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    New Study: " You DO NOT need to lift heavy weights to build muscle"

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    But who was mass? All their saying is do more reps with lighter sht instead.
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    At the end of the day its about muscle resistance and fatiguing ur muscles.....

    I for one never bought into the whole lift heavy crap, think its plot conspired by surgeon shills, in an attempt to get more people on their operating tables srs. Hell my orthopedic surgeon said that at least 70% of his patients were patients do to some sort of recreational weight lifting.
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    >2016
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    But feels goodman when people mire a twig lifting heavier than them
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    a 12 week study on muscle growth

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    I don't care, every single time I deadlift more I get this surge of energy, and a feeling like I could kill anybody with my bare hands, and then fly away into space.
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    The other group lifted heavier weights (between 75 and 90 percent of the maximum weight the people could lift) for eight to 12 repetitions per set
    so these "experienced lifters" lifted 90% of their 1rm for 8 reps? Hmmm either their 1rms were not calculated well or they were going beyond failure with help???

    Why do these articles never provide link to the actual study?? they say "just as effective" which means absolute shyt
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    building muscle requires properly targeting the intended muscle via mind muscle connection and focusing on the concentric and eccentric movement of the lift

    it's hard to properly stimulate a muscle if you're struggling to hit it for five or less reps because if something is that heavy your stronger muscles will kick in and help out

    heavy compounds are great for strength but they rarely lead to an aesthetically pleasing body if that's your goal. Isolation work is necessary for that
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    I have to agree, I feel like I build a stronger muscles doing half weight and more to failure than max weight for 5 reps.
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    But feels goodman when people mire a twig lifting heavier than them
    but at what cost
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    Originally Posted by y0lked View Post
    so these "experienced lifters" lifted 90% of their 1rm for 8 reps? Hmmm either their 1rms were not calculated well or they were going beyond failure with help???

    Why do these articles never provide link to the actual study?? they say "just as effective" which means absolute shyt
    this kinda stuff almost never seems like its done in real world situations, like they walk in, sit in some sort of contraption that measures how much force they can exert in 1 direction then they extrapolate all the data and call it a study

    probably has nothing to do with like, laying down and doing a barbell bench press or a freestanding barbell squat
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    I'll take a guess about the study

    Young adult males that never trained before or under 6 months.
    Horrible routines, including the heavy and light ones.
    Short program.
    Inconclusive findings, further research required.
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    Originally Posted by NameUnavailable View Post
    I'll take a guess about the study

    Young adult males that never trained before or under 6 months.
    Horrible routines, including the heavy and light ones.
    Short program.
    Inconclusive findings, further research required.
    b-b-b-but we measured 0.00000004% growth in these 12 weeks so we're gonna make wild assumptions about long-term weightlifting!
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    the control group was 8-12 reps. they probably used leg extensions as the test as well ayyy lmao
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    You don't need heavy weights to gain muscle if you've never lifted and haven't filled out your base muscular physique. Once you nail your newbie gains, you're going to need to up the iron or up the steroids to start seeing more growth.
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    Cliffs: click bait article, progressive overload still applies. Even if you did 100lbs squat for 50 reps you'll still need to increase the weight to reach fatigue once adaptations occur. So that 100lb in a years time is 200lb and 50x 200 is NO joke.

    This is some Ian McCarthy BS click bait
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    Dont shoot the messanger guys. Im just a lowly red trying to create a healthy discussion
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    Originally Posted by CoolKnees View Post
    >2016
    >Still ego lifting

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    medium/medium-heavy is the best. gtfo with studies...
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    This is new? I think several people who have achieved respectable physiques who put the heavy lifting aside for more moderate weight and better muscle contraction can attest to this. Progressive overload is great for sure, but it's one tool. Sufficient volume, good form, and moderate weight IMO is GOAT for muscle Hypertrophy. Sure programs like 5/3/1 can get you mass, but most likely not as optimally as a program designed purely for Hypertrophy will.
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    Originally Posted by y0lked View Post
    Why do these articles never provide link to the actual study?? they say "just as effective" which means absolute shyt
    Because if they include the study then they can't twist the stats to get the narrative that they want
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    Originally Posted by amikaelmorris View Post
    a 12 week study on muscle growth

    no thanks
    inb4 "4 untrained individuals were used in the study"

    Also, can't trust an article with a man that doesn't even slide his weights on properly.

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    Originally Posted by midcoastking33 View Post
    the control group was 8-12 reps. they probably used leg extensions as the test as well ayyy lmao
    They did, it was all machines except for barbell bench press. And guess which exercise showed the most improvement in 1RM?

    It was 3 sets to failure of 8-12 vs 20-25 reps. They did an excellent comparison of one shtty method with another. Full study here,

    http://jap.physiology.org/content/ja...1/129.full.pdf

    I corresponded with the lead authour, he has never done barbell work, read Starting Strength, 531, or even Arnold's encyclopedia of bodybuilding.

    But we don't need to know all that. Just go to your local globogym and try out a BodyPump class. Now visit a powerlifting or weightlifting gym. See which ones are big and strong.
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