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    Originally Posted by GROSO View Post
    167.3 24% body fat. I'd take your advice if I want to learn how to waste my time srs.

    1) make food combos
    2) change brands
    3) drink diet soda, the malodextrin will make you hungrier.

    Any questions or are you gonna keep eating pizza and think you are making progress?
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    Originally Posted by Jammer02xd View Post
    It's already been covered that I was approaching things with the wrong mindset and looking only at "lean" foods and not more calorie dense foods.
    Non-calorie sense foods can also taste amazing.
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    Originally Posted by GROSO View Post
    Bro fuk everyone that says don't eat clean food chit. Eat clean, eat a pastry look like a pastry. Change some of your brands, make simple food combos like adding granola to yogurt, and as weird as this may sound diet soda or carbonated water, I can't remember. I know that's strange but it does some weird thing with insulin where your body will crave carbs

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    Oh...and drink diet soda

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    Originally Posted by rhadam View Post
    You look like chit and your advice is chit. Go away.
    Lol thanks you sik kunt

    What should I work on then?
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    There is so much in here I can't even.
    Eat a pastry, look like a pastry is pretty good, though. I'll definitely remember this one.
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    It's not ideal but if you can't consume enough calories eat more junk food. mass gainers, donuts, chocolate, peanut butter whatever it takes! Your body will get used to the extra volume of food fairly quickly.
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    Hi i am 6'3 ,185lbs ectomorph and i had the same problem with you .
    What worked for me when i started to add some gainz :
    I was raising my calories periodically by 200-300 kcal , like every 4weeks or a month,
    I started lifting heavy weights on compound movements .
    I was doing finisher excercises to fully deplet my glycogen stores so i can eat the **** out of me post workout.
    i spaced my meals .
    I avoided all the junk (optional) because i didnt need it .
    Now i am on a 3500kcal diet , steadily gaining 0.25kg per 2 weeks .
    The procedure is slow but i stay lean and i add muscle .
    Dont bulk with ****ty foods and junks , bulking is not even neccessary , if you wanna add muscle you can eat a surplus on your maintanance calories 300-500 calories and see if it works for you.
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    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    bulking is not even neccessary , if you wanna add muscle you can eat a surplus on your maintanance calories 300-500 calories and see if it works for you.
    so bulking then?
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    Originally Posted by wlodarczykn View Post
    so bulking then?
    No no no, it's different.

    It's eating a little above your maintenance, not bulking.
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    Originally Posted by jdrush View Post
    No no no, it's different.

    It's eating a little above your maintenance, not bulking.
    Ah, got it. Thanks for clearing that up.
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    lol some guys are gonna give OP a heart attack with their suggestions
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    lol at suggestions to eat ice cream and lather everything in olive oil. good night sweet spleen and gall bladder. 40% veg 30% grain 20% nuts/seeds 10% meat. in summer you can start putting some fruit in place of grains and veg.

    that is how you stay strong and healthy for 100 years. other ways ("dirty bulk") yes you'll grow quicker but the diet is not sustainable for over 20 years and deteriorates health
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    Originally Posted by HongAnz View Post
    lol some guys are gonna give OP a heart attack with their suggestions
    we're all gonna die , better to die swole & jacked than skinny fat
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    Originally Posted by wlodarczykn View Post
    so bulking then?
    what Jdrush said , Bulking and agresive bulking is way over 300-500 calories above maintanance. What i said is for people who wanna preserve and build muscle while staying as lean as possible( ofc with muscle comes a bit of fat but way less than bulking).
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    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    what Jdrush said , Bulking and agresive bulking is way over 300-500 calories above maintanance. What i said is for people who wanna preserve and build muscle while staying as lean as possible( ofc with muscle comes a bit of fat but way less than bulking).
    So what do you call eating 300-500 calories over maintenance?
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    Originally Posted by wlodarczykn View Post
    So what do you call eating 300-500 calories over maintenance?
    Definetely not bulking , more like a diet for lean muscle gain but lets not make a fuss for nothing , you got my point .
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    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    Definetely not bulking , more like a diet for lean muscle gain but lets not make a fuss for nothing , you got my point .
    What is "bulking" to you if not eating a surplus of calories?
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    Originally Posted by juggernaut74ia View Post
    What is "bulking" to you if not eating a surplus of calories?
    If you guys really wanna focus on whats bulking for me and not help the OP .
    Bulking for me is eating a big surplus of your calories .
    What i am saying could be said <lean bulk> but still whats the point of all this ?
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    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    If you guys really wanna focus on whats bulking for me and not help the OP .
    Bulking for me is eating a big surplus of your calories .
    What i am saying could be said <lean bulk> but still whats the point of all this ?
    You're talking about dirty bulking.

    Bulking means eating a surplus calories.
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    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    If you guys really wanna focus on whats bulking for me and not help the OP .
    Bulking for me is eating a big surplus of your calories . Satisfied ?
    Most refer to bulking as just gaining muscle.

    Now a dirty bulk is no regard whatsoever with how many calories you get, just go over. See Strongman diet.

    Clean bulk (I prefer slow bulk), is following a much more slow bulk as you are doing and minimizing fat gains. See Otter-mode diet.
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    You're talking about dirty bulking.

    Bulking means eating a surplus calories.
    Point is OP got alot of helpful replies and thats what forums offer and why exist
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    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    Point is OP got alot of helpful replies and thats what forums offer and why exist
    True.

    And the forum is also here to explain things to you that you're unaware of.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    True.

    And the forum is also here to explain things to you that you're unaware of.
    and thats also true .
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    If you think all your carbs have to come from brown rice you are going to have a bad time. People don't realize this but a lot of fruit is on the same level as rice on the GI. It's a lot more enjoyable to eat. You can eat 2 bananas in an instant instead of trying to force down a cup and a half of dry ass rice or beans and get the same thing out of it
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    Originally Posted by jdrush View Post
    No no no, it's different.

    It's eating a little above your maintenance, not bulking.
    I remember talking to a friend from the gym once, and as usual, I was lamenting my lack of strength gains even when eating in a surplus and gaining weight. His reply was: "Why don't you try bulking?"

    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    If you guys really wanna focus on whats bulking for me and not help the OP .
    Bulking for me is eating a big surplus of your calories .
    What i am saying could be said <lean bulk> but still whats the point of all this ?
    So basically there's this crystal clear definition of a word, yet you choose to assign it a completely different definition and then go "oh well, just difference of opinions, perfectly normal", right?
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    Originally Posted by EmperorRyker View Post
    I remember talking to a friend from the gym once, and as usual, I was lamenting my lack of strength gains even when eating in a surplus and gaining weight. His reply was: "Why don't you try bulking?"

    So basically there's this crystal clear definition of a word, yet you choose to assign it a completely different definition and then go "oh well, just difference of opinions, perfectly normal", right?
    **** i am getting cyber bullied .
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    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    If you guys really wanna focus on whats bulking for me and not help the OP .
    Bulking for me is eating a big surplus of your calories .
    What i am saying could be said <lean bulk> but still whats the point of all this ?
    I agree, I have seen great gains only eating above maintenance 100-300 calories and I have dropped body fat % as well. Full out bulking is better left for those who are competing or on gear. Just my opinion.
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    Originally Posted by GetSomeHate View Post
    **** i am getting cyber bullied .
    No, you're just getting an online education. It's growing in popularity, after all, so might as well.
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