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    Thanks! But I don't think I take advantage of the "push" though, like I have to muscle it up once the momentum stops, you know? And you know that Wade.... always "PR by 5" LOL
    I'm not sure I do either, timing is hard with the push press. I'd love to be tighter too, but that applies to all lifts.

    yeah...still trying to figure out how to handle that. sounds so simple, but somehow it doesn't end up being.
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    Hi Tina! Man, I need to catch up on here, looks like I've missed a lot of strong lifting!

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    I was sitting for the last 8 days, my hips are pretty painful now.
    Ugh, sitting a lot kills my body, too. Hips, back, legs, everything Hope it eases off for you soon!
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    Originally Posted by tina722 View Post
    I'm not sure I do either, timing is hard with the push press. I'd love to be tighter too, but that applies to all lifts.

    yeah...still trying to figure out how to handle that. sounds so simple, but somehow it doesn't end up being.
    Hear, hear, girl!

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    Ugh, sitting a lot kills my body, too. Hips, back, legs, everything Hope it eases off for you soon!
    I need to figure out more ways to stand in my office for sure!
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    Does anyone get depth on wide squats???
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    Originally Posted by penny0527 View Post
    Does anyone get depth on wide squats???
    I thought I did better on wide than close in the beginning, but these days wide fuks with my hip
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    Originally Posted by itsagoodday View Post
    Hi Tina! Man, I need to catch up on here, looks like I've missed a lot of strong lifting!



    Ugh, sitting a lot kills my body, too. Hips, back, legs, everything Hope it eases off for you soon!
    Originally Posted by anandagirl View Post
    Hear, hear, girl!

    I need to figure out more ways to stand in my office for sure!
    On top of not standing/walking around during the day, I realize (for various reasons) I haven't had to walk into work much over the last month. Normally I have a 25min walk, which may be more beneficial than I had realized.

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    Does anyone get depth on wide squats???
    Originally Posted by anandagirl View Post
    I thought I did better on wide than close in the beginning, but these days wide fuks with my hip
    I'm going to assume no, because that makes me feel better lol.

    I think I remember seeing someone put flat shoes on for the wides. It is something I 'm consider doing.
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    I'm about halfway through my diet 137/8ish down to 133.2 in a month. It's been pretty easy, especially with the traveling. I have 5 weeks until I travel again, but that will probably be the stopping point. Maybe another 2-3 pounds down.

    I have some thoughts about changing up my eating strategy afterwards too. Normally I just move into a bulk/maintenance for 8ish months and put on about 10lbs, then diet for a few months to get rid of the fat. Since I now know I can commit to more intense gaining for shorter periods, I thought I would try cycles of 8-ish weeks with more focus and a few weeks break. Not really diet in between, but at least give me a mental break and digestive break lol. I think* I really want to sit comfortably around 140 with gaining going up from there.


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    Originally Posted by tina722 View Post
    I'm about halfway through my diet 137/8ish down to 133.2 in a month. It's been pretty easy, especially with the traveling. I have 5 weeks until I travel again, but that will probably be the stopping point. Maybe another 2-3 pounds down.

    I have some thoughts about changing up my eating strategy afterwards too. Normally I just move into a bulk/maintenance for 8ish months and put on about 10lbs, then diet for a few months to get rid of the fat. Since I now know I can commit to more intense gaining for shorter periods, I thought I would try cycles of 8-ish weeks with more focus and a few weeks break. Not really diet in between, but at least give me a mental break and digestive break lol. I think* I really want to sit comfortably around 140 with gaining going up from there.


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    Wow, congrats for losing while traveling. For whatever reason, traveling = eat everything you have ever wanted. Maybe because we cook at home so much and don't have access to a lot of restaurants/types of cuisine unless we're out of town
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    Originally Posted by tina722 View Post
    I'm about halfway through my diet 137/8ish down to 133.2 in a month. It's been pretty easy, especially with the traveling. I have 5 weeks until I travel again, but that will probably be the stopping point. Maybe another 2-3 pounds down.

    I have some thoughts about changing up my eating strategy afterwards too. Normally I just move into a bulk/maintenance for 8ish months and put on about 10lbs, then diet for a few months to get rid of the fat. Since I now know I can commit to more intense gaining for shorter periods, I thought I would try cycles of 8-ish weeks with more focus and a few weeks break. Not really diet in between, but at least give me a mental break and digestive break lol. I think* I really want to sit comfortably around 140 with gaining going up from there.


    *I reserve the right to ignore this statement in the future
    It seems like the popular thought on the womens' forums here is that bulks should be really slow and last 9 months or more. Personally there's no way I can make that schedule work for me. I really like your idea of 8-week diet blocks. It's totally natural (and feels good) to train with 8 week blocks, so why not match the diet?

    I think I will do that after my meet, once I start doing serious training again. Like, 8 weeks hypertrophy coupled with 8 weeks bulk (probably +250 cal/day, if I start tracking again), then I'll do a 6 week strength phase at maintenance or slight cut (maybe -200-300 cal), then probably repeat. But I really do want to get (visible) abs at some point, so maybe I need to do an 8 week cut first! Haha
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    Originally Posted by tina722 View Post
    I'm going to assume no, because that makes me feel better lol.

    I think I remember seeing someone put flat shoes on for the wides. It is something I 'm consider doing.
    My old (retired) squat form had a wider stance, required that I sit back more, and also required that I squat with no shoes / just my socks on. I had no issues with depth squatting like that. Adding oly shoes would screw me up big time though. Actually adding any shoes would screw me up big time, so I don't know what to say about that lol.

    My current squat is completely different and absolutely requires oly shoes, I can't squat without them. Go figure.
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    I prefer a flatter shoe for wider stance. RDC gave me a pair of shoes roughly 12 years ago. I squat in them today. I have tried heeled shoes wider and it's just not good for me. For anything medium to close, I can use the heel and for oly and certain SM events, I can use them. The RDC shoe is slightly elevated, and I mean very slightly and, that's perfect for me. It is not uncommon, depending on the movement to have shoe changes during a session

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    AS for the bulking seasons and such. I have some opinions and experience and they don't usually align with all the cool things of today. It really comes down to the goal of the person and/or athlete and sometimes timeline. Everyone responds different and everyone deals with it differently. An example is Missy. When we met, we weren't dating nor was I coaching her, she asked me point blank what I thought she'd need to do to be her best and strongest. She weighed 153. My response was, "start eating and throw your scale way for a few months". She now weighs 175-180 and has cut easily to 165. She is much stronger, looks better and feels better. Now, how does all that relate? Some of the popular stuff, as mentioned, I see, is lunacy and is just going to drive a lifter or person crazy. Have a goal first and have a short term, medium term and long term goal and then evaluate what you are currently doing before you say, I'm going to cut this many calories etc. Know what youa re currently doing first then formulate a plan. I could go on but, I am more interested in others thoughts and experiences.
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    Wow, congrats for losing while traveling. For whatever reason, traveling = eat everything you have ever wanted. Maybe because we cook at home so much and don't have access to a lot of restaurants/types of cuisine unless we're out of town
    I would agree with that. Right now I cook dinner, but I have access to "food carts" for lunch which provide a lot of food for 6$ and offers everything from south american to ethiopian. FWIW, food is expensive out here, so 6$ is cheap for a meal. Variety and having someone else cook for you (me) is a treat!
    Also - it was travel for work, so coordinating eating with colleagues/conference schedule = less time to eat. but since I wasn't really working out, I had very little appetite = win all around?

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    It seems like the popular thought on the womens' forums here is that bulks should be really slow and last 9 months or more. Personally there's no way I can make that schedule work for me. I really like your idea of 8-week diet blocks. It's totally natural (and feels good) to train with 8 week blocks, so why not match the diet?

    I think I will do that after my meet, once I start doing serious training again. Like, 8 weeks hypertrophy coupled with 8 weeks bulk (probably +250 cal/day, if I start tracking again), then I'll do a 6 week strength phase at maintenance or slight cut (maybe -200-300 cal), then probably repeat. But I really do want to get (visible) abs at some point, so maybe I need to do an 8 week cut first! Haha

    Yea, that's kinda where I picked it up. Also - if my goal is strength/mass it felt like it was best to stay in calorie surplus the majority of the time. Not sure either of those happened this year :/

    I 'm pretty excited - it seems more maintainable. Overeating takes a lot of effort for me, more than dieting. In the past I've had trouble exiting the diet too (long, slow sorta transition to maintenance) - so I think this will be a good way to jump right in. I've also had some (more) mental shift over the last year or so about my size. I'm permanently small now.

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    My old (retired) squat form had a wider stance, required that I sit back more, and also required that I squat with no shoes / just my socks on. I had no issues with depth squatting like that. Adding oly shoes would screw me up big time though. Actually adding any shoes would screw me up big time, so I don't know what to say about that lol.

    My current squat is completely different and absolutely requires oly shoes, I can't squat without them. Go figure.
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    I prefer a flatter shoe for wider stance. RDC gave me a pair of shoes roughly 12 years ago. I squat in them today. I have tried heeled shoes wider and it's just not good for me. For anything medium to close, I can use the heel and for oly and certain SM events, I can use them. The RDC shoe is slightly elevated, and I mean very slightly and, that's perfect for me. It is not uncommon, depending on the movement to have shoe changes during a session

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    Guess I'll be trying the flat shoes.

    Missy looks great and I'm not at all surprised that moving up a weight class benefited her.

    So...I'm guessing you don't come to the female forum for diet information?!? I can see that - especially from a competitors perspective. And of course, I agree with making goals. I also think many (myself included) struggle with sticking it out until the goal is complete.

    I don't think I've set short term training goals in awhile. Unless they would be: get the training in, do what it says, stretch, do abs, stretch. lol. Long term goal is just to gain strength/mass - but that's not very specific. And I'm not sure what else they would be since I'm not interested in competing.

    Eating/weight goals are also usually long term/kinda vague (calorie surplus for most of the year, but I still only gain 10lbs), which is why I think the 8 week cycles will help. I also think setting a weight goal, for me, will help otherwise it's easy to stop eating because I'm full. Weight loss always happens in the summer - 1. too hot to eat 2. beach 3. this particular diet is because I'm traveling - this time is a vacation home.

    I also organize everything around work. eg. a slow month: I have a goal to spend more effort in the gym and vice versa. Although last year, I learned not to ever completely stop training. I stopped going for several weeks to get a manuscript out, because it was soooo hot, lol, in the end it was rejected within 5 days of submitting.

    Please do go on! lol. I like nutrition discussions.
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    Treadmill, mobility + abs to warmup, + hipcircle(not new, just remembering to write it down)

    FS to warm up
    Bar, 95, 115

    Pause
    115x3
    135x3
    150x3 (new3RM)

    Flat trap
    135, 185xsome
    225x3
    250x3 (new 3RM)

    DL
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    not a good day. stupid hips.
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    How tall is Missy?
    A lot taller than me :-/
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    Originally Posted by tina722 View Post
    Treadmill, mobility + abs to warmup, + hipcircle(not new, just remembering to write it down)

    FS to warm up
    Bar, 95, 115

    Pause
    115x3
    135x3
    150x3 (new3RM)

    Flat trap
    135, 185xsome
    225x3
    250x3 (new 3RM)

    DL
    260x1x4
    225x4

    Skipped chains because

    https://youtu.be/2ifwY4dmmqM


    not a good day. stupid hips.

    Congrats in 2 PR's!!

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    5' 9ish, maybe 10
    Originally Posted by tina722 View Post
    I would agree with that. Right now I cook dinner, but I have access to "food carts" for lunch which provide a lot of food for 6$ and offers everything from south american to ethiopian. FWIW, food is expensive out here, so 6$ is cheap for a meal. Variety and having someone else cook for you (me) is a treat!
    Also - it was travel for work, so coordinating eating with colleagues/conference schedule = less time to eat. but since I wasn't really working out, I had very little appetite = win all around?
    I'm so jealous! Not sure where you are, but food is expensive where I live as well. I work at a resort, so we get 50% off food, but that still makes it around $6 or more, and we have burgers and grill items, Mexican food, a salad bar, and sometimes a pizza and pasta bar. None of that is worth $6 to me. But ethnic food would be!!!! Because we don't have any. Except Mexican food, and I'm an honorary Mexican so I can make most of that.

    So...I'm guessing you don't come to the female forum for diet information?!? I can see that - especially from a competitors perspective. And of course, I agree with making goals. I also think many (myself included) struggle with sticking it out until the goal is complete.

    I don't think I've set short term training goals in awhile. Unless they would be: get the training in, do what it says, stretch, do abs, stretch. lol. Long term goal is just to gain strength/mass - but that's not very specific. And I'm not sure what else they would be since I'm not interested in competing.

    Eating/weight goals are also usually long term/kinda vague (calorie surplus for most of the year, but I still only gain 10lbs), which is why I think the 8 week cycles will help. I also think setting a weight goal, for me, will help otherwise it's easy to stop eating because I'm full. Weight loss always happens in the summer - 1. too hot to eat 2. beach 3. this particular diet is because I'm traveling - this time is a vacation home.

    I also organize everything around work. eg. a slow month: I have a goal to spend more effort in the gym and vice versa. Although last year, I learned not to ever completely stop training. I stopped going for several weeks to get a manuscript out, because it was soooo hot, lol, in the end it was rejected within 5 days of submitting.

    Please do go on! lol. I like nutrition discussions.
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    Originally Posted by penny0527 View Post
    Congrats in 2 PR's!!

    How do you like the flat trap deads?
    I guess that is true RE: two PRs. Deads were hard/painful so that was sorta my overall impression for the workout, ie bad. Not to mention I skipped chains, but I guess the first two exercises went well.

    hmmmm. flat trap. It's harder because I have to get lower - I find it hard to keep tight when I am down that low. BUT it's easier because the handle is thin and doesn't spin. For the raised side, the bar has fat handles and it spins (really odd, I have no idea why it's designed that way), and that makes it harder plus it seems to hurt my wrists more.

    Originally Posted by anandagirl View Post
    I'm so jealous! Not sure where you are, but food is expensive where I live as well. I work at a resort, so we get 50% off food, but that still makes it around $6 or more, and we have burgers and grill items, Mexican food, a salad bar, and sometimes a pizza and pasta bar. None of that is worth $6 to me. But ethnic food would be!!!! Because we don't have any. Except Mexican food, and I'm an honorary Mexican so I can make most of that.

    Me too!

    New Haven, CT - food probably wouldn't feel so expensive if it were better, but generally the restaurant option is pretty bad. I like our food carts and their food option is pretty awesome - it makes up for having to eat my cooking in the evening.

    We don't have any good Mexican My favorite. My mom's family is Hispanic (wish I could cook like her) and I spent 7 years in Texas, so that/tex-mex will always be a "go to" food if I can get it.
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    We don't have any good Mexican My favorite. My mom's family is Hispanic (wish I could cook like her) and I spent 7 years in Texas, so that/tex-mex will always be a "go to" food if I can get it.
    I'm a SoCal girl so most of our Mexican is either Sonoran or Baja style, and I LURVE both. Not into much tex mex tho
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