. But that's a story for another day
    IS Kevin actually beating Ronnie in legs there?? and possible every other part "being shown"..im sure his back wasnt as good still..
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    Originally Posted by mikieson View Post
    IS Kevin actually beating Ronnie in legs there?? and possible every other part "being shown"..im sure his back wasnt as good still..
    It's just a nice camera angle. Ronnie obliterated him.




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    Originally Posted by POTA View Post
    It's just a nice camera angle. Ronnie obliterated him.




    I'll say Kevin looks decent though and holding his own. Kevin's legs look pretty thick and detailed even.
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    Originally Posted by mikieson View Post
    I'll say Kevin looks decent though and holding his own. Kevin's legs look pretty thick and detailed even.
    It's no contest. Levrone looks good but it's no contest, judging from these pics.
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    Kevin looks great and is one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time.

    With that said, he has no chance against Ronnie. Ronnie beats everyone with ease every year he won.

    Also, batspoof is an idiot and a troll
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    Originally Posted by Gorky88 View Post
    Kevin looks great and is one of the greatest bodybuilders of all time.

    With that said, he has no chance against Ronnie. Ronnie beats everyone with ease every year he won.

    Also, batspoof is an idiot and a troll
    I think that 02 Kevin's upper front body beat Coleman(he was really flat that year) but that's about it. Coleman smokes him everywhere else for the most part but I give levrones front the nod in 02.

    The real question is will we ever see a true successor to the GOAT Ronnie Coleman? Not for a long time I believe
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