RANT: R.I.P. Tyrbolift

[Dominik]

This is the future with EV. Manufacturers will enable/disable features on a whim.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/merced...ion-in-its-evs

[GeneralSerpant]

This is the future with EV. Manufacturers will enable/disable features on a whim.

https://www.thedrive.com/news/merced...ion-in-its-evs

So I'm assuming it has to do with their warranty/servicing agreements and generally sustainable performance standards for their vehicles between settings?

[Dominik]

So I'm assuming it has to do with their warranty/servicing agreements and generally sustainable performance standards for their vehicles between settings?

"Honey what happened to the heated seats?"
"Sorry, I forgot to pay this month's subscription."

[GeneralSerpant]

The standard performance is probably on par with what you'd expect from other ev brands. They really do factor price into it.

[Orlando1234977]

Looks like Joko slipped into Australia and is going to play some tennis.

[im2manly]

Crazy that this is the same thread since 2016

[Dominik]

Looks like Joko slipped into Australia and is going to play some tennis.

What a difference a year makes. From being frogmarched out of the country to rolling out the red carpet. There will be a few fearmongering lunatics on the fringes baiting him into discussions about the past but the man is a mental titan solely focused on winning so I'm sure he will get the job done. Of course he won't forget what was done to him. The last 3 years exposed some serious nutjobs living among us. Feels good to be on the right side of history.

Crazy that this is the same thread since 2016

I remember when this thread was like a chat room. Anyway it's already 2023 here. How's everything going?

[GeneralSerpant]

Crazy that this is the same thread since 2016

Things took a downturn around when Putin invaded Ukraine.

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The last 3 years exposed some serious nutjobs living among us.

Yes and they have not gone away.

Happy New Year.

[Orlando1234977]

Feels good to be on the right side of history.

You were on point from day one on the topic. Happy New Year everyone.

[Dominik]

Yes and they have not gone away.

Happy New Year.

Happy New Year Flex. How's your training been going?

You were on point from day one on the topic. Happy New Year everyone.

US continues to enforce the c-jab entry requirement for international travellers so Djokovic still isn't allowed to compete in US tournaments.

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Happy New Year Flex. How's your training been going?

Still lifting 6 days/week but getting weaker every year.

Getting old sucks. Hit 55 this summer.

Had lots of issues with my back and hip in 2022; didn't do deadlifts for most of the summer. Hopefully I can get back to some decent lifts in 2023.

Wouldn't mind competing at some point again but I am just nowhere near platform strength right now.

[GeneralSerpant]

I got a solid 300 miles in November. 381 for March 1-30, slower times and shorter runs account for more demanding schedule, so it's fun to see it climb back slowly.

December I got some 10-20 miles less than November, but it's far better than the more restful months between March/November, which was my intent for this last month and ones to follow.

[Dominik]

Still lifting 6 days/week but getting weaker every year.

Getting old sucks. Hit 55 this summer.

Had lots of issues with my back and hip in 2022; didn't do deadlifts for most of the summer. Hopefully I can get back to some decent lifts in 2023.

Wouldn't mind competing at some point again but I am just nowhere near platform strength right now.

And Ken Block just died at 55. A timely reminder to live life to the fullest like he did.

I've been giving some thought lately to when strength starts to decline and how to come to terms with that reality and move into the next phase of trying to maintain and safely continue training hard so I appreciate you chiming in on it. How many are walking around at your age built like a brick sh*thouse? Even if there is some decline you've got to be proud of what you've done. Hope 2023 is a better year for you.

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And Ken Block just died at 55.

Never heard about Ken Block dying. Damn that's too young.

How many are walking around at your age built like a brick sh*thouse? Even if there is some decline you've got to be proud of what you've done. Hope 2023 is a better year for you.

Thanks.

Most people think I'm in my 40's due to still having all my hair, barely any grey, and my build. So there's that. Never had back issues in my life until 2 years ago and it gets better for a while then creeps back again. Very annoying.

[Dominik]

Never heard about Ken Block dying. Damn that's too young.

Snowmobile accident.

Thanks.

Most people think I'm in my 40's due to still having all my hair, barely any grey, and my build. So there's that. Never had back issues in my life until 2 years ago and it gets better for a while then creeps back again. Very annoying.

It's probably a good idea not to "let the old man in" as they say and avoid thinking about your age. Focus on getting the most out of your training and enjoying life.

This past year I found I'm responding to higher volume in the form of more sets. Rather than do 3-4 sets and move on to the next exercise I'll do 6-8, sometimes 10. I also like to set a timer around 3 mins with low-medium intensity training and use strict form. No maxing out on anything and always keep a rep in the tank so I'm not failing on any lift. Feels better that way.

[im2manly]

Snowmobile accident.

It's probably a good idea not to "let the old man in" as they say and avoid thinking about your age. Focus on getting the most out of your training and enjoying life.

This past year I found I'm responding to higher volume in the form of more sets. Rather than do 3-4 sets and move on to the next exercise I'll do 6-8, sometimes 10. I also like to set a timer around 3 mins with low-medium intensity training and use strict form. No maxing out on anything and always keep a rep in the tank so I'm not failing on any lift. Feels better that way.

Sorta like sheiko?

[Dominik]

Never had back issues in my life until 2 years ago and it gets better for a while then creeps back again.

Have you tried switching to trap bar deadlifts and RDLs instead of pulling a barbell from the floor?

Sorta like sheiko?

Never run a Sheiko program but I do remember hearing it was very high volume. I don't do anything resembling powerlifting these days and don't think I'm missing out on much. To me it's a young man's game when you've got plenty of time up your sleeve to recover from injuries and keep chasing big numbers. I train like a bodybuilder only with reasonably heavy weights. I never max out and the only time I go to failure is on high rep sets. For example I might do incline DB for 8 sets of 6-8 reps with 110 resting 3 mins then rest a couple of minutes longer and knock out a set of 20 with them. I gauge everything from warmups. If the weights feel light then I'll chase PRs otherwise concentrate on volume.

It's interesting when you approach diminishing returns. If 10-12 years ago was my peak then I was eating 3x as much and most of those calories came from junk food. I'm getting better results from fewer calories and eating a lot better. How about you?

[jaxqen]

Snowmobile accident.

It's probably a good idea not to "let the old man in" as they say and avoid thinking about your age. Focus on getting the most out of your training and enjoying life.

This past year I found I'm responding to higher volume in the form of more sets. Rather than do 3-4 sets and move on to the next exercise I'll do 6-8, sometimes 10. I also like to set a timer around 3 mins with low-medium intensity training and use strict form. No maxing out on anything and always keep a rep in the tank so I'm not failing on any lift. Feels better that way.

Just curious
I assume you train since at least 2005.
That's 17-18 years.
What does it mean "I respond to higher volume"
Do you still make muscle gains after such a long time of training?

[Dominik]

Just curious
I assume you train since at least 2005.
That's 17-18 years.
What does it mean "I respond to higher volume"
Do you still make muscle gains after such a long time of training?

Probably not but I'd say most people by this point have long since gone into a decline so simply being able to lift the same kind of numbers and maintain the same size is something I consider quite positive. I do think I could have benefited from training more like I do now years ago.

T levels typically decline from late 20s. Up against Father Time you're dealing with injuries, loss of tendon elasticity, and an uphill battle to maintain bone density, not to mention you'll typically have a lot more commitments in life, work, etc. to distract you from chasing your goals in the gym. So your training, diet, and mental approach need to all be dialed in the longer you train beyond your physical prime. Take Novak Djokovic as an athlete who was mentioned a few posts back. There is no way he's a better athlete today at 35 than his mid 20s yet he's still capable of playing at the highest level. I'm sure there are aspects of his training and diet which are better today than 12 years ago and with all that experience and perhaps a drop in the level of competition he's able to still be the best player in the world.

There's a gym I trained at in 2014 with a Precor shoulder press. Haven't found that machine anywhere else. Anyway I worked up to 110kg a side that year. 2015 I stopped going to the gym, trained at home, and 2016-2019 I didn't lift at all. I signed back up to a gym in 2019 and after a few months went back to that gym and 70kg a side felt heavy which was humbling. Today I'm pressing 110kg a side again and could probably do 6 plates for 3-4 reps. Am I at my strongest? Surely not far off and with a much cleaner diet. I'll take it.

[GeneralSerpant]

I heard free weights recruit more muscle fibers.

[GeneralSerpant]

What I was actually curious about was what kind of a factor muscle memory plays in your retraining efforts. Not to dictate science over your experience, but I’ve seen a number of people agree with the idea that a lot of the hard work is in actually creating the muscle cells, while the swelling and the growing is quite temporal in the grand scheme of things.

[Orlando1234977]

2016-2019 I didn't lift at all.

What I was actually curious about was what kind of a factor muscle memory plays in your retraining efforts. Not to dictate science over your experience, but I’ve seen a number of people agree with the idea that a lot of the hard work is in actually creating the muscle cells, while the swelling and the growing is quite temporal in the grand scheme of things.

That's about the same time frame for me as well. 3-4 years off. This month should mark the two year anniversary of my muscle memory revenge tour. Been training pretty consistently, but maybe not quite as hard as earlier years. Lifts definitively still aren't where they were prior but probably not too far off. My bigger accomplishment fitness wise in '22 was dropping 20~ lbs without intense cardio or on a diet. Probably based on:

1. Weight training (primary mission is muscle, fat loss after thought)
2. Walking 3-4 miles/day (primary mission is mind relaxation as that's when I seem to develop the best sales tricks, fat loss after thought)
3. Preparing my meals at home instead of 10-15 fast food trips/wk (primary mission is time preservation as last feb I got so sick of wasting 40 minutes every time I got a little hungry and needed to throw down a couple big macs. Fat loss after thought.)

#3 is probably the biggest reason.

GS-muscle memory plays a pretty big factor.

[Dominik]

I heard free weights recruit more muscle fibers.

Machines can be very effective at targeting muscles even past the point where fatigue would compromise resistance and safety with a barbell or DB which is why bodybuilders use them. I don't do any freeweight exercises for shoulders these days (aside from a brief stint in the garage during lockdowns) and I'd be happy to compare them to any natty lifter. Most of it is seated smith machine OH press, Precor or Hammer Strength, and cable laterals. While my favorite back exercise is barbell rows I do a lot of seated row and lat pulldown. Machines have their place. Look at strongman Brian Shaw's home gym. It's full of machines.

14:25

That's about the same time frame for me as well. 3-4 years off. This month should mark the two year anniversary of my muscle memory revenge tour. Been training pretty consistently, but maybe not quite as hard as earlier years. Lifts definitively still aren't where they were prior but probably not too far off. My bigger accomplishment fitness wise in '22 was dropping 20~ lbs without intense cardio or on a diet. Probably based on:

1. Weight training (primary mission is muscle, fat loss after thought)
2. Walking 3-4 miles/day (primary mission is mind relaxation as that's when I seem to develop the best sales tricks, fat loss after thought)
3. Preparing my meals at home instead of 10-15 fast food trips/wk (primary mission is time preservation as last feb I got so sick of wasting 40 minutes every time I got a little hungry and needed to throw down a couple big macs. Fat loss after thought.)

#3 is probably the biggest reason.

That's great to hear. I like driving for an hour every night to relax the mind. Walking would obviously be healthier but I'm not a fan of treadmills and I have a few concerns about being out late at night so I just throw in extra gym sessions instead. Not for my own welfare but if I'm picked up on CCTV somewhere near a crime scene, etc. it's just not something I want to deal with. Years ago when I was living in a city apartment the guy across the hall had a weight problem so I'd walk 2-3 hours with him a few nights a week finishing with a few sprints up the cliffs overlooking the city and it felt good.

You're spot on about diet. I think I told you, 5 years ago I cut out McDonalds, KFC, and a few others. Also cut out caffeine. I've got a strict rule with the new car not to eat in it so no drive thrus. If I grab a pizza or burgers I'll drive somewhere and get out of the car to eat and when I eat that stuff I have to train afterwards. Preparing most of your meals is definitely the way to go. It takes a lot of discipline but as you've discovered it's worth it.

[Dominik]

Seated smith press is a staple in Savickas' shoulder training which I didn't know until recently but it obviously worked for him.

0:55



Hang in there for 3:15...



I met the big fella back in 2009. He won WSM that year and a few months after this.

[GeneralSerpant]

Machines can be very effective at targeting muscles even past the point where fatigue would compromise resistance and safety with a barbell or DB which is why bodybuilders use them. I don't do any freeweight exercises for shoulders these days (aside from a brief stint in the garage during lockdowns) and I'd be happy to compare them to any natty lifter. Most of it is seated smith machine OH press, Precor or Hammer Strength, and cable laterals. While my favorite back exercise is barbell rows I do a lot of seated row and lat pulldown. Machines have their place. Look at strongman Brian Shaw's home gym. It's full of machines.

For hypertrophy reasons, it seems more than suitable. It makes sense now that you were kind of measuring your horsepower output and not just your max with regard to strength achievement.

[GeneralSerpant]

That's about the same time frame for me as well. 3-4 years off. This month should mark the two year anniversary of my muscle memory revenge tour. Been training pretty consistently, but maybe not quite as hard as earlier years. Lifts definitively still aren't where they were prior but probably not too far off. My bigger accomplishment fitness wise in '22 was dropping 20~ lbs without intense cardio or on a diet. Probably based on:

1. Weight training (primary mission is muscle, fat loss after thought)
2. Walking 3-4 miles/day (primary mission is mind relaxation as that's when I seem to develop the best sales tricks, fat loss after thought)
3. Preparing my meals at home instead of 10-15 fast food trips/wk (primary mission is time preservation as last feb I got so sick of wasting 40 minutes every time I got a little hungry and needed to throw down a couple big macs. Fat loss after thought.)

#3 is probably the biggest reason.

GS-muscle memory plays a pretty big factor.

I'm getting all squats, dl, and leg press in a single day of training. Sometimes a single session. I try to train lower body as much as I train upper body, though I'm not sure how to factor in all the rowing in as leg training. Maybe like 10-15%? Anyways, from dedicated body areas, to 2-muscle group mix training, to full-body, I have a pretty steady juggle of upper/lower and push-pull along with cardio and core training.

[Orlando1234977]

I heard free weights recruit more muscle fibers.

Maybe a little off topic but one thing to keep in mind is the machines are much better nowadays. I'm 100% free weights since buying my equipment but a few years ago I noticed just how good some of the modern gym equipment is. I can't imagine free weights are much/if any superior. Getting to a gym in the winter is a hassle compared to when I lived down south, so I bought my own set up. If you forget to take off your snow boots the owners and dogs will beat your ass to next Sunday. Great ppl tho but too much of a hassle.

You're spot on about diet. I think I told you, 5 years ago I cut out McDonalds, KFC, and a few others. Also cut out caffeine. I've got a strict rule with the new car not to eat in it so no drive thrus. If I grab a pizza or burgers I'll drive somewhere and get out of the car to eat and when I eat that stuff I have to train afterwards. Preparing most of your meals is definitely the way to go. It takes a lot of discipline but as you've discovered it's worth it.

Great thing is I don't miss it or have cravings. Helps to be able to make a better burger and spaghetti etc than they can.

[GeneralSerpant]

Maybe a little off topic but one thing to keep in mind is the machines are much better nowadays. I'm 100% free weights since buying my equipment but a few years ago I noticed just how good some of the modern gym equipment is. I can't imagine free weights are much/if any superior. Getting to a gym in the winter is a hassle compared to when I lived down south, so I bought my own set up. If you forget to take off your snow boots the owners and dogs will beat your ass to next Sunday. Great ppl tho but too much of a hassle.

The ergonomics of the modern machines at my gym really promote full leverage. Spine straight and lats spread, they really are designed with olympic caliber movement in mind.

[ossizen]

I’m still around too.

I need to get back into lifting. Life got in the way.

I’m almost 50 myself.

Had to deal with Covid in September. It played havoc with my asthma. Not fun at all. I was sick for 2 weeks. And then I got the flu the week of Thanksgiving. I did test negative for Covid and RSV.

But on a positive note, I have no grey in my hair, save for my facial hair (coming in mostly white now).