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    I absolutely love Meadow's rows. I need to start doing them more on my OHP day. Matter of fact I'll be hitting them tomorrow for my pull movement

    I've always been interested in Conjugate training but I figured I don't have most of the equipment necessary to even attempt to run it, let alone that program IQ on how to even set it all up.

    That's awesome that it's working out really well for you and the gains you've made from it thus far speak for themselves.
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    Originally Posted by CW47 View Post
    Barbell Hack Squat: I'm shocked that I was able to do over 300. Most I'd ever done previously was around 145. Form is sloppy since I'm not used to this lift, but I never felt in danger of hurting myself. I also attempted 325. On the first attempt it didn't get off the floor (poor balance and bracing). Tried a second time and got it to my knees, but it was not going any further than that. I'm curious to see where I'll feel sore tomorrow, lol.

    Wide Stance Deadlift w/Snatch Grip: I'm getting comfortable with these. They've felt easier each week despite 10 pound weight increases.

    Gliding Hamstring Curl: I think I will need to do these for higher reps in the future, because I really wasn't feeling anything until the final few reps. Of course, it's also possible that I'm just not doing them correctly.

    Meadows Row: This lift is SO good. I can easily change what muscles it works by adjusting stance and back angle. I can stand a bit further away with my back more horizontal and target the upper back and rear delts. I can stand closer and more upright and target the lats. And in both scenarios it does a great job of isolating those muscles.
    Good stuff CW. I've thought about the Meadows row but need a place to stick my barbell. Living room is kinda tight.

    That hack squat really looks like a deadlift, and there's some lower back rounding. Are you supposed to be more upright?

    I love the wide stance snatch grip DL, I call it medium stance.

    Gliding ham curl, Are you pulling yourself all the way forward, hams touching calves?
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    Originally Posted by ECGordyn View Post
    That hack squat really looks like a deadlift, and there's some lower back rounding. Are you supposed to be more upright?
    X2. I had to google that exercise cause I thought you were doing a regular deadlift in the vid. It sounds like it’s supposed to be a leg exercise so you’d probably want to drop your hips really low and bend your knees
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    I absolutely love Meadow's rows. I need to start doing them more on my OHP day. Matter of fact I'll be hitting them tomorrow for my pull movement

    I've always been interested in Conjugate training but I figured I don't have most of the equipment necessary to even attempt to run it, let alone that program IQ on how to even set it all up.

    That's awesome that it's working out really well for you and the gains you've made from it thus far speak for themselves.
    If you ever decide to give it a try, let me know. I've created a template that makes the programming pretty straight forward. I'd say that some parts of the program are better with things like bands and/or chains (primarily the speed work). But I really don't think it's necessary. Variation can be built in through things as simple of different grip/stance widths, tempos, rep ranges, etc. I have a spreadsheet I've created with a log template, lists of exercises with video links, and some graphs that allow me to track progress over time. I'm happy to share it if you, or anyone else, are ever interested.
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    Originally Posted by SaviorSelfJT View Post
    X2. I had to google that exercise cause I thought you were doing a regular deadlift in the vid. It sounds like it’s supposed to be a leg exercise so you’d probably want to drop your hips really low and bend your knees
    Originally Posted by ECGordyn View Post
    Good stuff CW. I've thought about the Meadows row but need a place to stick my barbell. Living room is kinda tight.

    That hack squat really looks like a deadlift, and there's some lower back rounding. Are you supposed to be more upright?

    I love the wide stance snatch grip DL, I call it medium stance.

    Gliding ham curl, Are you pulling yourself all the way forward, hams touching calves?
    You're both totally right on the Hack Squat. And that's why I'm not sold on it (for myself personally) as a max effort exercise, and think it's probably better suited for higher rep work. My form changed on it as it got heavier, simply because that was the way I could get the weight up.

    I do those deads with my feet somewhere between the width of my Conventional and Sumo stance. So from that standpoint it's more of a medium stance, yes. But looking at it as a conventional style deadlift, it's quite a lot wider than I would typically do (feet almost twice as far apart). But I think there's a fair amount of variability in stance width that can work just fine on this lift. I should probably just call it the Candito Deadlift, lol.

    On the Ham Curl, Hams were not touching calves, so I wasn't going far enough then - good to know. I will do a fuller range of motion next time around.
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    Originally Posted by CW47 View Post
    If you ever decide to give it a try, let me know. I've created a template that makes the programming pretty straight forward. I'd say that some parts of the program are better with things like bands and/or chains (primarily the speed work). But I really don't think it's necessary. Variation can be built in through things as simple of different grip/stance widths, tempos, rep ranges, etc. I have a spreadsheet I've created with a log template, lists of exercises with video links, and some graphs that allow me to track progress over time. I'm happy to share it if you, or anyone else, are ever interested.
    I have some basic minister mini bands, one pro monster mini band, and a pro average resistance band. Currently only specialty bar I have is my Titan V2 SSB.

    I’d be down to see the set up you have going if you didn’t mind.
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    I think the best way for me to lay it out is to break it down by Max Effort, Dynamic Effort, and Accessory work, since they each have their own setup/cycles. Then I'll pull it all together to show what it looks like. I'll lay it out over the course of a few posts, rather than doing one massive post.

    My log is setup to run in 12 week cycles. Max Effort days are programmed in 6 week cycles. Competition Squat and Bench Press are done on the first week of each 6 week cycle. These, along with the Competition Deadlift done in week 2, are the primary reference point I use to tell if I'm making progress. I'll use my performance in these to tell me whether the programming in my previous cycle was effective.

    Max Lower: This is essentially a 6 week rotation, with the exercises being very similar, but slightly different on the second 6 weeks.
    Week 1 - Competition Squat
    Week 2 - Competition Deadlift
    Week 3 - Front/Zercher/Hack Squat
    Week 4 - Non-Competition Deadlift Variation
    Week 5 - Box/Pin Squat
    Week 6 - Rack Pull/Block Pull
    Week 7 - Competition Squat
    Week 8 - Wide Grip Deadlift
    Week 9 - Squat w/Band/Chain
    Week 10 - Deficit Deadlift
    Week 11 - Paused Squat
    Week 12 - Deadlift w/Band/Chain

    Max Upper: As with the Max Lower, this is a 6 week rotation. Here the exercises are exactly the same for each 6 weeks cycle. I can/will add in variation by using different grip widths, so that each cycle isn't exactly the same.
    Week 1 - Competition Bench Press
    Week 2 - Incline Bench Press
    Week 3 - Close Grip Bench Press
    Week 4 - Bench Press w/Band/Chain
    Week 5 - Specialty Bar
    Week 6 - Floor/Board/Pin Press
    Week 7 - Competition Bench Press
    Week 8 - Incline Bench Press
    Week 9 - Close Grip Bench Press
    Week 10 - Bench Press w/Band/Chain
    Week 11 - Specialty Bar
    Week 12 - Floor/Board/Pin Press
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    Originally Posted by CW47 View Post
    I think the best way for me to lay it out is to break it down by Max Effort, Dynamic Effort, and Accessory work, since they each have their own setup/cycles. Then I'll pull it all together to show what it looks like. I'll lay it out over the course of a few posts, rather than doing one massive post.

    My log is setup to run in 12 week cycles. Max Effort days are programmed in 6 week cycles. Competition Squat and Bench Press are done on the first week of each 6 week cycle. These, along with the Competition Deadlift done in week 2, are the primary reference point I use to tell if I'm making progress. I'll use my performance in these to tell me whether the programming in my previous cycle was effective.

    Max Lower: This is essentially a 6 week rotation, with the exercises being very similar, but slightly different on the second 6 weeks.
    Week 1 - Competition Squat
    Week 2 - Competition Deadlift
    Week 3 - Front/Zercher/Hack Squat
    Week 4 - Non-Competition Deadlift Variation
    Week 5 - Box/Pin Squat
    Week 6 - Rack Pull/Block Pull
    Week 7 - Competition Squat
    Week 8 - Wide Grip Deadlift
    Week 9 - Squat w/Band/Chain
    Week 10 - Deficit Deadlift
    Week 11 - Paused Squat
    Week 12 - Deadlift w/Band/Chain

    Max Upper: As with the Max Lower, this is a 6 week rotation. Here the exercises are exactly the same for each 6 weeks cycle. I can/will add in variation by using different grip widths, so that each cycle isn't exactly the same.
    Week 1 - Competition Bench Press
    Week 2 - Incline Bench Press
    Week 3 - Close Grip Bench Press
    Week 4 - Bench Press w/Band/Chain
    Week 5 - Specialty Bar
    Week 6 - Floor/Board/Pin Press
    Week 7 - Competition Bench Press
    Week 8 - Incline Bench Press
    Week 9 - Close Grip Bench Press
    Week 10 - Bench Press w/Band/Chain
    Week 11 - Specialty Bar
    Week 12 - Floor/Board/Pin Press
    Good stuff so far man I appreciate you posting all that.
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    Dynamic Effort - Lower: I do both a Squat and a Deadlift variation on this day. I do the same lift for 3 consecutive weeks, increasing weight each week. I initially used set percentages, but quickly found that it did not work, so I'm now picking my weights based entirely upon previous experience. You need to be able to move the weight very fast, so if bar speed is slowed at all it is too heavy for Dynamic work.
    Week 1-3 Squat - 12 inch Box Squat
    Week 1-3 Dead - Any Deadlift Variant
    Week 4-6 Squat - 16 inch Box Squat
    Week 4-6 Dead - Any Deadlift Variant
    Week 7-9 Squat - 20 inch Box Squat
    Week 7-9 Dead - Any Deadlift Variant
    Week 10-12 Squat - 16 inch Box Squat
    Week 10-12 Dead - Any Deadlift Variant

    While weight increases weekly, reps decrease weekly. Here are some examples of how I wave these. Keep in mind that, as I mentioned above, I no longer use percentages - this is just to provide an example and potential starting point.

    Dynamic Squat
    Week 1 = 12 sets x 2 reps @55%
    Week 2 = 10 sets x 2 reps @60%
    Week 3 = 8 sets x 2 reps @65%

    Dynamic Deadlift
    Week 1 = 10 sets x 2 reps @65%
    Week 2 = 8 sets x 2 reps @70%
    Week 3 = 6 sets x 2 reps @75%


    Dynamic Effort - Upper: This is much more straight forward. I'll pick a Bench Press variation, usually trying to target a weak point, and do it for 3 weeks. Just as with the Dynamic Lower work, weight increases weekly. However, I keep the sets and reps the same each week (9 sets of 3). Again, the percentages listed are only a guide, and should be adjusted as needed to assure fast bar speed. I almost always use bands or chains for this, but it's not a requirement.

    Dynamic Bench
    Week 1 = 9 sets of 3 @45%
    Week 2 = 9 sets of 3 @50%
    Week 3 = 9 sets of 3 @55%
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    Accessory/Supplemental Work: I have a slightly different template I use on each day of the week, but it repeats indefinitely. I change exercises every 3 weeks. They can certainly be changes more or less frequently, but every 3 weeks seems to work best for me. It's also worth mentioning that I wave the set/rep ranges over a 12 weeks cycle, but keep in mind that this is still very much experimental, and I've nowhere near enough experience to say that my setup is even decent, much less ideal.

    Max Lower:
    Weeks 1-3 = 3 sets x 12 reps
    Weeks 4-6 = 4 sets x 8 reps
    Weeks 7-9 = 5 sets x 5 reps
    Weeks 10-12 = 7 sets x 3 reps

    Compound Squat or Dead focused lift - 5 sets x 5 reps (this is the one exception when it comes to waving set/rep ranges - I do not change the set/rep scheme on my primary compound Supplemental exercise)
    Glute/Ham
    Low Back
    Lats


    Max Upper:
    Weeks 1-3 = 2 sets x 12 reps
    Weeks 4-6 = 3 sets x 10 reps
    Weeks 7-9 = 4 sets x 6 reps
    Weeks 10-12 = 6 sets x 4 reps

    Compound Press - 5 sets x 5 reps
    Triceps
    Back/Lats
    Shoulders
    Abs


    Dynamic Lower:
    Weeks 1-3 = 2 sets x 12 reps
    Weeks 4-6 = 3 sets x 10 reps
    Weeks 7-9 = 4 sets x 6 reps
    Weeks 10-12 = 6 sets x 4 reps

    Glute/Ham
    Low Back
    Lats


    Dynamic Upper:
    Weeks 1-3 = 3 sets x 15 reps
    Weeks 4-6 = 3 sets x 12 reps
    Weeks 7-9 = 4 sets x 8 reps
    Weeks 10-12 = 5 sets x 5 reps

    Compound Press - 5 sets x 5 reps
    Triceps
    Back/Lat
    Shoulders
    Abs


    I fairly regularly will drop off a body part if I have another with carryover that will hit it. Low Back and Lats, and Shoulder and Triceps both tend to have a lot of carryover, so I'll often drop one of those.
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    So then, I'll use my current week as an example of how all of this is pulled together. For reference, I'm in week 3 of my 12 weeks cycle.

    Saturday - Max Lower
    Max Effort - Hack Squat (1 rep max attempt)
    Compound Lift - Wide Stance Snatch Grip Deadlift - 5 sets x 5 reps
    Glute/Ham - Gliding Leg Curl - 3 sets x 12 reps
    Low Back - (Dropped since I'm already doing a lot of low back work) - would be 3 sets x 12 reps
    Lats - Meadows Row - 3 sets x 12 reps

    Sunday - Max Upper
    Max Effort - Close Grip Bench Press (1 rep max attempt)
    Compound Press - Floor Press - 5 sets x 5 reps
    Triceps - Close Grip Bench Press w/2 board - 2 sets x 12 reps
    Back/Lats - Face Pull - 2 sets x 12 reps (I will probably do these for higher reps though)
    Shoulders - DB Shoulder Press - 2 sets x 12 reps
    Abs - Ab Wheel - 2 sets x 12 reps

    Tuesday - Dynamic Lower
    12 inch Box Squat - 8 sets x 2 reps @60% (Speed Work)
    Conventional Deadlift - 6 sets x 2 reps @75% (Speed Work)
    Glute/Ham - 16 inch Step Up - 2 sets x 12 reps
    Low Back - (Dropped) - would be 2 sets x 12 reps
    Lats - Bent Row - 2 sets x 12 reps

    Wednesday - Dynamic Upper
    Bench Press w/Mini Band - 9 sets x 3 reps @55% (Speed Work)
    Compound Press - Seated Press w/Trap Bar - 5 sets x 5 reps
    Triceps - Incline Skull Crusher - 2 sets x 15 reps
    Back/Lats - Kroc Row - 2 sets x 15 reps
    Shoulders - (Dropped) - would be 2 sets x 15 reps
    Abs - Hanging Knee Raise - 3xAMRAP
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    Attaching my spreadsheet. It wasn't exactly designed to be user friendly, so if anyone uses this feel free to reach out to me with any questions you may have on how to use it.

    There's a tab with a generic 'Log Template', which lays out all of the information I've posted above in a very easy to understand way (I think).

    I have 2 different sections for Tracking. One is specifically for Max Effort Lifts, and the other is for everything else. I have graphs setup on the tab for Max Effort, and if you use this you'll have to refresh the data as you add it in order to have it show up in the graphs. This can be done by going to the 'Data' tab and clicking on 'Refresh All'. I haven't setup graphs for the Submax Tracking section yet, but that should be doable if someone wanted it - I primarily created this tab as an easy way to check previous bests on each exercise and rep range, rather than having to dig through paper logs.

    If you want to add or change options in the 'Dropdowns' (these are the selectable categories in the Tracking tabs), you should be able to do so. But like I said, let me know if you have any issues with it and I'll try to help out.

    There's an 'Overview' tab which can be used to plan out a full 12 week cycle.

    I also have tabs for 'Exercises', which includes a list of some that I knew I could do with the equipment I have available - these all include YouTube links as well.
    And finally there is an 'Accessory Rankings' tab which can be used to rank accessory lifts as you learn which work well for you and which don't.
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    This is really cool, you put a hell of a lot of work into this.
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    Originally Posted by Filmbuff81 View Post
    This is really cool, you put a hell of a lot of work into this.
    Yeah, I knew that if I was going to do my own programming of Conjugate I would need to understand the system reasonably well. I watched a lot of videos and read a lot of articles on it. The interesting thing about it to me is that it's fundamentally an incredibly simple system. It's probably the simplest system I've ever used. And I think that's what makes it difficult for people to wrap their brains around. We like structure, and the conjugate system doesn't use much structure. Essentially what is says is to do max or near max work every week for upper and lower body, do speed work once per week for each (even this isn't seen as necessary by many), and then add in supplemental work as needed.

    I've built a bunch of structure into it because I fundamentally lack the experience and understanding to truly run the program as intuitively as it's designed to be run. I expect that over time I will use less and less structure. I'm gradually moving that direction already. The structure makes it more complicated in some ways, but also takes a lot of the ambiguity out of it. I hope that anyone who attempts this style of programming will use what I've created only as an initial starting point.
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    Surprisingly, I have doms in my hamstrings today. I suppose it could be partially from the Candito Deadlifts, but I'd guess it's mostly from the gliding ham curls (good sign that they were more effective than I thought). Not feeling anything in my quads, which reinforces what I already knew - that I didn't do the barbell hack squats correctly. I'll have to be focused on doing them correctly next time I try them on a Max Effort day. I'll be sure to program them for some rep work between now and then.

    Close Grip Bench Press
    180 pounds x 1 rep
    Previous PR was 155 pounds, at the beginning of September. Obviously a huge improvement on that, which was expected. But I'm super surprised that I beat out my best ever competition Bench Press of 175. One thing I know I've improved enormously over the last couple of weeks is my grip, getting the bar sitting in the right position in my hands, and having my wrists straighter as a result of that. It's amazing how much difference this has made for me. I'm eager to see where my competition bench ends up next time I test it. Hoping to hit 185, and based upon today that should be totally possible.

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    Grip is also helping here. When I started out at 125 3 weeks ago, I wasn't sure I'd even be able to do a 5x5 at 130 in the coming weeks. I obviously was able to, and the reps today were easier than they were at 125.

    Close Grip Bench w/2 Board
    115 pounds - 2 sets x 12 reps

    Face Pull
    Mini Band - 3 sets x 20 reps

    DB Shoulder Press
    75 pounds (37.5's) - 2 sets x 12 reps
    These were a true 10 RPE on the final rep of the final set. Barely completed it.

    Kneeling Ab Wheel
    3 sets x 12 reps
    I'm going to feel this tomorrow...


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    Awesome job on the CG Bench PR! Also, very cool to share the methodology you are using. You are a credit to the game and an awesome, supportive dude on this site.
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    OK. Looks good!.

    I have a few suggestions for when you get to your next phase. If you are interested ofc.
    I see some deffinate places you could be tightening up the programming and bringing it up to a better output.

    And fukkin lol at hack squats...
    I CANNOT get the bar past my knee cos my hammies are chonk and my arms are not long 😂
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    Originally Posted by JohnButz View Post
    Awesome job on the CG Bench PR! Also, very cool to share the methodology you are using. You are a credit to the game and an awesome, supportive dude on this site.
    Thank you sir!

    Originally Posted by MyEgoProblem View Post
    OK. Looks good!.

    I have a few suggestions for when you get to your next phase. If you are interested ofc.
    I see some deffinate places you could be tightening up the programming and bringing it up to a better output.

    And fukkin lol at hack squats...
    I CANNOT get the bar past my knee cos my hammies are chonk and my arms are not long
    Yeah, I can't take them too seriously, but they're fun to throw in here and there.

    I'm 100% open to suggestions!
    I have no doubt that my programming has a LOT of room for improvement, and I'm happy to take input from you and others that are knowledgeable and experienced.
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    January 19, 2021 - Dynamic Lower

    12 inch Box Squat
    135 pounds - 8 sets x 2 reps
    The low box squats are always a challenge for me because they're right at or just below the bottom of my normal squat. The reps today were relatively smooth and fast, considering.

    Conventional Deadlift
    250 pounds - 6 sets x 2 reps
    This was light and fast. Setup is definitely getting better because the bar was breaking the floor when I was pulling the slack out. I shot video of the fifth set, which can be seen at the end of the post.

    Step Ups - 16 inch box
    60 pounds - 2 sets x 12 reps


    Bent Row
    130 pounds - 2 sets x 12 reps


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    That’s great the deadlift form is getting dialed in. It’s gotta feel good seeing things getting better. Your putting in the work man it’s motivating
    Making progress is definitely more fun than the alternative.


    January 20, 2021 - Dynamic Upper

    Banded Bench Press
    105 pounds + mini band - 9 sets x 3 reps
    This was right on the edge of being too heavy for speed work. Still felt pretty good though.

    Seated Shoulder Press w/Trap Bar
    95 pounds - 5 sets x 5 reps
    It was good that I took video from the back for the first time in a while, because I was able to see that I'm not pressing straight. I'm favoring my right side as I get fatigued. I'll have to be more cognizant of this in the future, and focus on keeping the movement straight up and straight down.

    Incline Skull Crusher
    55 pounds - 2 sets x 12 reps
    I was supposed to do sets of 15, but struggled even to get the 12 per set. No matter though. I'd rather have done the 12 with decent form than to force up 15 with poor form.

    Kroc Row
    75 pounds - 2 sets x 15 reps
    These are feeling so good. As I increase the weight each time, I feel that good burn in my back more and more.


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    January 23, 2021 - Max Lower
    Energy was low. My workout drug out to nearly 2 hours because of pretty long rest periods.


    Conventional Deadlift
    365 pounds x 1 rep
    Grip failed at lockout, but I'm calling it good for a 10 pound PR. 375 might have been there with straps, but it can wait. I also included a rep at 345 in the video below. It came up pretty easily.

    Paused Squat
    115 pounds - 5 sets x 5 reps
    These are really a challenge for me. Which means I need to do them more regularly. I struggle to get into good position at the bottom without losing my balance. I struggle to stay tight at the bottom. I struggle to start the weight moving up again after the pause. I played around with stance width and found that it's infinitely easier for me to get into a good bottom position with a wider stance, but I'm also significantly weaker that way. Lots of work to do here.

    Seated Hamstring Curl w/band
    Mini Band - 4 sets x 8 reps
    Watch the video below to see how I'm doing these. This exercise is definitely a keeper. It felt great.

    Yates Row
    115 pounds - 4 sets x 8 reps
    I should be able to significantly increase the weight on this over the coming weeks. Started out low since I've not done this exercise before.


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    Do you think grip strength may be holding you back? It's totally possible you would have ripped 365 off of the ground much faster if your grip was stronger. Your body knows to slow itself down if it would break your grip otherwise
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    Awesome work with the big time PRS. Lifts are looking pretty good from a form and technique perspective. It's always good when you recognize where improvements can be made.
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    Originally Posted by Raigs View Post
    Man deadlift PR after PR keep crushing it!
    It probably can't continue forever, but it's a ton of fun for the moment.

    Originally Posted by SaviorSelfJT View Post
    Do you think grip strength may be holding you back? It's totally possible you would have ripped 365 off of the ground much faster if your grip was stronger. Your body knows to slow itself down if it would break your grip otherwise
    Yes, for sure grip strength is holding me back a little bit. I'm definitely easing on the pressure off the ground rather than going full force, and that's bound to impact my speed, and therefore ability to compete lifts.

    I have straps, and I'm not at all opposed to using them. I've no plan to ever complete, so ultimately grip isn't a big deal. I just prefer using a hook or mixed grip over straps when I can (because I like the feeling of the bar in my hands), and I didn't expect to have an issue on this day. Was taken by surprise by it a little bit.

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    Awesome work with the big time PRS. Lifts are looking pretty good from a form and technique perspective. It's always good when you recognize where improvements can be made.
    Thanks man. Finding opportunities for improvement is still pretty easy for me, because there are so many of them, lmao! I've made huge improvements on technique over the last 9 months. I'm glad they're evident. Thank you for recognizing and mentioning that.
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    Yes, for sure grip strength is holding me back a little bit. I'm definitely easing on the pressure off the ground rather than going full force, and that's bound to impact my speed, and therefore ability to compete lifts.

    I have straps, and I'm not at all opposed to using them. I've no plan to ever complete, so ultimately grip isn't a big deal. I just prefer using a hook or mixed grip over straps when I can (because I like the feeling of the bar in my hands), and I didn't expect to have an issue on this day. Was taken by surprise by it a little bit.
    I used to be a perma strapper and recently stopped using them for deadlifts. I stopped because I felt they were actually hurting my deadlift because of the extra time I had to spend hunched down getting them setup. Plus I think my forearms were underdeveloped. I kinda regret ever using them for deadlifts tbh

    "static holds" seemed to have a huge impact on my grip strength if you want to try them. Basically get a heavy barbell in your squat rack just beneath lockout, then pick it up and hold it for as long as possible for one "set". Pretty easy to incorporate into an existing training plan because its only training your grip
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    Sometimes the grip is just dead. If I’m overly fatigued I know it’ll mess with mine hard.

    Static hold suggestion is good, as is just holding your reps on their own for like 5 seconds at the top.

    Pause deadlifts hammered my grip too and made deadlifts feel easier in general.
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    I used to be a perma strapper and recently stopped using them for deadlifts. I stopped because I felt they were actually hurting my deadlift because of the extra time I had to spend hunched down getting them setup. Plus I think my forearms were underdeveloped. I kinda regret ever using them for deadlifts tbh

    "static holds" seemed to have a huge impact on my grip strength if you want to try them. Basically get a heavy barbell in your squat rack just beneath lockout, then pick it up and hold it for as long as possible for one "set". Pretty easy to incorporate into an existing training plan because its only training your grip
    Originally Posted by Filmbuff81 View Post
    Sometimes the grip is just dead. If I’m overly fatigued I know it’ll mess with mine hard.

    Static hold suggestion is good, as is just holding your reps on their own for like 5 seconds at the top.

    Pause deadlifts hammered my grip too and made deadlifts feel easier in general.
    Cheers guys. That is great feedback! I actually have paused deadlifts planned for my next workout, lol. First time I've ever done them. I can definitely see how they would help with grip, even though that's not the reason I programmed them. I'll see what kind of impact they have, and then consider adding in some static holds as well.
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    Banded Bench Press
    135 pounds + Lite Band (Orange) x 1 rep
    First time maxing out with a Lite Band. This time I could tell that with the way I have the bands setup they are adding around an extra 40-45 pounds of tension each at the top of the lift. I could tell this because it was just on the verge of pulling the 45 pound weight I use to stabilize it off of the ground, and I had to add some extra weights on top of them to keep them from moving. I had to attempt the lift twice. On the first attempt I did a slight pause at the bottom and then was only able to get the bar up a couple of inches. On the second attempt it was more of a touch and go. I'll need to add in some exercises to build strength off my chest more regularly (Spoto Press, Paused Bench, Pin Press, Larsen Press, etc.).

    Dumbbell Bench Press
    120 pounds (60's) - 5 sets x 5 reps
    These were more of a challenge than I expected. Not sure I'll be able to increase weight the next 2 weeks, but we'll see.

    Swede Crushers
    65 pounds - 1 sets x 6 reps
    45 pounds - 2 sets x 10 reps

    Was shooting for 3 sets of 10 here, but started out too heavy. Probably didn't do them quite right, so I'll keep working on it.

    T-Bar Row
    85 Pounds - 3 sets x 10 reps

    Landmine Press
    70 pounds - 3 sets x 10 reps
    First time ever doing these. I like them a lot. Probably went a little bit too heavy since I had several reps that turned into grinders. Still, they felt great.

    Decline Crunch
    3 sets x 12 reps


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