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    And has their camera on with a close up of their nose hair. We should be able to televise their execution.
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    Luckily we no longer use the video feature, so meetings are a good time to prepare meals/grill.

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    So incredibly impressive. Few people know how hard it is to get to 605 let alone this
    You have to try super super hard to lift it up.
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    Watched it live and once again, aside from a broken blood vessel in his calf, it was a freakin piece of cake. Either he is a master of masking his strain or 520 is going to happen sooner that expected. I’m in awe of what he can do.
    Since the risk of injury at that level is so high he definitely did the right thing calling it there. It also leaves the door open to financial incentives down the road to break it.

    To my eye I think he was good for maybe another 5kg on the day and maybe a 510kg pull 2 weeks earlier in training with the music hyping him up but it'd probably be a grind which he wants to avoid. A lot of people seem to be forgetting he did this without a crowd.

    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    So incredibly impressive. Few people know how hard it is to get to 605 let alone this
    While it's taken him 10 years to reach this point I've been following every video of his preparation over the last 6 months and he's been extremely professional. Most people would struggle to stick to the 10,000 calorie "vertical" diet which is mainly steak and rice and mass gainer shakes.

    Easily the biggest ROM of any deadlift I've seen too. Pulls it a mile.
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    Australia had 24 new cases today. That's less than manly's parking lot. Helmetless rugby kills it. Or maybe a kangaroo belly kick.
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    Australia had 24 new cases today. That's less than manly's parking lot. Helmetless rugby kills it. Or maybe a kangaroo belly kick.
    Over the past couple of weeks I've heard the police chopper hovering for extended periods of time at night and I'll bet they're using the infrared camera to spy on parks, rooftops, balconies, and backyards for gatherings of people. Fines here are $1330 per person not to mention other infringements that can be issued when they show up so it's a nice little earner for them. It's hard for a virus to spread when everyone is at home.

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    The record that almost never was. Check out that '09 form. Many backs wouldn't survive.



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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
    Over the past couple of weeks I've heard the police chopper hovering for extended periods of time at night and I'll bet they're using the infrared camera to spy on parks, rooftops, balconies, and backyards for gatherings of people. Fines here are $1330 per person not to mention other infringements that can be issued when they show up so it's a nice little earner for them. So it's hard for a virus to spread when everyone is at home.
    This sort of Big Brother level of government oversight is disturbing. I'd like to say that I could never imagine them trying or getting away with that here, but frankly I can see the day coming. And it's pretty clear that governments are using this as an opportunity to increase control / dependency. For example contact tracing / GPS tracking, lockdowns and rules which really only need to apply to population dense areas being applied to rural areas with very little issues, etc.

    I wonder if these big stimulus packages to give people checks could wind up turning into higher taxes and government provided basic income. And you just know that the "universal healthcare" argument will come up yet again.

    Ironically, there is a lot of talk about more border control and decreasing dependency on China. Should be amusing to see how the Democrats are going to swing their stance around to stuff Trump was already doing...
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    The record that almost never was. Check out that '09 form. Many backs wouldn't survive.



    What a trainwreck.

    Wow, what a mess that used to be. Are you familiar with his coaching staff? Are they well known?
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    Originally Posted by Ctrainer View Post
    Wow, what a mess that used to be. Are you familiar with his coaching staff? Are they well known?
    He was discovered in a gym by Magnus Ver Magnusson who won World's Strongest Man 4 times. He was always very technical so he wouldn't have let him lift like that for long. He's also good friends with Stefan Solvi Petursson who competed in WSM. Both those men were there for the 501. Magnusson was the referee.

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    The deadlift looks like such a simple lift but obviously a lot can go wrong especially approaching maximal weights. Unless someone is perfectly built for them, outside of PL I'd never recommend pulling a barbell from the floor with a conventional stance unless it's a moderate weight for sets of 5 ideally with someone keeping an eye on their form.

    Most lifters should pull off bumper plates or blocks that elevate the bar 2-4 inches, or even better use a trap bar, or focus more on RDLs with strict form. It all comes down to risk vs. reward. Some people will stubbornly grind away playing Russian roulette with their lower spine. Sometimes sh*t happens and it's unavoidable but if there are safer options for similar results then people should take advantage of them.
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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
    He was discovered in a gym by Magnus Ver Magnusson who won World's Strongest Man 4 times. He was always very technical so he wouldn't have let him lift like that for long. He's also good friends with Stefan Solvi Petursson who competed in WSM. Both those men were there for the 501. Magnusson was the referee.

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    The deadlift looks like such a simple lift but obviously a lot can go wrong especially approaching maximal weights. Unless someone is perfectly built for them, outside of PL I'd never recommend pulling a barbell from the floor with a conventional stance unless it's a moderate weight for sets of 5 ideally with someone keeping an eye on their form.

    Most lifters should pull off bumper plates or blocks that elevate the bar 2-4 inches, or even better use a trap bar, or focus more on RDLs with strict form. It all comes down to risk vs. reward. Some people will stubbornly grind away playing Russian roulette with their lower spine. Sometimes sh*t happens and it's unavoidable but if there are safer options for similar results then people should take advantage of them.
    I watched Magnus compete many times. Strongman comps were always my favorite to watch. I love the Atlas stones.
    I’ve read that many times about conventional. I prefer to lift conventional but I’m not pulling really any weight, I stay in the 150-175lbs range. I always remember the cues from the guy who taught me how to DL, hips over the bar, drag the calves. If I want to pull heavy, I do rack pulls from right below my knees. Then I’m good for 225-250. I can’t pull Sumo, it’s just feels too weird
    Right now, without the gym, I just use my sandbags. I have a 50 and a 35.
    Hopefully, gyms will be open in a June but who knows.
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    I found this pretty interesting. The data table within the midsize segment of US sales from the 1st quarter:

    1. Camry 77,188
    2. Altima 47,346
    3. Accord 47,125

    That's quite a lead. Looks like the cvt's can't compete with king kam.
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    It's been over 10 years since I helped anyone with training so it's been interesting to witness beginner gains again specifically +90lbs on a deadlift 5RM in 6 weeks. I love seeing it but I explained linear progression like that is unsustainable and if it continued like that for another year he'd be pulling 1000 for reps. He asked why and I cited injuries, genetic ceiling/natty limits for a given weight, burning out, loss of motivation, the list goes on.

    A great photo to put that in perspective is the one of Thor after his 501kg lift. The bar is loaded with 25kg plates. At the end of 2009 he could pull 6 of those plates with horrible form. It took him another 10 years to add another 3 more 25kg plates a side and a little change to that bar — and that's 10 years with incredible genetics and the best training, nutrition, supplements, etc. 5 years to add another 25kg plate after hitting 450kg.

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    I love seeing it but I explained linear progression like that is unsustainable and if it continued like that for another year he'd be pulling 1000 for reps.
    Yep; it's depressing. LOL.

    First time I ever tried deadlifts I pulled 315. Within a month 405, within 6 months 500. Then it took me 5 years to get from 500 to 600 and in the 5 years since then the best I've ever done is 615. Barely missed a 635 attempt a little over a year ago.

    So yeah almost 10 years to add 115lbs to my max deadlift. Natty thought. So there's that. Also I'm old AF.
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    Yep; it's depressing. LOL.

    First time I ever tried deadlifts I pulled 315. Within a month 405, within 6 months 500. Then it took me 5 years to get from 500 to 600 and in the 5 years since then the best I've ever done is 615. Barely missed a 635 attempt a little over a year ago.

    So yeah almost 10 years to add 115lbs to my max deadlift. Natty thought. So there's that. Also I'm old AF.
    Most people will never pull 500 but it's easy to think at the noob stage you're going to smash it. You've been at it for a very long time and the longevity aspect of this is something most lifters <25 simply can't appreciate yet.
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    Luke Stoltman just attempted to break Big Z's log press record... with Big Z as the referee.



    Savickas has held the record in the log press for 15 years now, breaking his own records along the way. That has to be one of the most impressive achievements in strength sports.

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    Most people will never pull 500 but it's easy to think at the noob stage you're going to smash it. You've been at it for a very long time and the longevity aspect of this is something most lifters <25 simply can't appreciate yet.
    Agreed, some people have a natural limit. Probably most. Things can change the limit, gear ( the kind you wear and the kind you take) but the limit exists.
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    I found this pretty interesting. The data table within the midsize segment of US sales from the 1st quarter:

    1. Camry 77,188
    2. Altima 47,346
    3. Accord 47,125

    That's quite a lead. Looks like the cvt's can't compete with king kam.
    That's very interesting. I'm surprised the Altima and Accord are so close as well; I would have assumed Honda > Nissan.
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    That's very interesting. I'm surprised the Altima and Accord are so close as well; I would have assumed Honda > Nissan.
    Especially since the nissan transmission is the basis of so many lawsuits and the accord apparently offers some manual trims.
    I would think the Mazda has the best non-luxury midsize, but they're at the bottom of US sales numbers.
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    Especially since the nissan transmission is the basis of so many lawsuits and the accord apparently offers some manual trims.
    I would think the Mazda has the best non-luxury midsize, but they're at the bottom of US sales numbers.
    + so funny how the base accords goes to a 1.5 turbo and cvt all in the name of efficient mpg power, and still falls short to king cams 2.5 8 speed auto in both HP and MPG. We all know adding all the special technology adds to an increased probability of breakdown for a daily driver vehicle. But I'll give honda a break on the engine, as they probably make the best overall engines in the world. Honda lovers would best be served by opted for the standard tranny though.
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    Strong thread. Has there been any protests in any of your towns/cities/villages?
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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    Strong thread. Has there been any protests in any of your towns/cities/villages?
    30,000 here yesterday. I hate racism, I support the message, but not the timing — it's far too soon to ignore social distancing rules. The government is obviously terrified of being perceived as racist by blocking these protests so they rolled over and granted an exemption.

    We've all been holed up for 3 months, no large gatherings, no sport, no gym, etc. and that all goes out the window for a day. Protest online through social media or if protesting outdoors is something you feel that strongly about then agree to self-quarantine for 14 days. We've been fortunate to get on top of this pandemic but that could quickly turn around. To me it's selfish to be doing this right now.

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    Originally Posted by Dominik View Post
    30,000 here yesterday. I hate racism, I support the message, but not the timing — it's far too soon to ignore social distancing rules. The government is obviously terrified of being perceived as racist by blocking these protests so they rolled over and granted an exemption.

    We've all been holed up for 3 months, no large gatherings, no sport, no gym, etc. and that all goes out the window for a day. Protest online through social media or if protesting outdoors is something you feel that strongly about then agree to self-quarantine for 14 days. We've been fortunate to get on top of this pandemic but that could quickly turn around. To me it's selfish to be doing this right now.

    That's a legit concern, Dom. Is police brutality an issue over there by you? I assume it may be a bigger issue for aboriginals?

    Also, not sure if I mentioned, but our third child was born a couple weeks ago. I forgot about the insane lack of sleep-- which is much worse for my wife. But now we are out numbered lol
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    I wanted to add, maybe this is the conservative in me, but I am not a fan of all the exceptions we are making for the George Floyd incident.

    Mr. Floyd had a funeral. My wife's grandfather died a couple weeks ago but we couldn't have a funeral due to COVID. How come Mr. Floyd gets a funeral but my wife's grandpa doesn't?

    Also, are we no longer doing the social distancing thing? Seems like police are trying to be more like friends than police. Doesn't work. It's like when parents try to be friends instead of parents
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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    That's a legit concern, Dom. Is police brutality an issue over there by you? I assume it may be a bigger issue for aboriginals?
    Absolutely. That's what they've been protesting and they're effectively piggybacking off protests in the US to take advantage of all the emotion that has been stirred up this past week and it gets more attention. I don't know what it's like to be a black American or an indigenous Australian. I can't even pretend to understand the discrimination they face every day. So I absolutely sympathize with anyone who's hurting right now but I just don't think we should be out there ignoring social distancing rules in large numbers.

    Pubs and gyms have reopened but only for 20 people at a time and you've got to book those time slots. Everything is recorded. If there's an outbreak, a cluster somewhere, then they can try to confine it by notifying all those people. But how do you do that with 30,000 people who just randomly showed up? There is a "Covid safe" phone app to track movements but it'd only be effective if they all used it and let's face it 30,000 people with even a handful of carriers in close proximity could easily fuk up all the hard work we've been doing for 3 months. The economy has already taken a beating and billions have been handed out to keep jobs and support those who are unemployed. A second wave in the coming months could make 2020 a complete write-off.

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    Also, not sure if I mentioned, but our third child was born a couple weeks ago. I forgot about the insane lack of sleep-- which is much worse for my wife. But now we are out numbered lol
    Congratulations. I'm really happy for you both. I know what that lack of sleep is like but the sh*tstorm eventually passes.

    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    I wanted to add, maybe this is the conservative in me, but I am not a fan of all the exceptions we are making for the George Floyd incident.

    Mr. Floyd had a funeral. My wife's grandfather died a couple weeks ago but we couldn't have a funeral due to COVID. How come Mr. Floyd gets a funeral but my wife's grandpa doesn't?

    Also, are we no longer doing the social distancing thing? Seems like police are trying to be more like friends than police. Doesn't work. It's like when parents try to be friends instead of parents
    Completely understand and you have every reason to be angry about that. These are challenging times however the worst thing we can do is turn on each other. We have to find ways to stay positive and come together on issues as complex as they are. It doesn't take much for politicians and the media to manipulate us for their own gain which are votes and clicks. I'm trying to stick to my rule of avoiding political news because you end up being triggered by things you can't do anything about. I get a few hours free mainly late at night and I want to use that time productively.
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    Thanks, Dom. As always, I really appreciate your detailed thoughts. I just gave our newest boy, Remington, a fresh bottle of boob milk pumped from earlier. Hopefully that buys us 3 hours.

    Because this is semi-anonymous and as I think the sleep deprivation is hitting, I just don't understand the end game for the protest. (In b4 Dinarldi) I am half latino so i understand the feelings. But you cannot legislate racism out of people's feelings. I mean all the cops with Mr. Floyd's incident have been arrested. What's left? Public awareness? We all at this point know there is some form of discrimination even if it can't be statistically proven. People are getting hurt. Business are getting looted. Just tell us what you want!

    Also, I am in NJ so still no gyms. I'm trying to do pushups with my kids on my back but its tough to maintain!

    It's tough though because even though if I am 1/2 Spanish, I am afraid that if i post about my thoughts, that liberals will make it cost my job. Talk about free speech smh
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    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    Thanks, Dom. As always, I really appreciate your detailed thoughts. I just gave our newest boy, Remington, a fresh bottle of boob milk pumped from earlier. Hopefully that buys us 3 hours.
    I wonder if BM mixed with formula would be the best of both worlds. Antibodies from the natural source plus the extended sleep from formula.

    Originally Posted by im2manly View Post
    It's tough though because even though if I am 1/2 Spanish, I am afraid that if i post about my thoughts, that liberals will make it cost my job. Talk about free speech smh
    A MasterChef contestant here used to post in the misc and his history came back to bite him. Of course he made it pretty easy for people to figure out who he was but it's still not a good idea to post anything that could impact your job. People these days seem to get off on being able to "cancel" someone.

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    Also, I am in NJ so still no gyms. I'm trying to do pushups with my kids on my back but its tough to maintain!
    They opened here a couple of days ago but you've got to book online and the gym is only open during staffed hours until about 8pm and sessions are limited to under an hour so you're gone before the next time slot starts. For the past year I've been training late and most of my workouts have been well over an hour. I shouldn't be complaining but for now training at home is still a better option for me.

    Edit: I've been getting some decent back exercises in but pressing has taken a back seat.
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    Strong thread. Has there been any protests in any of your towns/cities/villages?
    Of course miguel, this is an election year.
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    Of course miguel, this is an election year.
    We’ve had several here....and a girl
    (Black) suddenly remembered that she was disrespected by an employee (white) in a restaurant on campus that’s been on campus since the 1960’s. Five. Years. Ago. That and the city council meeting to discuss defunding the local police.



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    ^^^Not trying to make it too political or controversial but protesters need to re-evaluate their PR/marketing efforts. People, namely the people they are trying to convince, get too caught up with the slogans used to pay attention to the message. For example, "defunding the police" does not mean what most people think it means but it's hard to get past the slogan.

    I like to believe I am a pretty moderate conservative and an otherwise reasonable person. I think we can all agree on the ends (getting rid of police brutality) so let's use slogans, methods, and efforts that will most likely lead to achieving those ends... naturally this requires concessions from both sides on the means. At present, in my opinion, it feels more like a hostage negotiation or a "take it or leave it" situation
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