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    I'm still catching up on some draft prospects but right now here are my top 5s on guys I'd love for us to draft(will ignore guys I'm assuming will be gone before #31) and ignoring some positions I don't see us drafting.

    WR:

    1. Jalen Reagor
    2. Brandon Aiyuk
    3. KJ Hamler
    4. Denzel Mims
    5. Quartney Davis

    G/C:

    1. Lloyd Cushenberry
    2. Cesar Ruiz
    3. Matt Hennessy
    4. Tyler Biadasz
    5. Damien Lewis

    DE:

    1. Julian Okwara
    2. Terrell Lewis
    3. Bradlee Anae
    4. Josh Uche
    5. Darrell Taylor

    CB:

    1. Damon Arnette
    2. Trevon Diggs
    3. Cameron Dantzler
    4. Jeff Gladney
    5. AJ Terrell

    S: (probably the most top heavy position that may be a need for us)

    1. Xavier McKinney
    2. Grant Delpit
    3. Ashtyn Davis
    4. Antoine Winfield
    5. Kyle Dugger


    I see a lot of talent on that list that likely goes 2nd and 3rd round area...we're going to have to pull off some magic to get 2+ of those guys.

    From what I've seen so far WR and CB classes appear to be the deepest. CB of course is much harder to project than WR.


    Looking forward to the combine next week to see the athletic drills.

    IMO we have to find a way to get out of #31 unless Reagor or McKinney are there. Both may be long gone though when the draft comes. I've seen both mocked much higher but I've also seen them mocked to us or in the 2nd round so hard to say at this point.
    Combine starting up, still few days away before any of the drills but they're doing the QB, WR and TE measurements today - always funny to see how exaggerated the sizes of these guys are by their colleges.

    Some of the guys I'm really excited to see is the safety and corner group....the more I've been watching the corners my two favorite picks for us with our first pick would be the TCU guys - Reagor and Gladney but both could absolutely go off during the combine and both be off the board before 31 let alone us trading back to land either one.

    WR group will also be a ton of fun to watch. So deep.
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    Glad you all are still going strong in here, I needed a break because that last game stung. Now I am over it and seeing things from the game doesnt annoy the fk out of me anymore.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Glad you all are still going strong in here, I needed a break because that last game stung. Now I am over it and seeing things from the game doesnt annoythe fk out of me anymore.
    Still stings for sure but nothing you can do about it. It really was a game where so many things went wrong at the same time that it's hard for me to get too upset about but losing the SB when you have a good chance to win it will always sting.

    But honestly I think I felt worse after 2012 loss because I felt we were clearly the better team and should've ran away with it..meanwhile we were lucky to even get back in that game with the blackout.

    Plus now we have a roster which more or less should stay the same coaching and players, it's a young roster so the key guys should be around and they should keep improving. Doesn't guarantee anything but still a great year and excitement moving forward.
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    So Denzel Mims...

    WOW.

    Dude made himself some serious bank last night. After his combine he may not even make it to #31 but the odds of him being available if we were to trade back have now become very slim. If he's there at #31 I think we take a very serious look at him.

    If you guys weren't keeping an eye on the combine

    Mims came in at 6'3 207 lbs 33 7/8'' arms(that's huge) 9 3/8'' hands(very good size)....just for comparison Julio Jones was 6'3 220 lbs 33 3/4'' arms and 9 3/4'' hands.

    Mims ran 4.38 40(3rd best by WR)
    Benched 16 reps (14th best by WR)
    Vertical Jump 38.5''(10th best by WR)
    Broad Jump 131.0''(4th best by WR)
    3-Cone 6.66 seconds(1st by WR)
    20 yard shuttle 4.42(16th by WR)

    Julio who granted was heavier posted

    4.39 40, 17 reps, 38.5 vert, 135 broad, 6.66 3 cone, 4.25 shuttle.

    Now Mims likely won't be Julio Jones...but he may certainly make Kyle think he may be close enough.

    We'll see if the combine gets him to go before our pick or if the strong WR draft class lets him be there for our first pick. Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb also stood out. Justin Jefferson also did well.

    Reagor actually tested much worse than I expected but it looked like he put on some weight that maybe didn't translate well. He plays much faster than he tested, though his jumps were explosive which does show up on tape. I'd be happy with Mims or Reagor.
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    I was watching the 40's for the wide receivers late last night but if you don't know the guys, then they are just sprints. I will follow your detailed updates and watch who you point out.
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    Give me Justin Jefferson at 31. Gimme gimme gimme.


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    Originally Posted by iamgenus View Post
    So Denzel Mims...

    WOW.

    Dude made himself some serious bank last night. After his combine he may not even make it to #31 but the odds of him being available if we were to trade back have now become very slim. If he's there at #31 I think we take a very serious look at him.

    If you guys weren't keeping an eye on the combine

    Mims came in at 6'3 207 lbs 33 7/8'' arms(that's huge) 9 3/8'' hands(very good size)....just for comparison Julio Jones was 6'3 220 lbs 33 3/4'' arms and 9 3/4'' hands.

    Mims ran 4.38 40(3rd best by WR)
    Benched 16 reps (14th best by WR)
    Vertical Jump 38.5''(10th best by WR)
    Broad Jump 131.0''(4th best by WR)
    3-Cone 6.66 seconds(1st by WR)
    20 yard shuttle 4.42(16th by WR)

    Julio who granted was heavier posted

    4.39 40, 17 reps, 38.5 vert, 135 broad, 6.66 3 cone, 4.25 shuttle.

    Now Mims likely won't be Julio Jones...but he may certainly make Kyle think he may be close enough.

    We'll see if the combine gets him to go before our pick or if the strong WR draft class lets him be there for our first pick. Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb also stood out. Justin Jefferson also did well.

    Reagor actually tested much worse than I expected but it looked like he put on some weight that maybe didn't translate well. He plays much faster than he tested, though his jumps were explosive which does show up on tape. I'd be happy with Mims or Reagor.
    I watched some Mims highlights on youtube and they honestly left a lot to be desired. He literally just ran go routes in all the highlights and didn't even highpoint the ball in over half his touchdowns. Not sure if it was just the youtube channel I was watching or what. I want to like him because his size and speed. Maybe Kyle would be interested in him as he's different than what we have in our WR corps today.


    I do agree he made him some money last night.
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    Originally Posted by Miked1978 View Post
    I watched some Mims highlights on youtube and they honestly left a lot to be desired. He literally just ran go routes in all the highlights and didn't even highpoint the ball in over half his touchdowns. Not sure if it was just the youtube channel I was watching or what. I want to like him because his size and speed. Maybe Kyle would be interested in him as he's different than what we have in our WR corps today.


    I do agree he made him some money last night.
    No question he'll have to work on his route tree/running but the tools are there. We liked Hurd enough out of Baylor to take him in the 3rd and he wasn't as polished.

    I wouldn't think Kyle would be sold on him before that 3 cone time. We definitely have a type when it comes to WRs and we seem to value that drill quite a bit.

    That size and that athletic ability we may take a stab that the kid just needs to be coached up for his route running.
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    First off let me just say I don’t believe the 49ers have any interest in Tom Brady. Its fun to speculate but I just don’t see it.

    But what if…

    The 49ers were confident they could win with Nick Mullins. That would open up the weird scenario that Brady comes to SF to finish his career (1-2 years max) and grooms Nick to take over. We then could trade Jimmy G to the Pats for a 1st rounder. Tom helps us to a Super Bowl retires and Nick takes over and becomes a top 10 QB in the league. I could get down with that.

    There is a small part of me that thinks Kyle loss faith in Jimmy G towards the end of the year. That is why he ran the ball so much during the post season and didn’t go for the throat at the end of the first half in the Super Bowl.  I can and would argue against that all day but the possibility is out there.

    I think Jimmy G had a great year (finished in top 10 in all QB categories) and will only get better in Kyle’s system. He may not be a top tier QB but I think he is borderline top 10 and that is all you need in your QB.
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    Originally Posted by Miked1978 View Post
    First off let me just say I don’t believe the 49ers have any interest in Tom Brady. Its fun to speculate but I just don’t see it.

    But what if…

    The 49ers were confident they could win with Nick Mullins. That would open up the weird scenario that Brady comes to SF to finish his career (1-2 years max) and grooms Nick to take over. We then could trade Jimmy G to the Pats for a 1st rounder. Tom helps us to a Super Bowl retires and Nick takes over and becomes a top 10 QB in the league. I could get down with that.

    There is a small part of me that thinks Kyle loss faith in Jimmy G towards the end of the year. That is why he ran the ball so much during the post season and didn’t go for the throat at the end of the first half in the Super Bowl.  I can and would argue against that all day but the possibility is out there.

    I think Jimmy G had a great year (finished in top 10 in all QB categories) and will only get better in Kyle’s system. He may not be a top tier QB but I think he is borderline top 10 and that is all you need in your QB.
    We were absolutely dominant on the ground. There was no need to pass. Week 17 in Seattle Jimmy was perfect and more important than the run was.

    Nick Mullens will never be a top 10 QB. That’s laughable. I’d take Jimmy over Brady right now. I swear people didn’t watch Brady last year. His supporting cast wasn’t great but he himself didn’t look like he used to look. It’d be such a risky move. People act like this wasn’t Jimmy G’s first full season, coming off of a torn ACL no less. What’s limiting Jimmy right now? It’s not his arm, not his accuracy, it’s the turnovers. Why is it crazy to think with a full season of game action he can’t get drastically better at reading defenses and limiting the stupid interceptions? Not to mention he should have more mobility next year.

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    I swear people didn’t watch Brady last year. His supporting cast wasn’t great but he himself didn’t look like he used to look. It’d be such a risky move.
    I watched every game and OL/WR and no TE didn't do him any favors...

    with that being said: I think Jimmy will get better and has at least 3-5 good years ahead of him - this was his first full time season as a starting qb yeah yeah yeah he had 200 years in the league but not the same watching the game from sidelines than playing a game speed week in week out.
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    We were absolutely dominant on the ground. There was no need to pass. Week 17 in Seattle Jimmy was perfect and more important than the run was.

    Nick Mullens will never be a top 10 QB. That’s laughable. I’d take Jimmy over Brady right now. I swear people didn’t watch Brady last year. His supporting cast wasn’t great but he himself didn’t look like he used to look. It’d be such a risky move. People act like this wasn’t Jimmy G’s first full season, coming off of a torn ACL no less. What’s limiting Jimmy right now? It’s not his arm, not his accuracy, it’s the turnovers. Why is it crazy to think with a full season of game action he can’t get drastically better at reading defenses and limiting the stupid interceptions? Not to mention he should have more mobility next year.

    I’m all in on Garoppolo.
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    I think im starting to develop my draft crush on Laviska Shenault. He has offensive weapon written all over him and reminds me of Deebo with the ball in his hands. He was a swiss army knife at Colorado. His biggest weakness is he isnt a fully developed route runner but i think that comes from playing every at Colorado.

    He has a core muscle injury but still ran the 40 at 4.55 and he didnt have to run it at all. He seems like the ultimate team guy and will do anything asked of him. Just seems to be a ShannyLynch guy. Having him and Deebo on the field at the same time would give Kyle a boner.

    His current injury should drop him a bit and could be someone we could target on a trade down.
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    Originally Posted by Miked1978 View Post
    I think im starting to develop my draft crush on Laviska Shenault. He has offensive weapon written all over him and reminds me of Deebo with the ball in his hands. He was a swiss army knife at Colorado. His biggest weakness is he isnt a fully developed route runner but i think that comes from playing every at Colorado.

    He has a core muscle injury but still ran the 40 at 4.55 and he didnt have to run it at all. He seems like the ultimate team guy and will do anything asked of him. Just seems to be a ShannyLynch guy. Having him and Deebo on the field at the same time would give Kyle a boner.

    His current injury should drop him a bit and could be someone we could target on a trade down.
    I can see the love for him but I don't share it. But I also loved Solomon Thomas and thought he had a low bust possibility so clearly haven't figured out this whole draft thing yet lol.

    There are two ways we can approach the draft if looking at WR. Either get more of the same to ensure if we have anyone get injured you can plug in someone else and not have to re-adjust the playbook. It makes sense and Laviska is similar in skillset to what Deebo did for us in terms of being able to contribute in the passing offense, run offense and block on the outside. Great fit in that regard.

    But as a receiver I think Deebo was more advanced both in the route running department and also in ability to get open(the two kind of go hand in hand though) Laviska is bigger and does a better job going up for 50/50 balls but his route running and struggles to win vs press is why I'm not in love with him.

    But also I fall into the other way of thinking at this point...which is I want a complimentary type WR for Deebo/Hurd(who has similar skillsets as long as he can stay healthy)

    Obviously if everything is working great then having a conveyor belt of similar players is wonderful because it keeps guys fresh but keeps the offense running the same regardless of who is out there. Problem is when things aren't going well or defenses adjust and pick up on tendencies. You want options. That's why I'd rather have guys who can compliment Deebo and make defenses worry about other things. Speed to me is a key on the outside.

    Here are my top 5 WRs for us that may be in range - possible a few of these guys are gone before #31 let alone any pick we may trade down to.

    1. Reagor
    2. Mims
    3. Jefferson
    4. Aiyuk
    5. Quartney Davis

    Davis is more of my later round favorite. Aiyuk is probably closer to Deebo than a speed guy but I just really like him.

    Really my two favorites in this draft right now are Reagor and Mims. Would be thrilled to get either one of them. Mims made himself a ton of cash at the combine.
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    Originally Posted by camaleom View Post
    I watched every game and OL/WR and no TE didn't do him any favors...

    with that being said: I think Jimmy will get better and has at least 3-5 good years ahead of him - this was his first full time season as a starting qb yeah yeah yeah he had 200 years in the league but not the same watching the game from sidelines than playing a game speed week in week out.
    I watched every game too and Tom definitely wasn't his usual self but it was a group effort for sure.

    However Brady's biggest asset at QB these days is his brain. His experience and his ability to read the defense, find his matchups and get him the ball. However what you saw last year with the Pats was basically Edelman and a whole lot of guys new to Brady where he didn't have the trust that they would be where they should be.

    Which is why people talking about him going to the 49ers and the 49ers being better for it is so dumb. Brady's game is all about that trust factor and knowing where he's going with the football.

    Him going to the 49ers would require him to learn a new offense - verbiage is very different. I'm sure Brady could pick it up quick enough but the comfort level certainly wouldn't match how things are in NE. He also would have all new receivers to build chemistry with.

    He would be 43 next season and as great as Tom is(and everyone here knows how I feel about him) father time will catch him eventually. Also Brady's kryptonite has always been inside pressure. Did everyone watch the 4th quarter of the SB? That's all we had there because our interior OL leaves a lot to be desired in pass pro with Richburg out.

    All this sh*t is a non story anyways. The only people fueling this rumor are morons like Mike Florio, Tom Curran basically decided to joke about the 49ers being in it and Florio and other click bait artists decided to act like it's legit.

    What's truly hilarious about their suggestion is that the 49ers sign a 43 year old Tom Brady and release Jimmy for nothing. Just sheer stupidity.
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    Ok so i read this article this morning and it made me smile.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...immy-garoppolo

    San Mateo boy coming home with a sick mom, makes sense to me.
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    Originally Posted by Miked1978 View Post
    First off let me just say I don’t believe the 49ers have any interest in Tom Brady. Its fun to speculate but I just don’t see it.

    But what if…

    The 49ers were confident they could win with Nick Mullins. That would open up the weird scenario that Brady comes to SF to finish his career (1-2 years max) and grooms Nick to take over. We then could trade Jimmy G to the Pats for a 1st rounder. Tom helps us to a Super Bowl retires and Nick takes over and becomes a top 10 QB in the league. I could get down with that.

    There is a small part of me that thinks Kyle loss faith in Jimmy G towards the end of the year. That is why he ran the ball so much during the post season and didn’t go for the throat at the end of the first half in the Super Bowl.  I can and would argue against that all day but the possibility is out there.

    I think Jimmy G had a great year (finished in top 10 in all QB categories) and will only get better in Kyle’s system. He may not be a top tier QB but I think he is borderline top 10 and that is all you need in your QB.
    That doesn't make sense when you remember that we stopped running the ball with the lead in the 4th quarter. If Kyle lost trust in Jimmy he wouldn't have called a single pass play regardless of what look the Chiefs were giving us.

    Our record without Jimmy under Kyle is like 4-20 or something along those lines...it's not pretty.

    Jimmy played last year a year removed from ACL, an injury that affects QBs just as much as it does skill players who have to run around much more than a QB. It takes 2 years to fully heal from that injury.

    It was also Jimmy's first full starting season. He should be able to work on his short comings this offseason and work on chemistry with his receivers.

    The other factor is the locker room. Everyone kept praising the locker room chemistry for helping them win. Taking away the QB who has done nothing but win for your franchise before he really gets healthy and hits his prime and replacing him with an aging QB even if he is the GOAT can unravel that completely.

    Let's not kid ourselves...if Tom Brady became the QB of the 49ers the attention to the position would sky rocket. Even if Brady tried to downplay his role on the team the media wouldn't have any of it.

    There isn't ANY positive for the 49ers replacing Jimmy with Brady unless it involved them trading Jimmy for a bounty of draft picks.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Ok so i read this article this morning and it made me smile.

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...immy-garoppolo

    San Mateo boy coming home with a sick mom, makes sense to me.
    lol come on dude...

    Curran admitted he was just joking around and people ran with his comments like it was fact. Rappaport has said he can't find a single source to confirm there is interest from the 49ers.

    Obviously there is interest from the Brady side. And I'm sure there is plenty of interest from the Pats in getting Garoppolo.
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    lol come on dude...

    Curran admitted he was just joking around and people ran with his comments like it was fact. Rappaport has said he can't find a single source to confirm there is interest from the 49ers.

    Obviously there is interest from the Brady side. And I'm sure there is plenty of interest from the Pats in getting Garoppolo.
    Stop killing my morning buzz dude....LOL
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    Stop killing my morning buzz dude....LOL
    lol don't even tell me you'd actually want that? I'm probably one of the biggest Brady fanboys around here but the move just doesn't make any sense right now.
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    lol don't even tell me you'd actually want that? I'm probably one of the biggest Brady fanboys around here but the move just doesn't make any sense right now.
    We were so dam close.... so I guess I just want anything that tips the scales in our favor. I guess I don't really care who it is, Jimmy or Tom.
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    Tom has maybe 1 or 2 years left if that. The 49ers would have no qb again after that. No thanks.
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    Tom has maybe 1 or 2 years left if that. The 49ers would have no qb again after that. No thanks.
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    The #49ers this week picked up 2020 contract options for FB Kyle Juszczyk and CB K'Waun Williams. They also announced the tendering of five exclusive rights free agents:
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    Things are starting to happen.... Curious about the big contracts. Also read that we are looking to trade goodwin.
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    Originally Posted by x-trainer ben View Post
    We were so dam close.... so I guess I just want anything that tips the scales in our favor. I guess I don't really care who it is, Jimmy or Tom.
    Tom at 43 is relying on his mind for most of his production. Here are all the reasons replacing Jimmy with Brady doesn't make sense for the 49ers.

    You'll be looking for another QB in 2 years and likely don't have a high pick to do it.
    You're fuking up the locker room chemistry that was so critical to our success last year - what made Jimmy a great part of that locker room is that despite being the QB he wasn't someone way ahead of the other guys. Even if Brady says all the right things the media will rightfully make it more about him than the team.
    For an offense which typically takes QBs a couple of years to master you're asking Brady to come in and get it done on a short offseason after finally getting Jimmy a full season of starting experience in it.
    Brady is a lot more physically limited these days than Garoppolo
    Brady who is all about timing in an offense and trust in his receivers to be where he wants them would have to learn a new scheme and then work on chemistry with all new receivers
    Possibly salary cap issues - it's possible Brady would take less than Jimmy was getting to sign with us...but I'd be surprised if he did.


    Reasons why Brady would make sense for the 49ers...

    A hope and a prayer by the 49ers front office that Brady's last season was more of an issue with what the Pats had around him and that he can pick up the offense faster than normal due to his experience and get chemistry with our guys faster than he has with other players in the past and our defense which was actually statistically worse than the Pats D last year when they couldn't get past the wild card game at home and he's able to make less mistakes than Jimmy and make enough plays for the running game and defense to win games and the SB.


    Sorry but to me the only upside is a prayer. Would be EPICLY stupid to replace a 28/29 year old QB who finally got a full season worth of starting experience and can finally work on improving his game/chemistry with guys who should be on the team for a while with a QB who will be 43 when the season starts...even if that QB is the GOAT.

    I equate this type of move to Jerry Rice at the end of his career. Jerry is the unquestioned GOAT WR but think about a team like Carolina in 2004 releasing Steve Smith who was good but not great and signing Jerry at 42 years old because Jerry knows how to win Superbowls and Carolina just lost in the SB.
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    I'm still holding out hope for my by Mullens but obviously you guys don't share the same sentiment. He's from my alma mater
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    Just saw where apparently the 49ers are shopping Goodwin. I hate to see it but the writing is on the wall with him being the odd man out. He seems like a good guy off the field. Is it me or did it seem like he never really gelled with the other WRs? Sanders seemed like he did but I never got the feeling Goodwin did.

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    Just saw where apparently the 49ers are shopping Goodwin. I hate to see it but the writing is on the wall with him being the odd man out. He seems like a good guy off the field. Is it me or did it seem like he never really gelled with the other WRs? Sanders seemed like he did but I never got the feeling Goodwin did.

    Not sure how much they could get for him. Realistically probably a 5th rounder.
    Goodwin is a great dude but his mind wasn't on football last year. Part of it is completely understandable given the awful things happening in his personal life and I was thrilled to hear he and his wife finally had a healthy pregnancy.

    But the other part was him doing the race for gold crap, talking about training for the Olympics. Maybe it's selfish of me but IMO you can't properly train for the NFL if you're training for the Olympics.

    I love his speed and what he brought to the team but all the drops this year and clearly the coaches saw he wasn't all there which is why the odd limiting of his snaps.

    I'd take anything for him at this point. I don't see a way he's on the roster next year. I wish him well though. Great dude.
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    For the 2nd time in as many days I have read that the 49ers need to retool their running back situation. WTF??? If anything we need to get rid of 1 or 2 of them so the others can get some carries.

    Personally i'd trade Coleman if I could and then let Mostert, Breida, and Wilson split the carries. If McKinnon comes back healthy and restructured then fine throw him in the mix if not grab a guy as a undrafted free agent.

    Not sure if we could trade Coleman with his contract and Kyle seems to love him. Maybe its Breida they try and trade (I like Breida) but anywho I think 1 of our backs need to go.
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    Jimmy and Goodwin had such a great connection when Jimmy took over in 2017. Sad to see they couldn't keep it going
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