Reply
Results 1 to 15 of 15
  1. #1
    Registered User chrissidious's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Age: 33
    Posts: 55
    Rep Power: 98
    chrissidious has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    chrissidious is offline

    When do I do sprints? Before or during or after leg day?

    Just wanted to know where is the best place for sprints in my workout?
    Reply With Quote

  2. #2
    Cybergenics...it's bomb! lucia316's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Loomis, California, United States
    Posts: 8,425
    Rep Power: 127871
    lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    lucia316 is offline
    Depends on which is more important to you, speed work or strength work.

    Would probably not do them together regardless of goals.
    MAN Sports Forum Rep
    "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate..."

    Disclaimer: The statement above reflects that of my own opinion & in no way that of MAN Sports. MAN products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
    Disclaimer 2: I still think BCAAs are not necessary
    Reply With Quote

  3. #3
    Registered User chrissidious's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Age: 33
    Posts: 55
    Rep Power: 98
    chrissidious has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    chrissidious is offline
    Originally Posted by lucia316 View Post
    Depends on which is more important to you, speed work or strength work.

    Would probably not do them together regardless of goals.
    fat loss
    Reply With Quote

  4. #4
    Registered User Knighthawk98's Avatar
    Join Date: Mar 2013
    Age: 21
    Posts: 10
    Rep Power: 0
    Knighthawk98 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Knighthawk98 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Knighthawk98 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Knighthawk98 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Knighthawk98 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Knighthawk98 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Knighthawk98 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Knighthawk98 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Knighthawk98 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) Knighthawk98 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    Knighthawk98 is offline
    if you are working on fat loss do legs after running, you will put more time and effort into the running and less into squatting, leg press, etc.... but if your main goal is losing fat then i wouldn't worry about doing legs as much as running...
    Reply With Quote

  5. #5
    Registered User krakkerz's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2013
    Location: Parkes, NSW, Australia
    Age: 46
    Posts: 2,856
    Rep Power: 3721
    krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    krakkerz is offline
    Originally Posted by chrissidious View Post
    Just wanted to know where is the best place for sprints in my workout?
    Speed work prior to lifting, conditioning or fat loss training after - Always
    Reply With Quote

  6. #6
    Cybergenics...it's bomb! lucia316's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Loomis, California, United States
    Posts: 8,425
    Rep Power: 127871
    lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    lucia316 is offline
    Originally Posted by krakkerz View Post
    Speed work prior to lifting, conditioning or fat loss training after - Always
    Actually, it really depends on one's goals...not Always.
    MAN Sports Forum Rep
    "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate..."

    Disclaimer: The statement above reflects that of my own opinion & in no way that of MAN Sports. MAN products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
    Disclaimer 2: I still think BCAAs are not necessary
    Reply With Quote

  7. #7
    Protein Shakespeare kingmode's Avatar
    Join Date: Apr 2014
    Posts: 6,675
    Rep Power: 8372
    kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000) kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000) kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000) kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000) kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000) kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000) kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000) kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000) kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000) kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000) kingmode is a name known to all. (+5000)
    kingmode is offline
    not during.

    Depends on a lot of factors.

    What sport do u play?
    What split r u on?
    How much time to train do u have?
    Basic Football / Sports Training Guide:
    http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=172545001

    Train smart.
    Reply With Quote

  8. #8
    Registered User jjackson556's Avatar
    Join Date: Feb 2016
    Age: 33
    Posts: 64
    Rep Power: 48
    jjackson556 has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    jjackson556 is offline
    I'd separate the sessions by 72 hours if possible. Legs and Sprints both burn fat but putting them together is not going to yield twice the results but it will affect your workouts later on in a negative way. Really you want as many good workout sessions as you can recover from and maintain a calorie deficit and you'll lose weight.
    Jake


    Former Marine Officer, Current Police Officer, Crossfit Lvl 1 Coach, All Around Odd Job
    Reply With Quote

  9. #9
    Registered User krakkerz's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2013
    Location: Parkes, NSW, Australia
    Age: 46
    Posts: 2,856
    Rep Power: 3721
    krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    krakkerz is offline
    Originally Posted by lucia316 View Post
    Actually, it really depends on one's goals...not Always.
    No. Always.

    If you have different goals, remove or reduce the amount of one. But, if you are doing speed work after lifting, you are both cheating yourself and risking injury unnecessarily. Conditioning work before lifting cheat your lifting unnecessarily.

    The basic principles don't change - irrespective of goals.
    Reply With Quote

  10. #10
    Cybergenics...it's bomb! lucia316's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Loomis, California, United States
    Posts: 8,425
    Rep Power: 127871
    lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    lucia316 is offline
    Originally Posted by krakkerz View Post
    No. Always.

    If you have different goals, remove or reduce the amount of one. But, if you are doing speed work after lifting, you are both cheating yourself and risking injury unnecessarily. Conditioning work before lifting cheat your lifting unnecessarily.

    The basic principles don't change - irrespective of goals.
    Yeah, you can keep just claiming it's so with zero to back it up, but goals do matter.

    Example: Since fat loss is the goal, it totally doesn't matter. Since fat is lost via caloric deficit to TDEE and has zero to do with timing of your exercise, type of exercise or timing of your nutrients order doesn't matter.
    MAN Sports Forum Rep
    "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate..."

    Disclaimer: The statement above reflects that of my own opinion & in no way that of MAN Sports. MAN products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
    Disclaimer 2: I still think BCAAs are not necessary
    Reply With Quote

  11. #11
    Registered User krakkerz's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2013
    Location: Parkes, NSW, Australia
    Age: 46
    Posts: 2,856
    Rep Power: 3721
    krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    krakkerz is offline
    Originally Posted by lucia316 View Post
    Yeah, you can keep just claiming it's so with zero to back it up, but goals do matter.

    Example: Since fat loss is the goal, it totally doesn't matter. Since fat is lost via caloric deficit to TDEE and has zero to do with timing of your exercise, type of exercise or timing of your nutrients order doesn't matter.
    I have plenty of prior posts on this board explaining my outlook. I can back up everything I say - and I think I do.

    The fact that you think this has anything to do with exercise timing for fat loss shows I didn't make myself cear. I'll explain again. Programming timing is about efficiency and safety. It ha nothing to do with TDEE, exercise or nutrient timing. On the latter, though, I'd suggest you take up some discussion with the like of John Berardi, who would disagree.

    Workout order is about exercise complexity, intensity and nervous system activation. Exercise for fat loss generally require the lowest neural component. The higher intensity and complexity exercises belong at the beginning of the workout.

    If conditioning or fat loss is a priority, this doesn't change. The prior exercises are either reduced or removed. If you are a trainer and program speed work, plyometrics or heavy lifting after conditioning or fat loss, you are cheating your client of gains in those areas, as well as increasing their chance of injury.

    For more on this, read almost any modern textbook or training manual of the last few years. I especially recommend Triphasic Training, which explains the higher neural component exercise placement extremely well.
    Last edited by krakkerz; 09-14-2016 at 06:05 AM.
    Reply With Quote

  12. #12
    Cybergenics...it's bomb! lucia316's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Loomis, California, United States
    Posts: 8,425
    Rep Power: 127871
    lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    lucia316 is offline
    Sigh. It's not my job to go and learn your perspective. You don't get to shirk your burden of proof by stating, "I've said it before."

    You don't actually need to exercise for fat loss. If your goal is to create a caloric deficit, how, when and the order of training surely does not matter to the vast majority of people with that goal.

    It doesn't change because it doesn't matter. If the goal is fat loss, it doesn't matter what you do because all exercise creates a greater caloric deficit. Fat is lost via caloric deficit, not how you train. Alan Aragon, Brad Schoenfeld and more continue to reconfirm that it doesn't matter for the vast majority of people.

    Regardless, how one trains outside of their body comp goals, it depends on their other goals as to prioritization of training. To claim otherwise is a specious oversimplification regardless of complexity or intensity.
    MAN Sports Forum Rep
    "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate..."

    Disclaimer: The statement above reflects that of my own opinion & in no way that of MAN Sports. MAN products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
    Disclaimer 2: I still think BCAAs are not necessary
    Reply With Quote

  13. #13
    Registered User krakkerz's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2013
    Location: Parkes, NSW, Australia
    Age: 46
    Posts: 2,856
    Rep Power: 3721
    krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500) krakkerz is a glorious beacon of knowledge. (+2500)
    krakkerz is offline
    I had a big post here, but I don't want to waste energy arguing on the internet.

    You win. Congratulations.
    Last edited by krakkerz; 09-15-2016 at 05:26 PM. Reason: Don't want to argue on the internet
    Reply With Quote

  14. #14
    Cybergenics...it's bomb! lucia316's Avatar
    Join Date: Jan 2012
    Location: Loomis, California, United States
    Posts: 8,425
    Rep Power: 127871
    lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000) lucia316 has a reputation beyond repute. Second best rank possible! (+100000)
    lucia316 is offline
    Originally Posted by krakkerz View Post
    I had a big post here, but I don't want to waste energy arguing on the internet.

    You win. Congratulations.
    LOL. Wasn't really an argument. You were simply overcomplicating things for someone and couldn't give a good reason as to why it was necessary to do so.
    MAN Sports Forum Rep
    "I'm pretty sure your wrong, but care to elaborate..."

    Disclaimer: The statement above reflects that of my own opinion & in no way that of MAN Sports. MAN products are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease.
    Disclaimer 2: I still think BCAAs are not necessary
    Reply With Quote

  15. #15
    Banned somairalam's Avatar
    Join Date: Sep 2012
    Location: Washington, District Of Columbia, United States
    Age: 35
    Posts: 62
    Rep Power: 0
    somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0) somairalam has no reputation, good or bad yet. (0)
    somairalam is offline
    Originally Posted by chrissidious View Post
    Just wanted to know where is the best place for sprints in my workout?
    For fatloss, after your weight training session.
    Reply With Quote

Similar Threads

  1. 1 Year to leave "Do I even lift?" Status.
    By Gibb1991 in forum Workout Journals
    Replies: 2808
    Last Post: 12-16-2019, 04:19 PM
  2. Replies: 9744
    Last Post: 12-11-2019, 12:50 AM
  3. Not feeling like i've "Done enough" after the day...
    By mikkaleichman in forum Teen Bodybuilding
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 01-29-2015, 09:56 PM
  4. I am a MASS MACHINE doing the "Challenge" and this is my journal
    By henderjb in forum Sponsored Supplement Logs
    Replies: 1326
    Last Post: 11-29-2014, 12:54 PM
  5. Replies: 846
    Last Post: 07-28-2013, 02:06 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts