Has anyone here ran into an actual sociopath?

[-Lucifer]

Yeah. When I was about oh I guess 15.. it was sept of 2001.. anyways, often visited and stayed with my grandparents during the summer. They live on a pier and so it was much more fun. Their neighbor across the street was a single mom of 2 little girls. Seemingly nice woman. One night she came over and she was complaining about how she makes all this food and the girls wont eat it. Normal mom chatter. Anyways, later that night, the police showed up and ambulances and what not. I got out of bed, and overheard a police officer talking to my grandfather. He said they found two victims. (The girls) lying in their beds deceased.

Later it was known, she had fed them paint thinner and stabbed them each about 24 times. Before laying them back into their beds. 9/11 happened about 2 days later so the coverage was minimal. They were 6 and 8 I believe....

Her name was Tracy Cambern. Daughters were the sweetest little things you could ever meet.

Holy f**k. I hope they killed the kunt ASAP.

[xavengedx23]

Holy f**k. I hope they killed the kunt ASAP.

Did some detective work. She is serving life without parole. So creepy reading this.

"Tracy Camburn told them she had made her daughters ingest "paint thinner for dinner" before stabbing them, The woman said she had also swallowed some thinner, according to the affidavit. Asked if the paint thinner killed the children, "Tracy advised that 'No, I stabbed them also,"'

"The children's bodies were found lying side by side across a bed."

http://lubbockonline.com/stories/091...l#.Vxo0luaDGko

[motilynn]

Did some detective work. She is serving life without parole. So creepy reading this.




http://lubbockonline.com/stories/091...l#.Vxo0luaDGko

In a mental institution right? She still writes my G'ma.

[ANumber1]

Wait, what? Need more detail. How do you know her? what was she to you?

Family of a friend of a friend. People knew she had some "issues", but she concealed a great deal of it from others, including her own family (one side of which all plays the facts loosely with each other to conceal their patterns of behavior and convince people they're a decent family that just has a lot of tragedy - for instance, after one of the murders, people were told he died from "a drug problem", implying an overdose, but it turns out he was brutally murdered for stealing drugs) and it only became apparent how badly her brain actually worked over time. For example, that she was not avoiding steady employment because she had social anxiety, but that she was intentionally portraying herself as a helpless victim in order to maintain a parasitic lifestyle (one of the checklist items for psychopathy).

The last I heard about her, she was finally compelled to get a job working an entry-level job dealing with the public and had built a reputation as an incredibly sweet young woman. It was also brought to my attention that at the same time she's been earning tips with her sweetness, she's been posting anonymous angry, threatening, racist, multi-page rants toward strangers on the internet, including trying to bully a handicapped woman into committing suicide.

People are fuarking terrifying.

[IcePikachu]

Lol. I've heard of this before, brah (11 years ago). Back then I thought she killed her sister because she suspected her sister was sleeping with the guy.

That's the first time I've heard the riddle and got the answer right. Am I gonna make it? Anyone with lateral thinking could figure it out however.

I consider myself stoic, but not a sociopath so people might misinterpret the two. But people have said, "I seem like IDK about anything" and that," I'm smooth/slick." One time the topic of death came up and I said something like," Who cares? We are born and then we die. It's not sad it's just nature" and everyone bertstared me

[xavengedx23]

She still writes my G'ma.

Wtf? why?

Family of a friend of a friend. People knew she had some "issues", but she concealed a great deal of it from others, including her own family (one side of which all plays the facts loosely with each other to conceal their patterns of behavior) and it only became apparent how bad it was over time. For example, that she was not avoiding steady employment because she had social anxiety, but that she was intentionally portraying herself as a helpless victim in order to maintain a parasitic lifestyle (one of the checklist items for psychopathy).

The last I heard about her, she was finally compelled to get a job working an entry-level job dealing with the public and had built a reputation as an incredibly sweet young woman. It was also brought to my attention that she's been posting angry, threatening, racist, multi-page rants toward strangers on the internet, including trying to anonymously bully a handicapped woman into committing suicide.

People are fuarking terrifying.

____ /10 ?

[Psyllius]

I've met one. Was my roommate for a while. Worse person I ever met.

[Benny_Lava]

spoiler: this is how every human is. our sense of "empathy" is heavily socially influenced, every human action is guided by self-interest, srs. we just don't like to see it that way.

lol. right.



and everyone here has met a sociopath. they're hardly rare.

[motilynn]

Wtf? why?


____ /10 ?

Well, as I knew it. September 11th happened and they spun a good story about "God telling her" to do this because the end of the world was happening. Because of 9/11 her insanity plea went through and she was sentenced life in the institution but if a doctor deemed her well enough after 25 years, she would be free. My grandparents also knew their dad. Another sweet man, and Tracy still writes my grandma with only God knows what. .. they knew eachother for years. She doesn't open them. But she does get them.



You know how they do the Tulip Time in Holland? Well, he got the city to a couple streets after the girls. The entire festival is in their honor now. It raises money for Abuse against children.

[xRedStaRx]

Used to be a full-blown socio-path. Then fell for a girl. Turned out to be a sociopath. Now I learned to be normal.

Takes one to know one, in my case, to also stop becoming one. We do have feelings, sometimes very sensitive.

I remember I was at this party one time and this girl was asking people if they could answer this riddle correctly, they are a sociopath lmao. Here's the riddle:

While at the funeral of her own mother, this girl met a guy whom she did not know. She thought this guy was amazing, so much her dream guy she believed him to be, that she fell in love with him there, but never asked for his number and could not find him ... A few days later, the girl killed her own sister.
Question: What is her motive in killing her sister?

The sloot goofed that day and decided to get another shot.

[elterrible987]

No they can't.

lel, of course they can. you know how many serial killers had a 'normal' life with the wife and kids and then an entirely separate life

[xavengedx23]

Well, as I knew it. September 11th happened and they spun a good story about "God telling her" to do this because the end of the world was happening. Because of 9/11 her insanity plea went through and she was sentenced life in the institution but if a doctor deemed her well enough after 25 years, she would be free. My grandparents also knew their dad. Another sweet man, and Tracy still writes my grandma with only God knows what. .. they knew eachother for years. She doesn't open them. But she does get them.

God was telling her to feed her 2 kids paint thinner and stab them 24 times because the world is ending.

[motilynn]

God was telling her to feed her 2 kids paint thinner and stab them 24 times because the world is ending.

Horse sh!t isn't it?

[-Lucifer]

Did some detective work. She is serving life without parole. So creepy reading this.
http://lubbockonline.com/stories/091...l#.Vxo0luaDGko

Let her rot. I just hope she realizes what she has done and deeply regrets it for the rest of her life. Sadly, I doubt that will happen.

That's the first time I've heard the riddle and got the answer right. Am I gonna make it? Anyone with lateral thinking could figure it out however.

I consider myself stoic, but not a sociopath so people might misinterpret the two. But people have said, "I seem like IDK about anything" and that," I'm smooth/slick." One time the topic of death came up and I said something like," Who cares? We are born and then we die. It's not sad it's just nature" and everyone bertstared me

You aren't a sociopath or psychopath if you feel empathy. Also, psychopaths can understand what emotion means but they can't feel it. From what you've described, you seem normal to me.

[ANumber1]

____ /10 ?

9/10 in high school. She eventually went vegetarian and lost too much weight. Last time I saw her up close she had gone from "stacked slim blond with giant teddies" to "pancakes" and her face was starting to weather, presumably from her difficult, extremely intense lifestyle, but maybe from drugs. Who knows.

A few months ago, I did see her on the street, marching along rigidly in maximum biatch mode, chewing gum like she's been doing non-stop for about ten years. I ducked into a CVS because I didn't want her to spot me and somehow try to reengage or randomly target me for internet defamation because she started thinking about me again.

[PervedOut]

2 of my direct supervisors. Would srs sell their own mothers out if it netted them a dollar.

[Fearlessbanana]

I used to be one when I was on ritalin. Totally phucked in the head. Will type out stories tomorrow if I can remember

STROONG username to thread title relevance ratio. Stroong first reply.

[xavengedx23]

9/10 in high school. She eventually went vegetarian and lost too much weight. Last time I saw her up close she had gone from "giant teddy mode" to "pancake mode" and her face was starting to weather, presumably from her difficult lifestyle, but maybe from drugs. Who knows.

A few months ago, I did see her on the street, marching along rigidly in maximum biatch mode, chewing gum like she's been doing non-stop for about ten years. I ducked into a CVS because I didn't want her to spot me and somehow try to reengage or randomly target me for internet defamation because she started thinking about me again.

Wait, so did you have a good relationship with her? Dated at some point?

[JungleJenetics]

A lot of you guys who say they have these issues really dont unless youve been seeing a decent psych who evaluated you for a period of time. This is not some "goal" or something to aspire to be. ALSO all this stuff is a spectrum and you can be a sociopath/have sociopathic tendencies and it not be as severe as say other cases. It does not make you a bad or evil person inherently....especially if you recognize the tendecies.

I will never post very specific examples on this forum but there is a certain level of manipulation achieved when your mind isnt overflowing with different emotions and thoughts.

Edit: You can 100% feel/recognize empathy...especially if its a few significant people in your life. The catch is you still might end up doing some fukked up sh*t to those people without that much remorse at all.

[xRedStaRx]

You aren't a sociopath or psychopath if you feel empathy. Also, psychopaths can understand what emotion means but they can't feel it. From what you've described, you seem normal to me.

That is a misconception.

Edit: ^ cool we share the same sig

[ANumber1]

Wait, so did you have a good relationship with her? Dated at some point?

I don't want to be too specific. We never dated. We were friendly for a time because I knew the good/normal side of her family and I briefly got sucked into her vortex of drama, then extracted myself as diplomatically as I could.

You might be inclined to think that it's borderline or bipolar behavior, but I've seen enough to realize that she has control over it and makes deliberate, calculated decisions to use rage as a weapon to manipulate people and can stop the behavior on a dime. I've heard about a couple of police contacts where law enforcement believed the person who called out of fear was exaggerating because by the time they arrived, she was so calm and her victim was so distraught that they figured the victim was the crazy one and she was a simple, sweet young woman being harassed for no reason. I don't believe she experiences any true emotions. It's like dealing with a hologram of a person.

[hughaware1]

Yeah, I've known a sociopath before. Kid seemed real outgoing and likable on the outside. When you got to know him, however, you could see that he was incredibly manipulative and that he was always playing some kind of angle.

go into detail.

Anyway, growing up people seemed to think they could lie to me because I would nod my head and respond with a curious tone, suggesting I naively believed their stories. I vividly remember during one of my workouts, I met one guy who lied to me about how he excelled in boxing and fighting. He would randomly shadow box in front of the mirror with extremely terrible posture, to corroborate his story.

[hughaware1]

I don't want to be too specific. We never dated. We were friendly for a time because I knew the good/normal side of her family and I briefly got sucked into her vortex of drama, then extracted myself as diplomatically as I could.

You might be inclined to think that it's borderline or bipolar behavior, but I've seen enough to realize that she has control over it and makes deliberate, calculated decisions to use rage as a weapon to manipulate people and can stop the behavior on a dime. I've heard about a couple of police contacts where law enforcement believed the person who called out of fear was exaggerating because by the time they arrived, she was so calm and her victim was so distraught that they figured the victim was the crazy one and she was a simple, sweet young woman being harassed for no reason. I don't believe she experiences any true emotions. It's like dealing with a hologram of a person.

Wow can you go into detail? Did she spread lies about you to people who bought into her personality? Were people able to see through it, and how did it affect you?

[devin45k]

Stripper I used to bang in Reno.

- dead eyes
- makes up stories over an over to one up another person's story
- says anything to get attention from one person back to her.
- stays in contact with anyone I ever hungout with her present 6 years later. It's awkward because everyone else is like GTFO.
- Figured out she was married to some wealthy guy in Bakersfield
- She is still married and banging other people.
- Lies about illnesses all the time for attention. Especially her back. Every time she didn't have attention on her...some random illness popped up.
- Lied about her fake teddies all the time.
- One of the craziest people I have ever met.
- I don't know why I banged her a couple times. it was the most boring sex because she would make up back pain for sympathy. I also hooked up with her other stripper friend the day before we hooked up. She was fully aware of it too and got more thirsty.
- Vagoo was a box of cow tongues.

[ANumber1]

Wow can you go into detail? Did she spread lies about you to people who bought into her personality? Were people able to see through it, and how did it affect you?

To my knowledge, I haven't had a problem with her going after me. I want to keep it that way by avoiding the gaze of her Eye of Sauron. I did see incidents where I or someone else would mention something to her, and once she realized we knew what was going on and that she was pulling something, she would slip away and immediately start contacting people to establish an alternative explanation. In one instance, she actually ran out of a room "crying", locked herself in a bathroom, and when someone went to check on her, they realized she was in there making phone calls.

There are people who have been through some real hell because of her actions. In one case, she got into a long-standing feud with a woman who was supposedly taking advantage of her lonely father. One tactic she tried was to spread a rumor that this woman is a police informant and competing drug dealer who was responsible for some recent drug raids. She was actually trying, in her Wile E. Coyote way, to cause this woman to be violently murdered.

Most people only get a superficial impression of her and can't figure out how someone who seems so sweet and capable is having such a tragic life. It took me about five years to catch on.

[-Lucifer]

That is a misconception.

Care to elaborate? From my understanding, a psychopath is dead on the inside due to a malfunctioning part of their brain. Therefore all he can do is use people, suck them dry and then find a new victim to prey on. They don't feel empathy or remorse. I also thought they can't feel any emotion, whatsoever. Take Ted Bundy for example. He has been described as the 'coldest, most heartless SOB' ever. Only a person with no emotions could do what he did.


EDIT
They're also experts at faking and mimicking emotions.

[ralphplsgo12]

ex girlfriend. she could lie with a completely straight face, and could not understand why i was mad about it. skeezies gonna skeez

[ANumber1]

ex girlfriend. she could lie with a completely straight face, and could not understand why i was mad about it. skeezies gonna skeez

There's a story out there about a psychiatrist who, in the course of a study using his family's brain scans as a control group, discovered that he, himself, had the abnormalities typical of a psychopath.

Apparently, he was shocked, and when he told his family, they were just kind of like... "Yeah, we know."

Years earlier, he had taken his brother on some road trip in Africa and not told him that they were going to an area where there was an outbreak of a deadly disease and where a guy had recently been killed by wildlife. They ended up staying the night and his brother was terrified, waving torches around trying not to get eaten by lions while the psychiatrist slept, LOLing at what a loser his brother was for being so scared.

It's only now, the psychiatrist claimed, in retrospect, that he realized his brother being angry with him for taking him there was normal and that he was the weird one for his disregard for their lives and for not understanding what he did wrong.

[Starred]

I think I have

What you need to realise is these are not "emotionless" people in the patrick bateman sense. They're actually very charismatic and liked by near enough everyone, except for the people they know they can disrespect or people who are cynical of them

THey have no real friends but can be very popular so flit between groups. Eventually people dislike them, but by then they've moved onto another group

[ANumber1]

THey have no real friends but can be very popular so flit between groups. Eventually people dislike them, but by then they've moved onto another group

This. When the girl I was describing above met a guy who aspired to become a rapper (I know), she suddenly became a little hip-hop scholar in a matter of weeks so she could fit in with his friends. She also convinced him to let her "hold his paychecks" for him because he was "bad with money" and she needed to save it so they could get an apartment together.

You can guess what happened when she broke up with him, ostensibly because he drinks too much.

"What money?"