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    also, i havnt read the thread but has anyone pointed out the fact that CNNs poll doesnt include 18-35 year olds???

    HAHAHAHAHA

    talk about a cooked poll, jesus christ. it leaves out half the voter base

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    Wait until the debates. He's going to crush her. She will be exposed as legit retarded.
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    It never mattered.
    Exactly.
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    Originally Posted by Forty0zFreedom View Post
    So Trump went down 3 in one poll and still leads another poll by 2.

    Lol, call the election.
    I'm looking at an average of several polls on Real Clear Politics (RCP Average). There is only one poll, LA Times, that has Trump ahead. Clinton's lead is anywhere from +1 to +9 in all the other polls.

    And, all were seeing right now are the effects of the conventions. Trump got a bump and lost it. Clinton's bump is still rising. Again we'll have to see if the trend continues.

    Given all of the gaffs by the Trump campaign, if they continue he's going to have a big deficit by the time the first debate is held.
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    Originally Posted by dawktwenty View Post
    Wait until the debates. He's going to crush her. She will be exposed as legit retarded.
    And if it goes the other way?
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    Originally Posted by PSToolman View Post
    I'm looking at an average of several polls on Real Clear Politics (RCP Average). There is only one poll, LA Times, that has Trump ahead. Clinton's lead is anywhere from +1 to +9 in all the other polls.

    And, all were seeing right now are the effects of the conventions. Trump got a bump and lost it. Clinton's bump is still rising. Again we'll have to see if the trend continues.

    Given all of the gaffs by the Trump campaign, if they continue he's going to have a big deficit by the time the first debate is held.
    I'm not of the believe that these polls aren't bad news for Trump, I'm just lol-ing at the idea that they mean Trump is finished. Just last week it was the other way around. Do we learn nothing about how much things can change in a week?

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    And if it goes the other way?
    It will be horrible for Trump, but even still, we won't know until November.
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    Trump his helping MSM trash his campaign. sht is insane
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    Originally Posted by Trapstar4.4 View Post
    Trump his helping MSM trash his campaign. sht is insane
    You think Trump is purposely doing it? Like he doesn't care anymore?
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    Originally Posted by Noliberals4 View Post
    You think Trump is purposely doing it? Like he doesn't care anymore?
    You realize the masses don't keep up with this stuff on a week to week basis right?

    Doing what exactly.

    Nothing Trump does really changes anything.

    The masses at this point in time have a consensus that both candidates are extreme, but they hate Hillary more than Trump. There is no poll that is relevant.

    As it gets closer, Trump will become more likable and sway everyone on the fence.

    Nobody particularly cares about Hillary.
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    Trump has hated on Soldiers and Fire Fighters this week. The dude is setting himself up to be destroyed come November. We may be seeing the biggest beat down since Reagan destroyed Mondale. You know it's bad when CNN the biggest Trump cheerleaders are picking against him. I lean republican, but Trump is definitely not getting my vote at this point.
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    Originally Posted by lsiberian View Post
    Trump has hated on Soldiers and Fire Fighters this week. The dude is setting himself up to be destroyed come November. We may be seeing the biggest beat down since Reagan destroyed Mondale. You know it's bad when CNN the biggest Trump cheerleaders are picking against him. I lean republican, but Trump is definitely not getting my vote at this point.
    what???? cnn biggest trump cheerleaders.

    ok now ive heard it all. ^^^certified shill right there
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    Originally Posted by PSToolman View Post
    I'm looking at an average of several polls on Real Clear Politics (RCP Average). There is only one poll, LA Times, that has Trump ahead. Clinton's lead is anywhere from +1 to +9 in all the other polls.

    And, all were seeing right now are the effects of the conventions. Trump got a bump and lost it. Clinton's bump is still rising. Again we'll have to see if the trend continues.

    Given all of the gaffs by the Trump campaign, if they continue he's going to have a big deficit by the time the first debate is held.
    you are basing your analysis that Hillary is still rising by looking at a +9 poll that was completely cooked by leaving out 18-35 year olds.
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    Originally Posted by lsiberian View Post
    . We may be seeing the biggest beat down since Reagan destroyed Mondale.
    See guys? I told you. Trump is the weakest nominee since Mondale.
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    Facts.
    This forum is insane....Id argue it has even gone to the right of Fox News.
    The complete disregard for any factual information is mindblowing.
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    Originally Posted by JaxBrah View Post
    also, i havnt read the thread but has anyone pointed out the fact that CNNs poll doesnt include 18-35 year olds???

    HAHAHAHAHA

    talk about a cooked poll, jesus christ. it leaves out half the voter base

    it's the opposite, young people dont vote and the ones that do are usually sjw liberals
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    Originally Posted by jamesbwbevis View Post
    it's the opposite, young people dont vote and the ones that do are usually sjw liberals

    yeah and those *******s are voting for jill stein
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    Originally Posted by ClutchAnalyst View Post
    yeah and those *******s are voting for jill stein
    a small sect of bernie diehard are voting stein. but tons of feminist leaning young libs are going for clinton
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    Originally Posted by jamesbwbevis View Post
    a small sect of bernie diehard are voting stein. but tons of feminist leaning young libs are going for clinton

    i very much doubt that. dems themselves are concerned about stein stealing significant amount of votes.

    roughly half of bernie's supporters were passionately against establishment--- they hate hillary

    you just dont see these things in the left wing polls and news, especially how they are being manipulated
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    Trump wants to ban muslims
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    It's laughable how cooked to **** this poll as well as others like Reuters are and have been. As soon as they saw an opportunity post DNC convention, they cooked them and attributed it all to a post-convention "bump" and stupid drama that voters don't or won't care about. They massively overrepresent democrats, leave out or marginalize demographics, and assume similar turnout and enthusiasm for the respective parties/candidates as the last two elections. The polls don't mean ****. The only concern I have is if this is done in an attempt to have something to point at and make potentially stealing this election not look like as big a sham.

    The devil is ALWAYS in the details. Look at the breakdowns of these polls. They treat it like it's Obama vs McCain/Romney again. It is anything but and given the numbers we saw in the primaries and rallies, the enthusiasm is on Trump's side. The MSM can pretend there weren't thousands and thousands of protesters outside the DNC and loud boos with every mention of Clinton inside the DNC, but that is going to take a toll come election time. Those are people who would/should vote Democrat but will not. People who did or would have voted Obama both of his terms. Clinton is a dead end candidate. For all of Trump's unorthodoxy and maddening of those who think he can only win the election conventionally, his number speak for themselves. Trump consistently outperformed polls as the primaries went on by large margins and those polls were not as heavily cooked as these BS GE polls. He just BTFO of Cruz and Kasich with increasing magnitude until they tapped out. He will win.
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    Originally Posted by ImRightUWrong View Post
    It's laughable how cooked to **** this poll as well as others like Reuters are and have been. As soon as they saw an opportunity post DNC convention, they cooked them and attributed it all to a post-convention "bump" and stupid drama that voters don't or won't care about. They massively overrepresent democrats, leave out or marginalize demographics, and assume similar turnout and enthusiasm for the respective parties/candidates as the last two elections. The polls don't mean ****. The only concern I have is if this is done in an attempt to have something to point at and make potentially stealing this election not look like as big a sham.

    The devil is ALWAYS in the details. Look at the breakdowns of these polls. They treat it like it's Obama vs McCain/Romney again. It is anything but and given the numbers we saw in the primaries and rallies, the enthusiasm is on Trump's side. The MSM can pretend there weren't thousands and thousands of protesters outside the DNC and loud boos with every mention of Clinton inside the DNC, but that is going to take a toll come election time. Those are people who would/should vote Democrat but will not. People who did or would have voted Obama both of his terms. Clinton is a dead end candidate. For all of Trump's unorthodoxy and maddening of those who think he can only win the election conventionally, his number speak for themselves. Trump consistently outperformed polls as the primaries went on in large margins and those polls were not as heavily cooked as these BS GE polls. He will win.
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    Nvious that you?
    who? Hey, man. I'm just stating the facts. It's a fact that the numbers and enthusiasm is on Trump's side given the numbers in the primaries, rallies, and how the respective conventions played out including Trump getting millions of more views during his speech. GE polls can be discounted simply by looking at the details and given the flip in the enthusiasm between the two parties making it almost impossible to confidently project how the election will break down both in terms of demographics and overall turnout. Hillary is NOT Obama and has nothing close going for her in comparison to him. Trump is NOT either of the neocon cuck losers McCain and Romney.
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    i very much doubt that. dems themselves are concerned about stein stealing significant amount of votes.

    roughly half of bernie's supporters were passionately against establishment--- they hate hillary

    you just dont see these things in the left wing polls and news, especially how they are being manipulated
    dude alot of them are going for hillary, if for no other reason that trump isnt an option for them. Stein doesnt have that big of a following, Johnson has more of the other candidates
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    Nostradamus was wrong? Damn!
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    It wasn't just miscers who believed the fake polls.
    Look at this video and the glee she has thinking that the polls are correct,

    and yet.....the emails that were exposed proved that the media and Hillary campaign were working together to put out fake polls showing hillary winning

    So funny that they were lying to force Trump to change or get Trump voters to give up, and THEY are the ones who fell for the lies.
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    Oh it's so funny!

    She is just so sure! and so gleeful about it
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