WELCOME BACK TO THE TEAM GAT QUESTION AND ANSWER THREAD
We have been wanting to jump start this again and will all the changes taking place with the brand, we thought it would be a great time to start.
This time around we are going to pick a topic and expand on it.
It might be something the Reps come up with or a Member topic, but you can be sure it will get interesting.
Between Corey and Extreme One we have a vast store of knowledge on the team and they can't wait to share it.
At the same time GAT is launching a bunch of NEW products, so I'll try to keep everyone as updated as I can on the product front...
Along the way I have a few GAT Products to give out, so follow along, contribute and not only will you have the opportunity to ask two of the most knowledgeable guys I know questions, but you also might win something too.
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09-26-2016, 04:55 PM #1
!!! Team gat new products & new q&a !!!
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Boom! Let's do this. Any form or tip related questions I might try to answer with a video response from the Young Performance Institute aka my garage. I don't have everything but I have enough that I can probably take care of the majority of those sort of questions.
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So first topic / question...
High Bar vs Low bar squatting... Is it more individual preference, or does the placement have any bearing on the movement ?
I've done both and landed on low bar squatting, mostly as I started squatting heavier, it just felt more stable for me. I didn't really notice any other differences, other than I don't feel like I'm leaning forward.
Interested in Corey and Kevin's thoughts
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Stim junkies! me, too
you worry me, sir.
indeed! I get so much knowledge from these two it's unreal. Has really paid dividends.
I know these are for Corey & EO, but if I may add a counterpoint to your preference, Greg. I always fall into high bar stance. Low bar felt unnatural and like it was going to roll off my back. I've never been a heavy squatter and don't plan on powerlifting. I used to lean forward and my lower back paid the price. I reduced the weight, focused on form and brought it back up, now I'm squatting better than ever - personal bests.
I like the new labelling. Will that be the style for all products?
Yes, that dog is pretty awesome. Bulldogs are better, but then again it wouldn't be German, huh?
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09-27-2016, 10:16 AM #18
I think you pretty much summed it up already. :-)
Out of all the guys that I have trained, it seems like the feedback was always the same; low bar for power/high bar for anything else. Some of them were powerlifters but most of them were just guys that wanted to be bigger and stronger (not what I would consider powerlifters). I also think they were just more comfortable with how they learned the movement and always practiced it, then again if they were training for meets and low bar does allow for a heavier load than that may also be the case.
I am personally more comfortable squatting high bar, probably because I have shorter legs. I would think taller guys with longer legs would prefer low bar because their knees more than likely bend past their toes.
So I would think individual preference, but I am curious to see what EO and Corey think as they are far more seasoned than myself.Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle...." - Psalms 144:1
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09-27-2016, 12:44 PM #21
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The difference between high and low bar is individual preference, but it also has a bearing on the movement. Low bar, as you mentioned, will require you to "lean" forward more when going to the hole. High bar forces you to keep a more upright back posture. Because of the difference, the primary muscles used are a little different. The muscle groups recruited are the same, but some are activated greater depending on the movement. Low bar will typically allow you to squat more as you're activating your glutes and hamstring more, whereas high bar is more quad.
I only do low bar for two reasons: I want to squat as much as possible and my flexibility sucks so high bar is more difficult to hit depth.New England Patriot
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09-27-2016, 01:02 PM #22
I may be wrong, but I think you have the 2 flip-flopped. High bar does require the more upright position, but it will also force you to lean forward. When the bar is lower the bar’s center of gravity is lower, which allows you to control it better.
I am kind of just thinking out loud hahaBlessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle...." - Psalms 144:1
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09-27-2016, 01:47 PM #24
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I believe low bar will typically force more forward lean. Why are you typically a little more upright for a high bar squat? Because the bars a little farther from your hips, so even though youre staying a bit more upright, youre having to overcome the same amount of hip torque as you would for a low bar squat.
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09-27-2016, 02:38 PM #25
Good point!
I wonder if the weight being slightly further down the back (low-bar) would force more drive down in to the hole naturally than a high bar. It seems like high bar tends to move the knees forward in front of the toes.
I think it is also probably subjective to an individual's build on whether they use more back strength than leg and vice versa.Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war and my fingers for battle...." - Psalms 144:1
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09-27-2016, 02:57 PM #26
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That's what I said, high bar requires a more upright position. Yes, you will have a little forward lean, but it's no where near that of a low bar squat. I can't post pictures because I'm at work, but imagine the barbell's path each rep. The bar has to stay over your heels during the motion. If you have it lower on your back, you have to lean forward more to keep it there, whereas high bar would require a more upright position to keep it over you heels. You can google "high bar vs low bar squat" and you'll see the imagine I'm referring to.
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09-27-2016, 03:21 PM #27
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09-27-2016, 04:09 PM #29
So I googled an image to show them both, because I'm with Brian and has always leaned or felt like I leaned more with a high bar squat... But maybe I'm doing it wrong, because almost all of them look like this.
Now, my chest is much further out and head up than what they show hear... and I squat a decent amount closing in on 500 ( or at least did ) so it's not that I'm using 135...
this might get interesting when the two experts jump in
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09-27-2016, 04:24 PM #30
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