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    Originally Posted by GeneralSerpant View Post
    Last election sucked considering the person that got less votes got into office. Kind of **** is that right?
    No offense, but I'd rather go by what the United States Constitution says is fair and proper.

    Edit: Your post may just be a toned down mockery of freppy, time for some shuteye. Tomorrow is debate night.
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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    No offense, but I'd rather go by what the United States Constitution says is fair and proper.

    Edit: Your post may just be a toned down mockery of freppy, time for some shuteye. Tomorrow is debate night.
    I don't think I have a problem with how it's set up.

    It's funny the text on militias put in perspective the dynamic between the populace, the state militaries, the federal military, and foreign ones and how each (of the domestic ones) are designed to prevent breach from either one in particular. eg: the fed would never be big enough to take down the states and militias together, and a single state under siege from like other states would have the militias and union support.

    With our voting system it's more like a vote with the representational body in form of state governments.
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    You called it last time, O. What’s your read right now?


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    Originally Posted by Lencho View Post
    You called it last time, O. What’s your read right now?


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    Originally Posted by Orlando1234977 View Post
    what the United States Constitution says is fair and proper.
    Ah yes, because the tax-evading slave-owning agrarian noblemen were known for being fair and proper
    I don't know either lol
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    How many of you old farts remember the 2000 election?

    Al Gore won the popular vote and it all came down to Florida where W's brother Jeb was governor. Gore demanded a recount where every "hanging chad" and "dimpled chad" punched on those poverty voting machines was scrutinized. Supreme Court got involved and it dragged on for a month until the ruling on the recount where Gore conceded. 271-266.
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    lol @ the radical mob thinking they can get away with this, like we're some 3rd world country.

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    How many of you old farts remember the 2000 election?

    Al Gore won the popular vote and it all came down to Florida where W's brother Jeb Bush was governor. Gore demanded a recount where every "hanging chad" and "dimpled chad" punched on those poverty voting machines was scrutinized. Supreme Court got involved and it dragged on for a month until the ruling on the recount where Gore conceded. 271-266.
    I do. kind of.
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    lol @ the radical mob thinking they can get away with this, like we're some 3rd world country.



    I do. kind of.
    Now Florida is gold standard system, under big Ron DeSantis.
    Yeah you were what, mid 20's? Like a black hole for me.

    I do remember it and 2004 though I wasn't that old and I was really surprised Bush won again.
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    Originally Posted by GeneralSerpant View Post
    Yeah you were what, mid 20's? Like a black hole for me.

    I do remember it and 2004 though I wasn't that old and I was really surprised Bush won again.
    Yeah, and I don't think I followed it at all, other than overhearing some comments at work. nocarecrew. And in the decade prior, I don't remember anyone on campus discussing politics, except for maybe a few nerdboys. Times have changed!
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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    Old fart crew. I remember. It feels like the same thing again.

    Never had any of these issues here in Canada and we always know the results of the election the same night. Americans are doing it wrong.
    We were looking like we'd get another clear result by the end of the night, and then everything magically stopped. Should be an interesting next couple of months while the im2manlys sort it out.
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    Originally Posted by -=FLEX=- View Post
    Old fart crew. I remember. It feels like the same thing again.

    Never had any of these issues here in Canada and we always know the results of the election the same night. Americans are doing it wrong.
    Definitely shades of 2000. If this does get dragged out then some people should be made aware it's not the first time and Gore the climate change crusader kept Dubya waiting nearly 40 days before conceding. That was ugly.

    At times like this their system looks flawed but ours is far from perfect. Canada is closer to getting it right. Over here they can still do the ol' bait and switch where someone wins the election and not even a year into a term there's a leadership spill with a challenge inside the party and suddenly someone else is running the country. It's happened four times here since 2010 and makes us look like bums. So I won't judge.
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    Holy parliamentary dynamics, Dominik.

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    Giuliani soldiering on with a press conference in the parking lot of Four Seasons TOTAL LANDSCAPING is the kind of comedy no one can write.



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    Giuliani soldiering on with a press conference in the parking lot of Four Seasons TOTAL LANDSCAPING is the kind of comedy no one can write.
    Well Trump did get 70 million votes, and I guess they're just the crowd that mails in their attendance.
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    the results were expected, of course everything immediately saw differently. But in the end everything became as it should be
    Red, we'll see what the count is after the courts throw out all the needed manufactured ballots produced in Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Detroit, Milwaukee, Atlanta among of things.

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    Crazy how the right is fine with the results of the senate and house, but not the presidency. On the same ballot...…..


    Cause it makes total sense to rig the part of the election that doesn't matter. If the last 4 years have shown anything, it's that 100% of the power to get anything done involves the senate. Strong cope
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    Yeah, and I don't think I followed it at all, other than overhearing some comments at work. nocarecrew. And in the decade prior, I don't remember anyone on campus discussing politics, except for maybe a few nerdboys. Times have changed!
    Because real politics is supposed to be boring and people shouldn't care. Treaties and trade tariffs and whether the fed should adjust inflation because of inverse bond yield blah blah blah.....

    But at some point basic human rights became "political", along with stupid **** like what holiday greeting Starbucks is putting on their cups. This is why we can't have nice things.
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    Originally Posted by W8isGR8 View Post
    Because real politics is supposed to be boring and people shouldn't care. Treaties and trade tariffs and whether the fed should adjust inflation because of inverse bond yield blah blah blah.....

    But at some point basic human rights became "political", along with stupid **** like what holiday greeting Starbucks is putting on their cups. This is why we can't have nice things.
    Well I think he's pretty pin point on that. This whole thing started with politicians and commercial markets catering to progressive interests when social media became a huge prospect. The order for that came from undergrads who were making pipe bombs of accountability online. National corporations couldn't be seen stepping on any culture's feet and also took to a lot of inclusive marketing.
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    Well I think he's pretty pin point on that. This whole thing started with politicians and commercial markets catering to progressive interests when social media became a huge prospect. The order for that came from undergrads who were making pipe bombs of accountability online. National corporations couldn't be seen stepping on any culture's feet and also took to a lot of inclusive marketing.
    I have zero belief that anything coming from a corporation is heartfelt and altruistic. I do believe that it's long overdue that we just be nice to people and take a minute to consider others before we say or do things. Pretty low ask on the basics of humanity if you ask me.
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    Strong cope
    Not as much as four years hearing about "Russian collusion" that proved nothing besides being funded by the trusty clinton foundation.
    Based on what we know from the roots of the radical mob, there's likely a strong case. But the 100s of witnesses aren't going to reveal evidence to the media for us to speculate on and put them at risk of harm, that goes to the judges.

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    at some point basic human rights became "political"
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    Originally Posted by W8isGR8 View Post
    I have zero belief that anything coming from a corporation is heartfelt and altruistic. I do believe that it's long overdue that we just be nice to people and take a minute to consider others before we say or do things. Pretty low ask on the basics of humanity if you ask me.
    I recognize a lot of smarter leftists that are skeptical of commercial progressivism. I think I understand it's regarded as hollow or exploitative, but I think you should expect a certain level of that as a general facet of society in which markets follow after.

    Anyways, I was more getting at the radical right in terms of gamergaters, 4chan I guess, and the overall rise of antiestablishmentarianism mostly spearheaded by Trump's birther movement. A lot of people to the likes of that and mainly business conservatives really felt a good deal of unethical commercial schilling for essentially political persuasion. I'm fairly certain that Bernie Sanders mainly became more popular after Trump, but that might have just been a natural course following social media proliferation as I was talking about.

    Really I think the PC part has been pretty suitably tied down, even if mainly by the right mainly adopting it as a strategic rebuttal to the awareness of systemic racism factors.
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    Originally Posted by GeneralSerpant View Post
    I recognize a lot of smarter leftists that are skeptical of commercial progressivism. I think I understand it's regarded as hollow or exploitative, but I think you should expect a certain level of that as a general facet of society in which markets follow after.

    Anyways, I was more getting at the radical right in terms of gamergaters, 4chan I guess, and the overall rise of antiestablishmentarianism mostly spearheaded by Trump's birther movement. A lot of people to the likes of that and mainly business conservatives really felt a good deal of unethical commercial schilling for essentially political persuasion. I'm fairly certain that Bernie Sanders mainly became more popular after Trump, but that might have just been a natural course following social media proliferation as I was talking about.

    Really I think the PC part has been pretty suitably tied down, even if mainly by the right mainly adopting it as a strategic rebuttal to the awareness of systemic racism factors.
    The rise of Bernie from my viewpoint has been one in which millions of people have been fed up with conservative myths about economics and how decades of shoving MORE money into the hands of rich people has yet to "trickle down". Top that off with outrageous cost of living increases compared to wage stagnation and it's pretty clear. When you have people with multiple degrees working a third job as an Uber driver while sharing a 4 bedroom house with 5 other people it becomes pretty hard to support the current method of capitalism.
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    Originally Posted by W8isGR8 View Post
    The rise of Bernie from my viewpoint has been one in which millions of people have been fed up with conservative myths about economics and how decades of shoving MORE money into the hands of rich people has yet to "trickle down".
    Trickle down though was always more of a party favor thrown in when all people are there for is competitive prices and more consumer choices. It's just about less government overall, which is pretty mainstay either way.

    Top that off with outrageous cost of living increases compared to wage stagnation and it's pretty clear. When you have people with multiple degrees working a third job as an Uber driver while sharing a 4 bedroom house with 5 other people it becomes pretty hard to support the current method of capitalism.
    Yeah but much of what Sanders was going on about was pretty conventional rhetoric in other developed countries with a socialist party. People treated what he said as revolutionary when it's really just a matter of America in particular having state communism as the rival team.
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    Fair point though yeah Bernie did appeal to a lot of conservatives.
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    1. Replacing an old fart with another old fart won't achieve much in 4 years no matter how inspiring the speeches are.

    2. Wealthy celebrities living in gated communities completely detached from reality need to stop preaching already. Take NBA commissioner LeBron James who's happy to use his platform to take aim at low hanging fruit like Donnie T but his silence is deafening on China.
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    Yeah Biden's pretty much a general president like Washington or Grant. Won't make it more than one term.
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