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    Trump just keeps burying himself deeperr, accused of saying to shoot Hillary

    Because of his off the wall remark saying someone from the "Second Amendment" could do something to stop her....I mean really???

    This guy is just a glutton for punishment.....
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    well a guy created this thread The Official Ex-Trumper Thread

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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    well a guy created this thread The Official Ex-Trumper Thread

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    I seriously don't get him, it is like he is deliberately wanting to lose, there isn't any excuse for this dumb behavior, I just don't know what to think anymore...
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    Just means we mere mortals have more of a chance to become billionaires than we figured
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    Originally Posted by bodyhard View Post
    I seriously don't get him, it is like he is deliberately wanting to lose, there isn't any excuse for this dumb behavior, I just don't know what to think anymore...
    He probably meant for proponents to oppose Hillary's attempts to usurp yet another of our freedoms, but he sure as hell said it inartfully (and that is being generous). With the media scrutinizing his every move with an electron microscope, he can't afford to keep letting these kind of malapropisms fly.
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    Originally Posted by Oceanside View Post
    some will argue it's being taken out of context...

    but these passive/aggressive things he's been saying throughout this process is sort of b*tch-like...

    I wouldn't belly up to the bar with any dude who's too much of a b*tch to say outright what he means but instead drops weird little innuendos always with the option to say "I didn't mean it that way" !!
    I have to agree with you OS, either just man up and say what you mean and go down punching or stop it all together, these indirect's are getting tiring.
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    I don't think the guy wants to be the next POTUS.
    It wouldn't surprise me one bit that he is in bed with the Clinton's.
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    Originally Posted by so-tex View Post
    I don't think the guy wants to be the next POTUS.
    It wouldn't surprise me one bit that he is in bed with the Clinton's.
    Sometimes you gotta wonder.....
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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    Sometimes you gotta wonder.....
    That's an old conjecture, that obviously has no merit. Let's face it; the guy isn't a polished politician. I love it!
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    Maybe He's pointing out that the 2nd amendment is there for a reason. I mean he has not spoke much about the Constitution at all, other than the Judges he would select, compared to Hillary`s potential choices, if She gets that Opportunity were DONE ! and that in and of itself should make People to Vote for Trump

    Perhaps some have heard of it? the 2nd amendment : {The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution reads: "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."}....SHALL is a Pretty Important Word

    No one says a damn thing when she Pipes up about the 2nd : Hillary`s Quotes........... “And here again, the Supreme Court is wrong on the Second Amendment. And I am going to make that case every chance I get"

    I think again we’re way out of balance. We’ve got to rein in what has become almost an article of faith that almost anybody can have a gun anywhere at any time. And I don’t believe that is in the best interest of the vast majority of people.”

    We cannot let a minority of people—and that’s what it is, it is a minority of people—hold a viewpoint that terrorizes the majority of people.”

    “We’ve got to rein in what has become almost an article of faith that anybody can have a gun anywhere anytime.”



    As A Civil Law Abiding Citizen, Do we/I not have the Right ?




    And some Quotes from People Far Wiser than Both Hillary & Trump

    "A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined..."
    - George Washington, First Annual Address, to both House of Congress, January 8, 1790

    "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."
    - Thomas Jefferson, Virginia Constitution, Draft 1, 1776

    "To disarm the people...[i]s the most effectual way to enslave them."
    - George Mason, referencing advice given to the British Parliament by Pennsylvania governor Sir William Keith, The Debates in the Several State Conventions on the Adooption of the Federal Constitution, June 14, 1788

    "I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
    - George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

    "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops."
    - Noah Webster, An Examination of the Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, October 10, 1787


    "I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery."
    - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, January 30, 1787

    "What country can preserve its liberties if their rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance. Let them take arms."
    - Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, December 20, 1787

    "The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
    - Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

    "A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercises, I advise the gun. While this gives moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise and independence to the mind. Games played with the ball, and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be your constant companion of your walks." - Thomas Jefferson, letter to Peter Carr, August 19, 1785

    "The Constitution of most of our states (and of the United States) assert that all power is inherent in the people; that they may exercise it by themselves; that it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
    - Thomas Jefferson, letter to to John Cartwright, 5 June 1824

    "On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
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    Originally Posted by dbx View Post
    That's an old conjecture, that obviously has no merit. Let's face it; the guy isn't a polished politician. I love it!
    A good reason why he should choose his words more carefully......

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...mal-rules.html
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    Maybe he just meant winging her. Is that ok?
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    "The Right of the PEOPLE to keep and bear arms, SHALL not be infringed"


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    Originally Posted by Karl_Hungus View Post
    A good reason why he should choose his words more carefully......

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...mal-rules.html
    Yeah, but.....the sad part is, that even conservatives...who know media bias is horrifically against conservatives....are buying into the BS...just because it's blasted 24/7. IOW, it's working! Yes, we all know he says some chit he shouldn't, but face it, HC hasn't given an actual press conference in ...how many days? Yeah. I suppose she's smart enough NOT to subject herself to questions that would expose her, but it's more disappointing to me that people don't see that for what it is. She is TOTALLY inaccessible to the press. Smart on her part, because Americans are too stupid to even realize why she won't.
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    Maybe he just meant winging her. Is that ok?
    I'd plead the Cheney case....
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    Yeah, but.....the sad part is, that even conservatives...who know media bias is horrifically against conservatives....are buying into the BS...just because it's blasted 24/7. IOW, it's working! Yes, we all know he says some chit he shouldn't, but face it, HC hasn't given an actual press conference in ...how many days? Yeah. I suppose she's smart enough NOT to subject herself to questions that would expose her, but it's more disappointing to me that people don't see that for what it is. She is TOTALLY inaccessible to the press. Smart on her part, because Americans are too stupid to even realize why she won't.
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    Originally Posted by dbx View Post
    I'd plead the Cheney case....
    Officer: "why did you shoot Hillary in the face?"

    Suspect: "it was a hunting accident!"

    Officer: "in downtown Houston?"
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    Originally Posted by dbx View Post
    That's an old conjecture, that obviously has no merit. Let's face it; the guy isn't a polished politician. I love it!
    I wouldn"t be so sure about that Kevin.
    Go back 20-30 years and study up on the guy.
    He's been in the political arena on both sides of the isle.
    He reminds me of one of our towns leaders.
    He's never ran for office of any kind, but he owns some very valuable property, and has prospered.
    He supports candidates from both sides, and I can guarantee you he gets favors from them.
    It's the same with Trump.
    Just because he's never ran for political office doesn't give him a free pass.
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    Originally Posted by dj924s View Post
    This has always been a great scare-tactic. As far as the judiciary is concerned, they can't do anything with the 2nd amendment, it is settled law. The president can't do anything with it either. The only way a amendment can be added or changed is a three fourths majority vote in congress.
    This is why the left is so scary. They don't care about the constitution. When Hillary says she is going to get rid of guns, she is going to get rid of guns. Well, for law abiding citizens that is. That's why it is SOOOOOOOOO damn important to ALWAYS have a conservative majority in the Supreme Court, no matter what your political views are. Their job is to play by the rules, and that means the constitution. Liberal judges throw out what the constitution says, and they change law by their rulings. They say "well, the constitution is an old document. If the founding fathers were alive today, I'm sure they'd agree with what we are doing." Not cool.

    Giving a hopefully far fetched example of how liberal judges work...Hillary can give an executive order on day one that the 2nd amendment is null and void. All guns by private citizens are now illegal. People take it to court, and the Supreme Court rules in her favor that it's perfectly legal for a president to give an executive order to abolish the amendment. This is far fetched, but that's what happens when the Supreme Court has liberal judges. You simply don't know what's going to happen. They are not going to play by the rules, they are going to rule as if they are voting in congress. That is NOT the intent of the highest court in the land.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    This is why the left is so scary. They don't care about the constitution. When Hillary says she is going to get rid of guns, she is going to get rid of guns. Well, for law abiding citizens that is. That's why it is SOOOOOOOOO damn important to ALWAYS have a conservative majority in the Supreme Court, no matter what your political views are. Their job is to play by the rules, and that means the constitution. Liberal judges throw out what the constitution says, and they change law by their rulings. They say "well, the constitution is an old document. If the founding fathers were alive today, I'm sure they'd agree with what we are doing." Not cool.

    Giving a hopefully far fetched example of how liberal judges work...Hillary can give an executive order on day one that the 2nd amendment is null and void. All guns by private citizens are now illegal. People take it to court, and the Supreme Court rules in her favor that it's perfectly legal for a president to give an executive order to abolish the amendment. This is far fetched, but that's what happens when the Supreme Court has liberal judges. You simply don't know what's going to happen. They are not going to play by the rules, they are going to rule as if they are voting in congress. That is NOT the intent of the highest court in the land.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    This is why the left is so scary. They don't care about the constitution. When Hillary says she is going to get rid of guns, she is going to get rid of guns. Well, for law abiding citizens that is. That's why it is SOOOOOOOOO damn important to ALWAYS have a conservative majority in the Supreme Court, no matter what your political views are. Their job is to play by the rules, and that means the constitution. Liberal judges throw out what the constitution says, and they change law by their rulings. They say "well, the constitution is an old document. If the founding fathers were alive today, I'm sure they'd agree with what we are doing." Not cool.

    Giving a hopefully far fetched example of how liberal judges work...Hillary can give an executive order on day one that the 2nd amendment is null and void. All guns by private citizens are now illegal. People take it to court, and the Supreme Court rules in her favor that it's perfectly legal for a president to give an executive order to abolish the amendment. This is far fetched, but that's what happens when the Supreme Court has liberal judges. You simply don't know what's going to happen. They are not going to play by the rules, they are going to rule as if they are voting in congress. That is NOT the intent of the highest court in the land.
    If she does win, which I think she will, let's pray that we have a majority conservative senate with some balls that will shoot her nominees down.
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    Wait didn't Obama already take all the guns away??? I mean this is exactly what was being said when he ran. BRB need to go count my guns make sure they are still all there.
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    Mike Pence said that DT's statement to the pro 2nd Amendment voting block that they "might be able do something to stop HC," was an appeal to that block to vote their convictions and stressed that his running mate was not calling for violence.

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    Originally Posted by machined View Post
    Mike Pence said that DT's statement to the pro 2nd Amendment voting block that they "might be able do something to stop HC," was an appeal to that block to vote their convictions and stressed that his running mate was not calling for violence.

    Why is this an issue?
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    She could stop her campaign today and still whip his ass by double digits.
    So you believe that the Majority of voters have the moral Elevator of Dante`s Inferno, and would just turn a blind eye & elect, the most corrupt, contemptible, Fraudulent, vile, unindicted treasonous despicable Human to ever run for President, Hillary ?........................If that is so, then we are, as a Nation pretty well Finished, would you not agree
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    What`s even More telling about the Press and how they are focusing in on anything Trump Says or Does and not Hillary, the big hub bub today is Mr Trumps comments about the 2nd amendment, But what about Hillary at her speech in Florida, and Directly behind her was the Father of the islamo fascist murderer who massacred all those Americans in Orlando a few months ago, where is the Press, this guy was within 20 Ft of her and has Publicly stated she would be a better President than Trump, where is the outrage and the scrutiny ...................OH and Phelps just Notched # 20 GOLD Well deserved and Earned
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    Originally Posted by thomashenry View Post
    What`s even More telling about the Press and how they are focusing in on anything Trump Says or Does and not Hillary, the big hub bub today is Mr Trumps comments about the 2nd amendment, But what about Hillary at her speech in Florida, and Directly behind her was the Father of the islamo fascist murderer who massacred all those Americans in Orlando a few months ago, where is the Press, this guy was within 20 Ft of her and has Publicly stated she would be a better President than Trump, where is the outrage and the scrutiny ...................OH and Phelps just Notched # 20 GOLD Well deserved and Earned
    Oh come on. Trump made a poorly worded comment. He deserves the ridicule. HC was at a rally without knowledge this guy was there. It's fun watching many of you implode though.

    "Though Mateen claimed he had been “invited” to the Kissimmee, Fla., rally outside of Orlando, he also suggested the invitation may have come in the form of a mass email."
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...candidate.html

    Oh another site has it too http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/09/politi...ton/index.html
    So much for the press not covering it

    Also, David Duke endorsed Trump- whats your point here? She has no control over who endorses her just as I don't hold Trump accountable for Dukes endorsement.

    Stick with the facts and the issues at hand. All this "well she did it first" crap dilutes any valid points.

    And yes grats to Phelps. Was a real close race too.
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    Yeah, but.....the sad part is, that even conservatives...who know media bias is horrifically against conservatives....are buying into the BS...just because it's blasted 24/7. IOW, it's working! Yes, we all know he says some chit he shouldn't, but face it, HC hasn't given an actual press conference in ...how many days? Yeah. I suppose she's smart enough NOT to subject herself to questions that would expose her, but it's more disappointing to me that people don't see that for what it is. She is TOTALLY inaccessible to the press. Smart on her part, because Americans are too stupid to even realize why she won't.
    I have to roll my eyes at anyone taking anything the media says seriously

    obviously those who get a government check will genuinely be for Hillary, and the CTR shilling has gone beyond annoying - but anyone not in those groups who parrots the media BS is pretty much a useful idiot at this point.
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    Originally Posted by wesleysh21 View Post
    This is why the left is so scary. They don't care about the constitution. When Hillary says she is going to get rid of guns, she is going to get rid of guns. Well, for law abiding citizens that is. That's why it is SOOOOOOOOO damn important to ALWAYS have a conservative majority in the Supreme Court, no matter what your political views are. Their job is to play by the rules, and that means the constitution. Liberal judges throw out what the constitution says, and they change law by their rulings. They say "well, the constitution is an old document. If the founding fathers were alive today, I'm sure they'd agree with what we are doing." Not cool.

    Giving a hopefully far fetched example of how liberal judges work...Hillary can give an executive order on day one that the 2nd amendment is null and void. All guns by private citizens are now illegal. People take it to court, and the Supreme Court rules in her favor that it's perfectly legal for a president to give an executive order to abolish the amendment. This is far fetched, but that's what happens when the Supreme Court has liberal judges. You simply don't know what's going to happen. They are not going to play by the rules, they are going to rule as if they are voting in congress. That is NOT the intent of the highest court in the land.
    So liberals are evil and hell bent on destroying the founding principles of America? Conservatives must be what? Everything righteous and fair?

    You got me. BURN THE CONSTITUTION!!! Love your Wizard of OZ politics.

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    So you believe that the Majority of voters have the moral Elevator of Dante`s Inferno, and would just turn a blind eye & elect, the most corrupt, contemptible, Fraudulent, vile, unindicted treasonous despicable Human to ever run for President, Hillary ?........................If that is so, then we are, as a Nation pretty well Finished, would you not agree
    More than likely most people see them both as vile. Apparently more people see Trump as more vile.
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    Oh come on. Trump made a poorly worded comment. He deserves the ridicule. HC was at a rally without knowledge this guy was there. It's fun watching many of you implode though.

    "Though Mateen claimed he had been “invited” to the Kissimmee, Fla., rally outside of Orlando, he also suggested the invitation may have come in the form of a mass email."
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...candidate.html

    Oh another site has it too http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/09/politi...ton/index.html
    So much for the press not covering it

    Also, David Duke endorsed Trump- whats your point here? She has no control over who endorses her just as I don't hold Trump accountable for Dukes endorsement.

    Stick with the facts and the issues at hand. All this "well she did it first" crap dilutes any valid points.

    And yes grats to Phelps. Was a real close race too.
    I simply used to a degree the same narrative that the Press uses, from what I Have Read "Anyone" at a Presidential Rally is Picked, & Vetted, Not that is an excuse, I understand your Point, Duke is a Clown and non factor a Fringe racist like all those who embrace that type of evil, and he was dismissed, where as the Father of the murderer has not been addressed as of yet by Hildabeast or her Camp, I could be wrong in that, they may have had a focus group to address it.

    And you have read my posts, I am not exactly a Pom pom boy for Trump, I also as difficult as it may seem steer away from FAUX news and definitely not a CNN fan, again though I see your Point
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