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[Konrai]

Thursday night date:

-Talk to girl for a few weeks
-She lives 1.5 hours away
-I drive up to where I used to live to get snowboarding stuff, mail, etc (plus go on a date with her)
-Meet for dinner
-She's super friendly, talkative, no lulls in conversation at all, lots of laughing
-She likes drugs
-She lost count of how many dudes she's banged after 50 or 60
-She's cheated on boyfriends before (but never got back with them afterwards)
-After we part, I find myself making excuses in my head as to why she'd be dating material
-I catch myself thinking this **** but realize it's because I've had such a bad string of luck that I'm not thinking straight

I'll continue to talk to her and go see her again if it's a guaranteed hookup, otherwise no. She's EXTREMELY free with her sexuality and admits to it but also wonders why she can't meet a guy to date. I almost said "What guy is going to buy the cow when he can have the milk for free?" but then I caught myself and said nothing instead.

I also noticed something else on the date that I notice ALL THE TIME with women. They low-key say things towards the end of the date to let you know you're not fcking them. With her, it was about doing laundry. I called her out instantly and said "Don't worry, I get the hint" but she swears up and down she was just saying it without thinking. In reality, it's a female defense mechanism when they don't know how to handle the end of the date and they're probably worried about guys being too pushy. It's just something I always notice assuming I'm not hooking up with the girl in which case nothing like that is said.

Overall, at least it was a decent date, she's just not dating material in the slightest.

Assuming she is attracted to you, she will let you bang anyway...After all you're just going to be another guy she lost count of despite her defensive mechanisms lol.

[goodcupcakes]

Thursday night date:

-Talk to girl for a few weeks
-She lives 1.5 hours away
-I drive up to where I used to live to get snowboarding stuff, mail, etc (plus go on a date with her)
-Meet for dinner
-She's super friendly, talkative, no lulls in conversation at all, lots of laughing
-She likes drugs
-She lost count of how many dudes she's banged after 50 or 60
-She's cheated on boyfriends before (but never got back with them afterwards)
-After we part, I find myself making excuses in my head as to why she'd be dating material
-I catch myself thinking this **** but realize it's because I've had such a bad string of luck that I'm not thinking straight

I'll continue to talk to her and go see her again if it's a guaranteed hookup, otherwise no. She's EXTREMELY free with her sexuality and admits to it but also wonders why she can't meet a guy to date. I almost said "What guy is going to buy the cow when he can have the milk for free?" but then I caught myself and said nothing instead.

I also noticed something else on the date that I notice ALL THE TIME with women. They low-key say things towards the end of the date to let you know you're not fcking them. With her, it was about doing laundry. I called her out instantly and said "Don't worry, I get the hint" but she swears up and down she was just saying it without thinking. In reality, it's a female defense mechanism when they don't know how to handle the end of the date and they're probably worried about guys being too pushy. It's just something I always notice assuming I'm not hooking up with the girl in which case nothing like that is said.

Overall, at least it was a decent date, she's just not dating material in the slightest.

I've had that happen before. I'm glad that chit kicks in but I always feel dumb af for letting it get to that point that I'm rationalizing terrible behavior on their part. It's why it's good to not put any stock in online dating, only troll responses because the game on there is wayyyyyyy out of whack. If you start to align your successes online with how you perceive yourself irl your self-worth plummets and you justify chit you know is fuked.

Sometimes it's a gradual slope that you don't notice because you've been in a drought for longer than you'd like so it's always good to have a sobering slap to the face when you realize you're slipping.

[FitnessBlue]

I've had that happen before. I'm glad that chit kicks in but I always feel dumb af for letting it get to that point that I'm rationalizing terrible behavior on their part. It's why it's good to not put any stock in online dating, only troll responses because the game on there is wayyyyyyy out of whack. If you start to align your successes online with how you perceive yourself irl your self-worth plummets and you justify chit you know is fuked.

Sometimes it's a gradual slope that you don't notice because you've been in a drought for longer than you'd like so it's always good to have a sobering slap to the face when you realize you're slipping.

The misc is not ready for such reality.

-feels, and reps

[Solomonlike]

I've had that happen before. I'm glad that chit kicks in but I always feel dumb af for letting it get to that point that I'm rationalizing terrible behavior on their part. It's why it's good to not put any stock in online dating, only troll responses because the game on there is wayyyyyyy out of whack. If you start to align your successes online with how you perceive yourself irl your self-worth plummets and you justify chit you know is fuked.

Sometimes it's a gradual slope that you don't notice because you've been in a drought for longer than you'd like so it's always good to have a sobering slap to the face when you realize you're slipping.

What a powerful and wise post! Will rep off r/c.

The misc is not ready for such reality.

-feels, and reps

Misc? There aren't too many humans walking this earth in general that are ready for such reality, much less the misc.

[KMadigan777]

I've been killing online with a line I even found online (lolzz) 'Ive had a crush on you forever' I dont even read the profiles, just mass spam and see who responds. Some girls get its a joke others are like 'omg really!?' Then I follow up with a 'what do you do' one girl called me on it 'it says in the first line what i do...' hahaha.


Met girl from okc
says shes a squirter
meet at 11pm at night in a park (i cant believe she met me honestly)
way fatter than in pics
i start to finger her to see what squirting is all about (never been with one)
she doesnt even have underwear on
shes cums and my hand gets flooded with liquid, kind of gross honestly
we go our separate ways
she texts me a bunch 'how it felt so good'
then tells me she is going to tell her bf (wtf!?) who asked her to marry him after he gets back from army training thats its over
I never text or respond to her again

Disgusting af that this sloot has some army guy who wants to MARRY HER and she is getting fingered by some guy within an hour. To be clear I did not know anything about this relationship until she dropped it on me.

SLOOTS GON SLOOT BROS

[BlackScorpio91]

I've been killing online with a line I even found online (lolzz) 'Ive had a crush on you forever' I dont even read the profiles, just mass spam and see who responds. Some girls get its a joke others are like 'omg really!?' Then I follow up with a 'what do you do' one girl called me on it 'it says in the first line what i do...' hahaha.


Met girl from okc
says shes a squirter
meet at 11pm at night in a park (i cant believe she met me honestly)
way fatter than in pics
i start to finger her to see what squirting is all about (never been with one)
she doesnt even have underwear on
shes cums and my hand gets flooded with liquid, kind of gross honestly
we go our separate ways
she texts me a bunch 'how it felt so good'
then tells me she is going to tell her bf (wtf!?) who asked her to marry him after he gets back from army training thats its over
I never text or respond to her again

Disgusting af that this sloot has some army guy who wants to MARRY HER and she is getting fingered by some guy within an hour. To be clear I did not know anything about this relationship until she dropped it on me.

SLOOTS GON SLOOT BROS

11 pm at a park? I'm surprised it didn't turn out to be some dude with a gun

[US_Ranger]

Lunch date lined up for 10/15/16

-Girl calls me driving back from work 2 days ago to set up lunch date for Saturday before she goes to work
-We chat a bit over the last couple days but we're both really busy
-I text her this morning about when/where we're going to meet for lunch

*conversation*

Her: I work today
Me: Yeah, but you told me we would get lunch today before work.
Her: When?
Me: 2 days ago. You called me when you were driving home.
Her: I did?
Me: Yes.
Her: OMG, I have such a terrible memory. Haha.
Me: ......

So that one ended before it started luckily. She's 36 and single and while we were chatting she said she doesn't understand why any relationships haven't worked out for her in the last 5 years.

Yeah, I don't know.....

[sword_]

Per US_Ranger's suggestion

A little preview of my weekend trip in Moab...



"Life is a journey, not a destination" - Ralph Waldo Emerson.

Just a lil motivation for the thread.

[saligia]

Lunch date lined up for 10/15/16

-Girl calls me driving back from work 2 days ago to set up lunch date for Saturday before she goes to work
-We chat a bit over the last couple days but we're both really busy
-I text her this morning about when/where we're going to meet for lunch

*conversation*

Her: I work today
Me: Yeah, but you told me we would get lunch today before work.
Her: When?
Me: 2 days ago. You called me when you were driving home.
Her: I did?
Me: Yes.
Her: OMG, I have such a terrible memory. Haha.
Me: ......

So that one ended before it started luckily. She's 36 and single and while we were chatting she said she doesn't understand why any relationships haven't worked out for her in the last 5 years.

Yeah, I don't know.....

Cut yourself some slack. An overwhelming percentage of California's a bloody cesspool.

[KMadigan777]

11 pm at a park? I'm surprised it didn't turn out to be some dude with a gun

Hha me too, I kept my truck engine going until I saw it was only 1 girl that got out.

[US_Ranger]

Sigh.....

10/15/16 DATE 2 for the day


-Met this girl awhile back, we went on a date, she was nice, nothing spectacular on the date (lunch date) but we got along well enough
-We talk for awhile, she works all over the state so she's always in/out of town
-She tells me she's going to be about an hour from me at some bbq and she wants me to be her date
-I cancel my plans (luckily earlier lunch date didn't work out) and agree that I'll head her way around 7 pm western standard time. She'll have already been there a little bit. This is earlier today that I agree to it
-I drive up to said town a little early to see some friends since I'm going up for the date anyway.
-I text her about where I should go (numerous times starting around 5 pm)
-No answer
-7:30 pm rolls around, I head home
-She texts me after I get home saying she had no signal and that she's still up there if I want to hang out
-I don't even bother telling her I already drove an hour home. In fact, I don't text her anything.
-Delete number


0/2 in one day. Lmao.

And before someone says "Well maybe she had no signal and she's telling the truth..."

1) If someone is going to drive an hour to come see you, have your **** together

2) If your brain cell count is above 5, you'd probably realize as time rolls near that you haven't heard from the person so maybe you'd figure out a way to contact them if you actually gave a ****

3) Don't add insult to injury saying you're still up to hang out knowing the person lives an hour away



Christ almighty.....I'm really attracting the winners lately.

[Thebunz]

Good call on the NC. No signal but she's texting you from said location? Better this way, save your genes for something with more brains.

[HangerBaby]

Lmao wow I would be livid if some girl texted me 30 mins after the fact and was like "sry no signal". Phuck that ****.

Such bad luck OP, I hope it looks up soon. You seem like a cool dude. Just in a slump.

It's probably because you live in CA or something...

[azakdan2682]

Sigh.....

10/15/16 DATE 2 for the day


-Met this girl awhile back, we went on a date, she was nice, nothing spectacular on the date (lunch date) but we got along well enough
-We talk for awhile, she works all over the state so she's always in/out of town
-She tells me she's going to be about an hour from me at some bbq and she wants me to be her date
-I cancel my plans (luckily earlier lunch date didn't work out) and agree that I'll head her way around 7 pm western standard time. She'll have already been there a little bit. This is earlier today that I agree to it
-I drive up to said town a little early to see some friends since I'm going up for the date anyway.
-I text her about where I should go (numerous times starting around 5 pm)
-No answer
-7:30 pm rolls around, I head home
-She texts me after I get home saying she had no signal and that she's still up there if I want to hang out
-I don't even bother telling her I already drove an hour home. In fact, I don't text her anything.
-Delete number


0/2 in one day. Lmao.

And before someone says "Well maybe she had no signal and she's telling the truth..."

1) If someone is going to drive an hour to come see you, have your **** together

2) If your brain cell count is above 5, you'd probably realize as time rolls near that you haven't heard from the person so maybe you'd figure out a way to contact them if you actually gave a ****

3) Don't add insult to injury saying you're still up to hang out knowing the person lives an hour away



Christ almighty.....I'm really attracting the winners lately.

I am guessing you are not all that attractive. Women don't flake that much with guys they are attracted to. I have had it happen. Short plus balding doesn't help me much...face and body is nice, but those two things kill me. Looks are all that matter these days.

[FAPhaggot]

Per US_Ranger's suggestion

A little preview of my weekend trip in Moab...



"Life is a journey, not a destination" - Ralph Waldo Emerson.

Just a lil motivation for the thread.

That high desert looks a lot like home. You going motorbiking there?

[US_Ranger]

I am guessing you are not all that attractive. Women don't flake that much with guys they are attracted to. I have had it happen. Short plus balding doesn't help me much...face and body is nice, but those two things kill me. Looks are all that matter these days.

If you're going to go FA status, go to a different thread. You can bash me all you want, don't really care. If it's objectively useful then I'll listen but you're just bringing your own negativity in here.

I've dated some very attractive women in my time. Very attractive. One was a 9/10 model who gets paid hundreds of dollars to sit by a pool for a couple hours because guys see her and flood in to the place. I've dated women who were designers for famous brands and show them in magazines, I've dated athletes that turn heads in the gym and the last girl I dated (before she moved) also was a model. So to answer your non-question, I'm attractive enough to go on a date with a 5-6/10. I'm also attractive enough to go on a date with a 36 year old single woman who can't figure out why she's not able to hold down a solid relationship.

What I think it boils down to (among a million other things) is:

1) The inability for people (women in this case) to take a hard look at themselves and realize they also have to make improvements in their life. This is where I blame men since men ALWAYS make excuses for crappy women.

2) The inability for people to apologize and say "Hey I fcked up, give me another chance"

3) Too many options


But like I said, there are a million facets to this. I'm just pointing out the 3 main ones I find that screw everything up. Before the "too many options" part, I think a lot of women would probably try and make something work but now they can just say "Eh, fck it, who cares I'll find another" and just move on. For instance, the first failed date today could have EASILY just said "Hey I'm sorry I forgot I set up a date, let me make it up to you" but that would require .03 seconds of introspection. Instead she can just hop on her phone and text "hi" to 50 people and get 10 dtf requests in a couple minutes.

And as I pointed out in another thread before, one of the best looking guys I know (6'1, jacked, model looking face...no homo, traveled the world, 23) gets ghosted by women too. And this is a guy that turns heads wherever he goes. Even he deals with the same ****. We were joking about it the last time we were hanging out. Something is seriously wrong in the dating pool and although I always subscribe to the self-blame and self-improvement camp, I'm really starting to think it has nothing to do with me and everything to do with mentally unstable women.

[azakdan2682]

If you're going to go FA status, go to a different thread. You can bash me all you want, don't really care. If it's objectively useful then I'll listen but you're just bringing your own negativity in here.

I've dated some very attractive women in my time. Very attractive. One was a 9/10 model who gets paid hundreds of dollars to sit by a pool for a couple hours because guys see her and flood in to the place. I've dated women who were designers for famous brands and show them in magazines, I've dated athletes that turn heads in the gym and the last girl I dated (before she moved) also was a model. So to answer your non-question, I'm attractive enough to go on a date with a 5-6/10. I'm also attractive enough to go on a date with a 36 year old single woman who can't figure out why she's not able to hold down a solid relationship.

What I think it boils down to (among a million other things) is:

1) The inability for people (women in this case) to take a hard look at themselves and realize they also have to make improvements in their life. This is where I blame men since men ALWAYS make excuses for crappy women.

2) The inability for people to apologize and say "Hey I fcked up, give me another chance"

3) Too many options


But like I said, there are a million facets to this. I'm just pointing out the 3 main ones I find that screw everything up. Before the "too many options" part, I think a lot of women would probably try and make something work but now they can just say "Eh, fck it, who cares I'll find another" and just move on. For instance, the first failed date today could have EASILY just said "Hey I'm sorry I forgot I set up a date, let me make it up to you" but that would require .03 seconds of introspection. Instead she can just hop on her phone and text "hi" to 50 people and get 10 dtf requests in a couple minutes.

And as I pointed out in another thread before, one of the best looking guys I know (6'1, jacked, model looking face...no homo, traveled the world, 23) gets ghosted by women too. And this is a guy that turns heads wherever he goes. Even he deals with the same ****. We were joking about it the last time we were hanging out. Something is seriously wrong in the dating pool and although I always subscribe to the self-blame and self-improvement camp, I'm really starting to think it has nothing to do with me and everything to do with mentally unstable women.

Ok, I always just blame my looks because when I was younger and in that top tier of good looks despite being short I literally had to do nothing and women chased me. It is a different story now. I am not ugly, I am just not in the class now where I don't have to do anything. I never got flaked on and women would always put forth the effort, it probably has made me worse now with women because I am not use to rejection or having to put forth the effort. I agree that the modern dating scene is just chit, especially here in America. When I was in Germany, women were just leagues better in the way they treated men and they we are all way better looking. 5/10 American women think she is hot chit. When I went out in Germany, I never had a single women try to get me to buy her drinks, when I came back to America it was like a slap in the face to how awful the women are here.

[BigPoppaPumpin]

Great log!


Two things pop out to me: 1) you invest too much too early, 2) you're too serious


Buying her a bottle of wine for a first date, driving 2 hours to see someone who might not show, making excuses why borderline women are dating material... that's the stuff of chumps. I know you're in a slump, and slumps bring the worst of all of us, but all this stinks of a tryhard. Even if that's not what you are, your behavior tells a different story, and that scares off women.


A girl on a date tells you she's miserable at work and you start talking about places to apply to? And then you send her job links when you get home? Is this real life? You're way too serious. When girls tell you their problems, they're not usually looking for answers. They're looking for a pair of ears. She tells you she's miserable at work, you're supposed to say "Aww that sucks. I remember I had this terrible job in high school." Or "Aww that sucks. You're boss is such a jerk." You're not supposed to act like her job advisor.

More about being too serious, why would ever ask a girl why she rejected you? That shows you're not confident in yourself, and it shows that you treat dates like a job interviews. Both qualities are no bueno.

Girls go on dates to escape reality. They want to forget about their **** jobs, the kid at home, and the upcoming phone bill. They don't want the tryhard who is super serious all the time.



At least in the early stages of dating, you should be more aloof, disinterested, text them less, maybe make them drive to you every once in a while. And on the dates, you should turn off your brain for the most part. The girls are looking for a good time, not for solutions to their life problems.

[anonymous]

these are hilarious, and remind me why I wouldn't want to be single again but I do feel bad for you reading them.

I don't think anyone else needs to tell you this, but given the caliber of women you're getting, you're just trying too hard. None of these women sound like anything but losers so making any kind of effort for them is going to backfire

Whenever I made an effort with a random it always ended badly, but cancelling on them or making them drive to me, or telling them dinner's on them always worked. Better still if you have another girl or two call you when you're on the date or a waitress flirt with you - dumb superficial stuff that makes their tiny minds excited because sadly many women, especially the ones on dating sites, are very child like and that's the way it goes with 90% of them.

Hope it turns around for you and you find a functional adult to spend an evening with

[sword_]

That high desert looks a lot like home. You going motorbiking there?

I did not! But I did drive the sh*t out of my rental Chevy SUV on these roads

Actually just got to my hotel after hanging out with this girl for two hours. I pass by this ice cream shop in Moab around 10:00 and walk by this girl she smirks and smiles at me. I decide to get some ice cream. I'm in line and there's this group of eight there. I start chatting them up and I saw her turn around once or twice. She ends up ordering and walks off. I see her walk and sit down.

The group of eight order, I order. I ended up walking to her and making small talk with her. Find out that she's traveling alone. She works in IT too. She's 26. Traveled a lot. I have some good conversations with her. Mostly about traveling and passions.

I got her number and contact info and told her that when she is back in Tennessee (she's originally from Michigan but works out of TN) that she will have to take me kayaking. We will see... at the least I made a new friend and I actually did cold approach lmao. BTW my phone is broke because it got bricked so I didn't try and get her digits srs.

[/KJ]

Sigh.....

10/15/16 DATE 2 for the day


-Met this girl awhile back, we went on a date, she was nice, nothing spectacular on the date (lunch date) but we got along well enough
-We talk for awhile, she works all over the state so she's always in/out of town
-She tells me she's going to be about an hour from me at some bbq and she wants me to be her date
-I cancel my plans (luckily earlier lunch date didn't work out) and agree that I'll head her way around 7 pm western standard time. She'll have already been there a little bit. This is earlier today that I agree to it
-I drive up to said town a little early to see some friends since I'm going up for the date anyway.
-I text her about where I should go (numerous times starting around 5 pm)
-No answer
-7:30 pm rolls around, I head home
-She texts me after I get home saying she had no signal and that she's still up there if I want to hang out
-I don't even bother telling her I already drove an hour home. In fact, I don't text her anything.
-Delete number

My god, ranger, WTF at these girls behaviour. I guess it's the right thing to just ghost and move on immediately to better things in your life, but I would've raged so hard and called her out as the brat she was. Have these girls no etiquette or situational awareness at all?? Someone need to educate them, since it's clear they have NO working brains for associating with other people besides their followers on their ****ty instagram feed.

More power to ya, but dating in 2016 is REALLY a losing train weck. Holy Fuk.

[US_Ranger]

Great log!


Two things pop out to me: 1) you invest too much too early, 2) you're too serious


Buying her a bottle of wine for a first date, driving 2 hours to see someone who might not show, making excuses why borderline women are dating material... that's the stuff of chumps. I know you're in a slump, and slumps bring the worst of all of us, but all this stinks of a tryhard. Even if that's not what you are, your behavior tells a different story, and that scares off women.


A girl on a date tells you she's miserable at work and you start talking about places to apply to? And then you send her job links when you get home? Is this real life? You're way too serious. When girls tell you their problems, they're not usually looking for answers. They're looking for a pair of ears. She tells you she's miserable at work, you're supposed to say "Aww that sucks. I remember I had this terrible job in high school." Or "Aww that sucks. You're boss is such a jerk." You're not supposed to act like her job advisor.

More about being too serious, why would ever ask a girl why she rejected you? That shows you're not confident in yourself, and it shows that you treat dates like a job interviews. Both qualities are no bueno.

Girls go on dates to escape reality. They want to forget about their **** jobs, the kid at home, and the upcoming phone bill. They don't want the tryhard who is super serious all the time.



At least in the early stages of dating, you should be more aloof, disinterested, text them less, maybe make them drive to you every once in a while. And on the dates, you should turn off your brain for the most part. The girls are looking for a good time, not for solutions to their life problems.

You're 100% right. I often make the mistake of thinking people are being honest with me. It's a bad habit. When someone tells me 50 times during a date how much they hate their job and how miserable they are with it, I actually believe them and then want to be captain-save-a-ho and help out. Little did I know that her telling me she hates her job and wants out means she doesn't hate her job and wants to stay. Stupid me.

The one I bought the bottle of wine for before the date was one I ended up dating for 5 months. She was absolutely amazing and we got along great.

As far as driving multiple distances, you're right again. I once again forget that talking to someone for 2-3 weeks (daily) doesn't mean anything and that they haven't even invested enough time into it to be considered a human being. I wouldn't ghost someone after driving two hours if I didn't like them. Hell, if I really disliked the person, I would still make an effort. I need to stop thinking from my own point of view on this and realize no one gives a fck about anyone else.

Good call though, all your advice is noted. I appreciate it.

these are hilarious, and remind me why I wouldn't want to be single again but I do feel bad for you reading them.

I don't think anyone else needs to tell you this, but given the caliber of women you're getting, you're just trying too hard. None of these women sound like anything but losers so making any kind of effort for them is going to backfire

Whenever I made an effort with a random it always ended badly, but cancelling on them or making them drive to me, or telling them dinner's on them always worked. Better still if you have another girl or two call you when you're on the date or a waitress flirt with you - dumb superficial stuff that makes their tiny minds excited because sadly many women, especially the ones on dating sites, are very child like and that's the way it goes with 90% of them.

Hope it turns around for you and you find a functional adult to spend an evening with

Most of the women here are from dating sites, some are from real life meetups though. The bartender I briefly mentioned in the first post was real life. Another one or two as well, including the most recent one who just fcked me over for the bbq date. Lmao.

High quality women here.

I did not! But I did drive the sh*t out of my rental Chevy SUV on these roads

Actually just got to my hotel after hanging out with this girl for two hours. I pass by this ice cream shop in Moab around 10:00 and walk by this girl she smirks and smiles at me. I decide to get some ice cream. I'm in line and there's this group of eight there. I start chatting them up and I saw her turn around once or twice. She ends up ordering and walks off. I see her walk and sit down.

The group of eight order, I order. I ended up walking to her and making small talk with her. Find out that she's traveling alone. She works in IT too. She's 26. Traveled a lot. I have some good conversations with her. Mostly about traveling and passions.

I got her number and contact info and told her that when she is back in Tennessee (she's originally from Michigan but works out of TN) that she will have to take me kayaking. We will see... at the least I made a new friend and I actually did cold approach lmao. BTW my phone is broke because it got bricked so I didn't try and get her digits srs.

SWORD, MY MAN.

Killing the game out there while on vacation. Sounds like you're having a good time, once you're back home and off the road, hit me up and tell me about it. (big test monday so not then)

My god, ranger, WTF at these girls behaviour. I guess it's the right thing to just ghost and move on immediately to better things in your life, but I would've raged so hard and called her out as the brat she was. Have these girls no etiquette or situational awareness at all?? Someone need to educate them, since it's clear they have NO working brains for associating with other people besides their followers on their ****ty instagram feed.

More power to ya, but dating in 2016 is REALLY a losing train weck. Holy Fuk.

This is the conundrum I always have when these situations happen and they happen A LOT.

My first reaction is go to army ranger mode and straight up tell them what a piece of **** they are. Ok, not going to do that.

Then I think I should explain to them like a child how it's rude to completely screw someone over. Ok, not going to do that.

Then I just think I should send a simple one word response and be cold. But that's also childish so not going to do that.

So I just don't say anything.

Example of why I just resort to not saying anything:

TWO MONTHS AGO:

-I'm out of state traveling to see a friend
-A girl I know in same city as him hits me up. (she's a model)
-Tells me she wants to see me, she really likes me, etc etc. Even tells the friend I know that she wants to date me. (sweet)
-I show up to see him, we're hanging out
-She shows up........with her ex-boyfriend
-Awkward as fck, I bounce

LAST WEEK:

-I get a text from same model saying she apologizes for the "miscommunication" on what was going on and that she didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, etc etc
-Despite my previous statement of usually just ignoring these things, I tell her I'm pissed off and that it's not a miscommunication, she needs to grow the fck up, etc.
-She sends some 20 page response, most of it justifying why she did/does what she does
-She's also back together with said ex-bf now
-I ignore and move on



So, as I stated, when I do confront women like this, all that ends up happening is circular logic and self-justification of why they do horrible things to people. What NORMAL human being would tell some guy how they can't wait to see him and then show up with their ex-bf? The answer is zero. When it happened in this case, the follow up would be an apology and saying "hey, I fcked up, I'm really sorry" and NOT "Sorry for the miscommunication" crap.

It's just impossible to get through to people like this and it's impossible to argue so there's no point in raging. All they do is now tell their friends that they met some psycho guy and they all laugh at you. If you try to educate them on being a human being, they tell their friends they met some loser guy and they all laugh at you. It's just not worth the effort.

[sword_]

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[SwimLiftRunGrl]

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That is a beautiful place. Is this in Texas? Going to have to go there when I visit my bro in Texas.

[NitrogenWidget]

You're 100% right. I often make the mistake of thinking people are being honest with me. It's a bad habit. When someone tells me 50 times during a date how much they hate their job and how miserable they are with it, I actually believe them and then want to be captain-save-a-ho and help out. Little did I know that her telling me she hates her job and wants out means she doesn't hate her job and wants to stay. Stupid me.

The one I bought the bottle of wine for before the date was one I ended up dating for 5 months. She was absolutely amazing and we got along great.

As far as driving multiple distances, you're right again. I once again forget that talking to someone for 2-3 weeks (daily) doesn't mean anything and that they haven't even invested enough time into it to be considered a human being. I wouldn't ghost someone after driving two hours if I didn't like them. Hell, if I really disliked the person, I would still make an effort. I need to stop thinking from my own point of view on this and realize no one gives a fck about anyone else.

Good call though, all your advice is noted. I appreciate it.



Most of the women here are from dating sites, some are from real life meetups though. The bartender I briefly mentioned in the first post was real life. Another one or two as well, including the most recent one who just fcked me over for the bbq date. Lmao.

High quality women here.



SWORD, MY MAN.

Killing the game out there while on vacation. Sounds like you're having a good time, once you're back home and off the road, hit me up and tell me about it. (big test monday so not then)



This is the conundrum I always have when these situations happen and they happen A LOT.

My first reaction is go to army ranger mode and straight up tell them what a piece of **** they are. Ok, not going to do that.

Then I think I should explain to them like a child how it's rude to completely screw someone over. Ok, not going to do that.

Then I just think I should send a simple one word response and be cold. But that's also childish so not going to do that.

So I just don't say anything.

Example of why I just resort to not saying anything:

TWO MONTHS AGO:

-I'm out of state traveling to see a friend
-A girl I know in same city as him hits me up. (she's a model)
-Tells me she wants to see me, she really likes me, etc etc. Even tells the friend I know that she wants to date me. (sweet)
-I show up to see him, we're hanging out
-She shows up........with her ex-boyfriend
-Awkward as fck, I bounce

LAST WEEK:

-I get a text from same model saying she apologizes for the "miscommunication" on what was going on and that she didn't want to hurt anyone's feelings, etc etc
-Despite my previous statement of usually just ignoring these things, I tell her I'm pissed off and that it's not a miscommunication, she needs to grow the fck up, etc.
-She sends some 20 page response, most of it justifying why she did/does what she does
-She's also back together with said ex-bf now
-I ignore and move on



So, as I stated, when I do confront women like this, all that ends up happening is circular logic and self-justification of why they do horrible things to people. What NORMAL human being would tell some guy how they can't wait to see him and then show up with their ex-bf? The answer is zero. When it happened in this case, the follow up would be an apology and saying "hey, I fcked up, I'm really sorry" and NOT "Sorry for the miscommunication" crap.

It's just impossible to get through to people like this and it's impossible to argue so there's no point in raging. All they do is now tell their friends that they met some psycho guy and they all laugh at you. If you try to educate them on being a human being, they tell their friends they met some loser guy and they all laugh at you. It's just not worth the effort.

agree 100% on this.
Telling them off is useless.
have seen women friends do chit like this to guys they meet and know and when the guy tells them off after they give him a lame excuse they call him a "creep".
However, I have known these women for yrs.
I provide more value to them than vice versa and they know it.
they will never flake on plans to hang out or disrespect me because they know im not one of their orbiters desperate to get in their pants and can in fact live without them.

So when I give them a mouthful on their chit behavior they KNOW they can't call me a creep or throw it back or cut me off.
blows my mind how they just stare at me unable to say a damn thing when i ask them how they think that type of behavior isn't selfish, childish, or just plain poor manners.

usually in situations when the woman blows me off or "miscommunications" i ignore.
if she keeps bugging me i give her a message telling her that her behavior is a massive turn-off and she should lose my number.
It seems when you reject a woman like that, they come back months later and you can bang easy.
don't know why either..

I've gone off the sites.
The last 3 bailed on me hrs before the date. no biggie. i made those plans during the week so if they bailed it didn't matter.
I also love it when i ask for a number and they counter with wanting my number instead.
i just ignore them after that.
c'mon.

it's fall.
I'm going to concentrate on dropping 40lbs and remodeling my kitchen and upstairs bathroom.
Really no time or desire to date.
Got a few old FWB's i can probably hit up a few times a month to keep me sane.

[US_Ranger]

So when I give them a mouthful on their chit behavior they KNOW they can't call me a creep or throw it back or cut me off.
blows my mind how they just stare at me unable to say a damn thing when i ask them how they think that type of behavior isn't selfish, childish, or just plain poor manners.

Too much real life.

The girl I just took to trivia night who was aghast at how I would dare take her on a date where I had friends around (it's fcking trivia night) did the same thing.

After I said "You told me you WANTED to go to trivia night" after the exchange, there was no answer. Go figure. There's no way out of that hole, you can't just say "Well, I told you I wanted to go but I didn't really want to go" so instead they just stop talking to you. Getting called out on childish behavior accomplishes a whole lot of nothing because, exactly how you said, women will just call you a creep and move on.

We live in a society where no one faces any sort of consequences for being a piece of ****. It's sad.

[sword_]

That is a beautiful place. Is this in Texas? Going to have to go there when I visit my bro in Texas.

k

Moab UT

[Mr Beer]

So, as I stated, when I do confront women like this, all that ends up happening is circular logic and self-justification of why they do horrible things to people. What NORMAL human being would tell some guy how they can't wait to see him and then show up with their ex-bf? The answer is zero. When it happened in this case, the follow up would be an apology and saying "hey, I fcked up, I'm really sorry" and NOT "Sorry for the miscommunication" crap.

It's just impossible to get through to people like this and it's impossible to argue so there's no point in raging. All they do is now tell their friends that they met some psycho guy and they all laugh at you. If you try to educate them on being a human being, they tell their friends they met some loser guy and they all laugh at you. It's just not worth the effort.

The way I see it, it's not my responsibility to educate some spoiled manchild or womankid or whatever you want to call them on how to be a normal rational adult. I don't have the time or the energy, instead of I will just cut them out of my life and save the angst.

You know how people have 'friends' they don't really like? Yeah, not me.

Anyway, this thread makes me glad I'm married and not going through this this fukking minefield just to try meet someone who isn't a piece of ****.

[otakutrevan]

Can anyone post or is this just for op?

[mTOR]

Can anyone post or is this just for op?

let's hear it