RANT: R.I.P. Tyrbolift

[Dominik]

What an abomination.

I wonder which ones taste better. Costco's or the real deal.

[GeneralSerpant]

^^ Highly overrated you can hear the pretentiousness in his voice.

Costco is technically the biggest pizza chain in the United States. The main draw is actually just the price/convenience, not the quality. The hotdog soda combo has been the same $1.5 price since it opened in the early 80's.

[GeneralSerpant]

[Dominik]

Eating pizza in Italy ruined me. Only had one bad one in a tourist trap outside the Colosseum but aside from that I probably had another 15-20 and all were excellent.

Nothing here compares and the fast food version of pizza is truly garbage and that's coming from someone who's probably eaten as much of it as all the regulars in this thread combined.

I think the time has come to learn how to do it properly. Put a wood-fired oven in the backyard, make my own dough, and use only the best ingredients. Or move to Italy.

[GeneralSerpant]

Eating pizza in Italy ruined me. Only had one bad one in a tourist trap outside the Colosseum but aside from that I probably had another 15-20 and all were excellent.

Nothing here compares and the fast food version of pizza is truly garbage and that's coming from someone who's probably eaten as much of it as all the regulars in this thread combined.

I think the time has come to learn how to do it properly. Put a wood-fired oven in the backyard, make my own dough, and use only the best ingredients. Or move to Italy.

I've been genuinely curious as to what Naples or Sicily pizza is like. Though I also wonder how estranged American pizza has to be just because America. I think I had Wolfgang Puck pizza in Lake Tahoe. California Pizza there (he invented i'm pretty sure), but artisan nonetheless. My favorite local pizza where I live is a Sicilian style pizza, so I wonder what's lacking there. It's bread, sauce, and cheese. Wood-fired ovens aren't completely unheard of here.

x2 on building a backyard brick oven with fire kiln for pizza though.

[Orlando1234977]

I don't think he preemptively wrote that to spite your post above. Pabst has been known as a hipster beer for quite some time, I don't know when that began. I'm sure there are still simple lager drinkers, and that Blue Ribbon is their choice. It's just an overall beer market speculation.

The rise in Craft IPAs I believe has more to do with millennials entering the drinking market after which they've established their careers. That's not including people the same age that were drinking in high-school, and would continue this trend choosing two drink lagers with friends on sunny days and all day otherwise for that matter. It's a matter of pallet vs social application.

^^ Highly overrated you can hear the pretentiousness in his voice.

Costco is technically the biggest pizza chain in the United States. The main draw is actually just the price/convenience, not the quality. The hotdog soda combo has been the same $1.5 price since it opened in the early 80's.

You remind me of the typical trainee that never listens and then 3 months later, with the tears flowing, gets the standing ovation Bronx cheer as they're escorted out the door for not hitting quotas.

[GeneralSerpant]

You remind me of the typical trainee that never listens and then 3 months later, with the tears flowing, gets the standing ovation Bronx cheer as they're escorted out the door for not hitting quotas.

I'm just not willing to go to Italy just to try their pizza. All I'm asking for is a recipe for at home.

[Dominik]

I'm just not willing to go to Italy just to try their pizza. All I'm asking for is a recipe for at home.

Unlike Costco/Domino's/Pizza Hut/Papa John's slop it's not only following a recipe it's about sourcing the right ingredients and preparing them the right way. It starts with the dough and then stretching and kneading it to make the perfect base. San Marzano tomatoes. Buffalo mozzarella. Fresh basil. Quality olive oil that doesn't taste like Castrol. Wood-fired oven.

Make a pizza the right way and you don't need a metric fukton of "toppings" for flavor. It really is a shame they haven't got some kind of trademark on the word pizza so all this other crap would have to be called something else.

This is how real pizza is made.



This is how garbage is made.

[GeneralSerpant]

Unlike Costco/Domino's/Pizza Hut/Papa John's slop it's not only following a recipe it's about sourcing the right ingredients and preparing them the right way. It starts with the dough and then stretching and kneading it to make the perfect base. San Marzano tomatoes. Buffalo mozzarella. Fresh basil. Quality olive oil that doesn't taste like Castrol. Wood-fired oven.

Make a pizza the right way and you don't need a metric fukton of "toppings" for flavor. It really is a shame they haven't got some kind of trademark on the word pizza so all this other crap would have to be called something else.

Well exact sourcing of the ingredients is a bit hardcore, but I follow your point of accenting the flavor of the generic parts on a micro level. Also, I'd think that you can always make substitutions for sourcing, though I think it's probably not necessary considering the world market of foods.

Kerrygold butter is directly from Ireland I believe and churned from grass-fed cows no less. I don't get how that small island feeds the world, I'd think the nitrogen from the cows would ground the place.

Fun fact I actually did work at a micro Pizza Hut one time, and yeah that's the kitchen alright. I also worked at a prominent local Pizza shop downtown, with the cooks spinning the dough and what not. I'm willing to call it not Naples, but certainly more respectable than the chains you mentioned.

[Dominik]

Well exact sourcing of the ingredients is a bit hardcore, but I follow your point of accenting the flavor of the generic parts on a micro level. Also, I'd think that you can always make substitutions for sourcing, though I think it's probably not necessary considering the world market of foods.

Making the base from fresh dough right there and then tossing it in a hot oven is going to taste better than bases that have been sitting on a rack overnight Domino's style.

Those tomatoes make a big difference. It's fine to get them from a can and I'm sure most restaurants do to avoid any seasonal issues but it's got to be close to the real thing. Squirting sauce produced in large quantities from bottles won't compare.

Lastly you can taste the difference between buffalo mozzarella that looks like this...



...vs. shredded processed cheese that comes in large bags the fast food chains use to keep up with demand and keep costs down.



No comparison.

[GeneralSerpant]

Wait, so there's just no tomato sauce period, or are you implying that you have to make it? And yeah too much sauce is just disgusting. I'm sure people have a taste for it, but less is more with the sauce. As far as Costco is concerned, the sauce isn't so sweet, so that's a good, but I'd rather the more liquidity from the pizza be from pepperoni and cheese grease.

[Farley1324]

Happy Birthday to you
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Wood-fired Italian pizza for everyone.

And with that, I unsubscribe from the Rant

[Dominik]

And with that, I unsubscribe from the Rant

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O, last warning. Do not discuss it in this thread. No one wants it here and you already know my feelings on it and why it offends me. Persist and you know the next step.

[Dominik]

Some people deserve sh*t pizza. Complaining about the price after watching that. GTFO you savages.

[GeneralSerpant]

Well incomes are indeed higher in NYC.

[Orlando1234977]

And with that, I unsubscribe from the Rant

Too bad I never took you up on this bet uh? Some people never learn...

https://forum.bodybuilding.com/showt...#post938642503

[Orlando1234977]

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O, last warning. Do not discuss it in this thread. No one wants it here and you already know my feelings on it and why it offends me. Persist and you know the next step.

You'd feel different if you learned from the other side rather than lie upon lie, but you made it very clear you're not interested, you have your hobbies.

I've had a lot of pizza up here but not once from a slop shop like papa johns, dominos, costco, pizza hut etc.., a lot diff from fla. We have some of the best cheese and sausage, but I'd love to taste a pizza in Italia. I'll go soon.

Bucks with the blowout.

[GeneralSerpant]

Well I saw that Costco has buffalo motserella, so I'll be picking some of that up soon. I just gotta be confident in making the dough and sauce. I don't wanna do all this cooking research and select from countless internet recipes after I buy the dozen ingredients needed.

For tonight I breaded and fried large prawns. Flour-Egg-Bread. Buffalo sauce as needed. It holds up to buffalo chicken strips.

[Orlando1234977]

Well I saw that Costco has buffalo motserella, so I'll be picking some of that up soon.

From the store? lmao. Go to your family farm for your cheese needs.

[GeneralSerpant]

From the store? lmao. Go to your family farm for your cheese needs.

I considered this, but unfortunately I do not have a family with a Italian Mediterranean water buffalo on their farm, much less a family with any farms at all that I'm personally aware of.

[im2manly]

Going to take my son to see Marvel's infinity war this weekend. He'll be super excited

[GeneralSerpant]

Going to take my son to see Marvel's infinity war this weekend. He'll be super excited

I noticed when Black Panther's tickets were available for pre-sale, so I went ahead and snagged a ticket to get a seat I like. Feelin' good the next day or two, but then I look at the show time/date and it didn't come out for like a month and a half lol fuakr. Pretty much the same deal with Infinity War but I wasn't really caught off guard this time.

[Orlando1234977]

Hey Mark give me a pizza (3:36)

[GeneralSerpant]

Well that guy's pizza at least right there in the thumbnail, it looks like could have at least put the sauce and cheese more out to the edge. I don't wanna finish like 2 inches of crust.

[Dominik]

Hey Mark give me a pizza (3:36)

The man is living the dream.

[GeneralSerpant]

Dom do you have a taste for pepperoni at least?

[Dominik]

Dom do you have a taste for pepperoni at least?

On a cheap pizza sure. On a proper pizza like that? No. I pretty much ordered the same pizza lunch and dinner about 20 times which for the most part was sauce, cheese, and basil. Some had an extra ingredient which was usually olives, capers, or anchovies.

The most adventurous one was at Da Baffetto in Rome. Lined up for a while and they put you at a table with other people. Place was filled with photos of football stuff, photos of players like Francesco Totti dining there and with the owner who must be a big A.S. Roma fan. Anyway I just ordered whatever their signature pizza was and it had an egg in the middle of it. One of the people at the table was impressed with how I drank bottles of their local beer like water so he gave me a large bottle of his and left. All I remember is the pizza tasted great and I got lost walking back to the hotel because I didn't want to look like a tourist reading a map and ended up having to get a cab.

I've noticed looking at the reviews for some of these places that a lot of precious people don't like waiting and expect staff to be more polite. That's just the way it goes over there. They take pride in the food they make and that's all I care about. No one was rude to me but then not overly friendly either. And you have to line up or plan ahead and get there early.



One of my two favorite places in Florence, the other being Il Pizzaiuolo, had a menu that was all in Italian and the joint was hidden way down a back ally somewhere. Didn't see any tourists eating there, only locals. Food was great.



Finally eating a big bowl of pasta and this pizza in St Mark's square then taking a gondola ride around Venice at night was pretty special. I mean if you're going there you might as well go all in.

[EoR]

LTNS rant. Dom are you pulling 20 plates yet? I fired up up my journal again and I am starting to visit old hunting grounds. *marks territory* Do green, w8, aqua and the usual still hang about? I hope the title is not legit. :/

Anyway, another chicken chips packet has been opened.

[Orlando1234977]

I've noticed looking at the reviews for some of these places that a lot of precious people don't like waiting and expect staff to be more polite.

Pathetic. People like that is what gave the rise to the chain restaurant junk. How insecure would someone have to be to be concerned with how much the waitstaff kisses yer butt. And you're not going to die waiting for your table/food. And sometimes you have to pay more when the ingredients and supplies cost more. In fact, whenever the waitstaff is weird and overly friendly, I immediately begin to worry about food quality. Applebees/chillis/outback suk. If I want a steak, I'll go to a steakhouse. If I want pizza, I'll visit a pizza parlor, if I want seafood..., if I want BBQ..., if I want wings.... etc

[GeneralSerpant]

Pathetic. People like that is what gave the rise to the chain restaurant junk. How insecure would someone have to be to be concerned with how much the waitstaff kisses yer butt. And you're not going to die waiting for your table/food. And sometimes you have to pay more when the ingredients and supplies cost more. In fact, whenever the waitstaff is weird and overly friendly, I immediately begin to worry about food quality. Applebees/chillis/outback suk. If I want a steak, I'll go to a steakhouse. If I want pizza, I'll visit a pizza parlor, if I want seafood..., if I want BBQ..., if I want wings.... etc

Yeah but what if you want fried chicken? Not many options outside of fast food for that where I'm from.