!@!@ Alarming New STD Statistics *IMPORTANT Update 7/5* !@!@

[pogue]

There are some very alarming new statistics for people in the United States that have sexually transmitted diseases. In several recent news stories on CNN, it has been revealed that 1 in 4 women has genital herpes AND HPV (The Human Papillomavirus). That means "almost half of all women between the ages of 20-24 are infected by HPV." Both herpes & HPV are viruses and there is no cure for it once someone has been infected.

These increasing rates of these two extremely prevalent STDs are confirmed by various government agencies, including the CDC.

More Info

• Fact Sheet: Genital Herpes (CDC)
• Fact Sheet: HPV (CDC)
• Genital Herpes (Wikipedia)
• HPV (Wikipedia)
• FCIC HPV Fact Sheet

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CNN: Vaccine Uproar

Please be SAFE and use a CONDOM!

A recent study has confirmed the fact that wearing a condom during intercourse can help prevent the spread of HPV, contrary to popular belief. Condoms also help prevent genital herpes. According to the makers of Valtrex, the leading herpes medicine, they say "In fact, one study found that up to 70% of people who had herpes got it from their partner when their partner had no signs or symptoms of an outbreak." Source

Buy Condoms Online:

Amazon.com: Health & Personal Care - Male Condoms

Amazon - Female Condoms (Yes, there is such a thing!)

Planned Parenthood - Female Condoms

** Important Update on the use of Spermicide and HPV **

UPDATE 7/5/07: A new study has found the use of spermicide may increase the risk of infection of HPV, if either partner has it, during sexual intercourse. The study used nonoxynol-9, the most common spermicide on the market, which is sold as an ingredient in some lubricants, condoms, foams, and on it's own as a contraceptive aid. Another study conducted by The World Health Organization (WHO) showed that nonoxynol-9 also increased the risk of contracting HIV if either partner had it. Further, they reported that nonoxynol-9 does not provide any further protection against pregnancy than a regular condom. Many people are also allergic to this ingredient and its frequent usage may increase the risk for urinary tract infection in women.

However, the study did state that lubricants that contain carrageenan may help prevent HPV infection. Carrageenan is a polysaccharide (simple sugar) that is extracted from red seaweed. These lubricants are water based, so they can be used with a condom. However, I am not aware of any condoms that come prelubricated with carrageenan.

Spermicide enhances HPV transmission, tests show

Last Updated: 2007-07-03 15:58:30 -0400 (Reuters Health)

By Will Boggs, MD

NEW YORK (Reuters Health) - Animal experiments indicate that the spermicide contraceptive nonoxynol-9 (N-9) may promote genital infection with human papillomavirus (HPV), the virus responsible for causing cervical cancer, researchers report.

"The findings add to the growing list of why it is preferable to recommend alternative contraceptives to N-9 spermicides," Dr. John T. Schiller from the National Cancer Institute, Bethesda, Maryland told Reuters Health. "Others are that they are not particularly effective and may increase the risk of HIV infection."

As reported in the research journal Nature Medicine, Schiller and his associates used mice to investigate the effects of nonoxynol-9 and the vaginal lubricant carrageenan on genital transmission of HPV.

Both N-9 and an over-the-counter spermicide that contains 4% N-9 sensitized the genital tract to HPV infection, the researchers found.

In contrast, two commercial carrageenan-containing lubricants prevented detectable HPV infection.

"Because spermicidal activity of N-9 is retained in carrageenan-based gels, carrageenan might also be considered as a protective additive in over-the-counter vaginal contraceptives," the researchers suggest.

"We actually don't want to overly discourage the use of N-9 containing spermicides at this point, if a woman doesn't have other choices at hand," Schiller commented. "This is because unwanted pregnancy will be more of problem than unwanted HPV infection for most women."

SOURCE: Nature Medicine, online July 1, 2007.

Source: Reuters News

Roberts JN, Buck CB, Thompson CD, Kines R, Bernardo M, Choyke PL, Lowy DR, Schiller JT. Genital transmission of HPV in a mouse model is potentiated by nonoxynol-9 and inhibited by carrageenan. Laboratory of Cellular Oncology, Center for Cancer Research, National Cancer Institute, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, Maryland 20892-4263, USA. Nat Med. 2007 Jul 1.

Note: This thread is not meant to be used regarding the HPV vaccine debate that is currently going on. If you would like to discuss that, please visit the Relgion & Politics Section. That topic of discussion will be deleted from this thread.

Update 7/12/17 - I have subscribed to this thread, so if anyone posts to it with any questions - I noticed the last post was from 2008, so I guess not too many people are all that interested in it anymore - but if you are, I will get an email notification that you've posted and try to answer any questions anyone may have.

Also, please be aware of a new New Antibiotic Resistant Strain of Gonorrhea that is spread primarily via oral sex

[SFriday425]

That's terrible news. I just died a little.

Good info .

[Violator009]

Come on now, u know condoms dont protect against herpes, or mono.

[mASF]

There are some very alarming new statistics for people in the United States that have sexually transmitted diseases. In several recent news stories on CNN, it has been revealed that 1 in 4 women has genital herpes AND HPV (The Human Papillomavirus). That means "almost half of all women between the ages of 20-24 are infected by HPV." Both herpes & HPV are viruses and there is no cure for it once someone has been infected...

You do realize that condoms do nothing against HPV and Genital herpes right? How else do you think it spread so quickly?

Condoms are safe against bacterial infections (Gonorrhea, Chlamydia and Syphilis) they are pretty useless against viral infections such as Herpes and HPV. Besides HPV is nothing bad for guys, for women, they need to either take the vaccine when they are young or pap smears every 2 years.
Actually most people will get HPV at some point in their life... no biggie unless your a woman and the type of HPV strain you have is cancerous. Its scarry if you don't know much about these STDs. And actually most people recover from HPV after a few years, provided they lead a good, healthy lifestyle... Herpes is for life though.

Google it up...

Condoms also protect well against HIV and AIDS.

[RonaldMcDonald]

im actually scared to have sex now.

[NYY]

Well in that case, I'm happy to be a virgin.

[NosLliWhsoj]

Can I break the rules and use the S word? Please please please! Just this once, I swear. It 'so' needs to be said right now!

[Derk 5oFox]

it has been revealed that 1 in 4 women has genital herpes AND HPV (The Human Papillomavirus). That means "almost half of all women between the ages of 20-24 are infected by HPV."

1 in 4 close to half? Sounds a little closer to a quarter.

[damian001]

1 in 4 close to half? Sounds a little closer to a quarter.

He meant that 1/4 of every woman in the world has herpes/HPV. But most of that "1/4th" part is made up of women current aged from 20-24, which brings the "half" part.

[philhyp]

Yum, half the women in my age bracket have HPV.

Oh well, there's always MILFs... and junior high girls (no ****)

[EZ-Bar]

eewww damn guess im going to have to working on getting laid more now.

one night stands arent looking so appealing

[Fearless_]

Fu(k

[justsublime]

i think the fun is over... medicine needs to stop messing around and get the damn vaccines/cures!!

Its scary... get with 10 girls... think about your odds.....

thank god ive been tested clean, but i bet many misc'ers have had an outbreak of something

be safe...some random chick is not worth it

[BigDreams21]

damn

[Morbid_Mind]

I'm pretty sure there's a vaccine for HPV

The vaccine trial, conducted in adult women with a mean age of 23, showed protection against initial infection with HPV types 16 and 18, which together cause 70 percent of cervical cancers. HPV types 16 and 18 also cause anal cancer in men and women. The trial also showed 100% efficacy against persistent infections, not just incident infections. The vaccine also protects against HPV types 6 and 11, which cause 90 percent of genital warts. Women aged nine through twenty-six can be vaccinated, though the trial did not test minors

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV#Vaccine

http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/STDFact-HPV-vaccine.htm
http://www.cancer.gov/clinicaltrials...er-vaccine1102
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...toryId=7190905

I remember the religious right were quite opposed to the vaccine as they claimed it would "promote promiscuity among young girls"

On the other hand, some studies have suggested that regular condom use can effectively limit the ongoing persistence and spread of HPV to additional genital sites in individuals who are already infected (Moscicki 2005; Bleecker 2005). Thus, condom use may reduce the risk that infected individuals will progress to cervical cancer or develop additional genital warts. A 2006 study of 82 college students suggests that condoms can be up to 70% effective for preventing genital HPV infection if used for every sexual encounter (Winer 2006).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HPV#Condoms
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/hpv/WO00121

Mod Edit...

Thank you for your contribution, however, I again as that individuals refrain from turning this into a religious and/or political discussion.

Thanks,
pogue

Note: This thread is not meant to be used regarding the HPV vaccine debate that is currently going on. If you would like to discuss that, please visit the Relgion & Politics Section. That topic of discussion will be deleted from this thread.

[pogue]

You do realize that condoms do nothing against HPV and Genital herpes right? How else do you think it spread so quickly?

If you actually took the time to read my post, I posted a link showing a new study showing that condoms DO protect against HPV.

Other sexually transmitted infections may be affected as well, but they could not draw definite conclusions from the research they were working with. In particular, these include STDs associated with ulcerative lesions that may be present on body surfaces where the condom doesn't cover, such as genital herpes simplex (HSV), chancroid, and syphilis. If contact is made with uncovered lesions, transmission of these STIs may still occur despite appropriate condom use. Additionally, the absence of visible lesions or symptoms cannot be used to decide whether caution is needed.

Source

Again, in my above post, I showed a reference stating that the majority of people that transmit genital herpes have no signs of it when they transmit it to a partner during intercourse. That means that there are no lesions present.

Genital ulcer diseases can occur in both male and female genital areas that are covered or protected by a latex condom, as well as in areas that are not covered. Correct and consistent use of latex condoms can reduce the risk of genital herpes only when the infected area or site of potential exposure is protected. Since a condom may not cover all infected areas, even correct and consistent use of latex condoms cannot guarantee protection from genital herpes.

Persons with herpes should abstain from sexual activity with uninfected partners when lesions or other symptoms of herpes are present. It is important to know that even if a person does not have any symptoms he or she can still infect sex partners. Sex partners of infected persons should be advised that they may become infected. Sex partners can seek testing to determine if they are infected with HSV. A positive HSV-2 blood test most likely indicates a genital herpes infection.

Source

So, as originally stated, if a person has genital herpes and there obvious lesions present, then a condom will probably not help. However, again, according to a study presented by the makers of Valtrex, 70% of people who passed it on to a partner had no symptoms.

All of this information was present in my first post. If you wish to have a valid discussion with me regarding anything I post, please take the time to read what is posted first.

[user178944]

Frunkle

[pogue]

Can I break the rules and use the S word? Please please please! Just this once, I swear. It 'so' needs to be said right now!

S word?

1 in 4 close to half? Sounds a little closer to a quarter.

Watch the videos in my first post that I linked to on YouTube.

[NosLliWhsoj]

the SL word.

[guest89]

Damn, how will I ever bang a random chick again without "OMG please don't punish me" going through my head.

Seriously... Some disturbing stuff ehh?

[Rune44]

well if I'm a virgin and dont have herpes and she's a virgin (not sure if she has herpes) is it ok?

[KillahPriest]

well if I'm a virgin and dont have herpes and she's a virgin (not sure if she has herpes) is it ok?

yes

until she gets pregnant

[krogtaar]

this is why birth control pills were a bad idea...damn near everyone i know who has been dating for over a week start using the pill and no more condoms...

[chyeaaaa]

WTF! MY GF has cervical cancer.. just had surgery.. She said it does nothing to the guy? wtf! does this mean i deff have hpv?? wtff

[pogue]

WTF! MY GF has cervical cancer.. just had surgery.. She said it does nothing to the guy? wtf! does this mean i deff have hpv?? wtff

No, cervical cancer can be caused by many things, HPV is just one of the many causes of it. However, it is always important to be tested for STDs, so I recommend you both get tested - as everyone should.

[V8*workHORSE]

i shivvered reading this.... and still am

[pogue]

i shivvered reading this.... and still am

I'm not trying to scare anyone out of having sex. But, the simple truth is the statistics are very scary. It's frightening to think of having sex with someone and coming away with a life long disease that's incurable.

We all know that unprotected sex feels better, but it's just not good practice. Condoms are cheap, effective, and and easy to use. There are even now condoms starting to come onto the market that are thinner than ever before, yet still extremely strong. Here are a few examples:

Kimono Microthin Condoms - Full Listing of Kimono Thin Condoms
Okamoto Crown Condoms
Trojan Ultrathin Condoms
Durex Avanti Polyurethane Condoms
Full Listing of Thin Condoms on Amazon
Adam & Eve Ultra Thin Condoms from Japan

According to the Wikipedia, there are also "Invisible" and Spray-On condoms coming on to the market. Purportedly, the invisible ones protect against HIV and herpes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condoms#Materials

[BballBuilder]

Here's a little info on being tested.. thought it would be good..

Attending a GUM (Genito-Urinary Medical) Clinic
First things first
Every centre is different. Always ring in advance to check their opening times and to see whether you need an appointment or not.

How can they help?
Don?t be scared or embarrassed about going to a GUM clinic. A STI is an illness like any other. You?re looking after your body by going for a check-up. When you arrive at reception they?ll ask for your name, date of birth, address and the name of your GP. You don?t have to give your real name. Your GP is only contacted with your permission and nothing will be sent to your home unless you give permission. When you see the doctor, be honest about your sexual history as this will help them treat you - remember they are there to help, not judge.

What to expect
You can expect to be asked questions about what symptoms you have. Whether you have had any known STIs before and what treatment you?ve had, and if you are allergic to any medications? How many sexual partners you?ve had and when you last changed partners? What kind of sexual contact you?ve had with regard to high risk groups such as prostitutes, intravenous drug users and those from African or other countries? Whether oral or anal sex was also involved? You will be asked about your general health, medications, barrier methods of contraception and if you?ve ever used intravenous drugs or had a blood transfusion or travelled in Africa or Asia.

All these questions are asked so that the doctor will have an idea of how much risk you?ve been exposed to, what infections you are likely to have and where, and what the most effective treatment will be. Since some tests results take time to come back you may be started on treatment before these results are known.

Boys:

You will need to let a doctor or nurse examine your penis and genital area. They may ask you to provide a urine sample, a blood test or take swabs from inside the end of your penis or from skin lesions in your genital area or mouth if necessary, for testing.

Girls:

You will have to have an internal examination. If it?s a male doctor there will always be a female nurse present. If you?d rather not have a male doctor you can ask for a female doctor or nurse. They may ask you to provide a urine sample, a blood test or they may take swabs from inside the vagina or from skin lesions in your genital area or mouth if necessary, for testing. They might also ask if they could do a smear test if you are due for one or if a previous one has been abnormal. A smear test is only carried out if you are over twenty years old (procedures with respect to smear testing may vary between the different regions within the UK).

Did you know?
You can take a friend in with you if you want. All services are confidential even if you are under 16.

Follow up
It is important to take any medication as prescribed and if it is causing side effects, it is important to ring the clinic for alternatives. It is also important to attend for follow up appointments, not only to get results of tests but also to check that the infection has been cleared up. This is especially important in the case of Chlamydia infection where there may be no symptoms but where infection can cause infertility and future ectopic pregnancy due to tubal damage if not eradicated.

It is also important not to have sex until treatment is finished and until your partner has been treated, otherwise you may become infected again.

This brings us to the important point of tracing sexual partners. If you are diagnosed with a STI you will be given a slip of paper with a reference code on it. You should give this to all those whom you have had sexual contact with, usually in the preceding 3 months (your particular clinic will advise), so that they can be screened for infection and treated. If you do not wish to trace these contacts yourself, the clinic can do this if you give them their details. The code ensures that those whom the clinic contacts will not know your identity although the clinic will.

Attending your GP
Don?t be embarrassed about attending your GP about a possible STI. You will be seen in confidence. The questions and tests may not be as detailed as at the GUM clinic but will be similar. Not all GPs are equipped to diagnose and treat STIs especially if you are a male. They are also unable to trace contacts and so they may have to refer you or your partner to the GUM clinic at your nearest hospital.

[1/2man1/2amazin]

wow... good thing i bought a fleshlight

[jmonty]

another good reason to only make it with your spouse or yourself.