Rest in pieces in nba, here comes Leplayoffmode.(crazy stats of Lebron)

[Dave P]

now the only question is- are you surprised?

im not even on a side here

I'm surprised that I keep falling into this sh!t, I swear I think I know better. Every time a newish poster starts hopping into conversations I have the hope that its not just trolling but it always ends up this way.

[Dave P]

'extraneous things' you meant like context?

so DJ is shooting from range now? or is he taking most of his shots at the rim? asking for a friend

DJ is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league if not THE best shooter in the league, he hasn't missed all season and has a record setting 100% from 3.

I'd go so far as to put him in the same ballpark as Andrew Bogut.

[Spill512]

I would say passing the ball to your own team is part of ball handling... unless you want to say specifically dribbling. Regardless of how he gets to the basket, he has to handle the ball to get there. Curry is flashier, but that doesn't equal more success

Bro nobody means passing when they say ball handling. I've never once in my life heard someone refer to passing when they say ball handling. Those are separate skills.

How they got there does matter in context of judging ball handling skills. If someone gets there through athleticism versus someone getting there through their handles, the latter is actually reflective of ball handling while the former is reflective of their athleticism. Can't you see that there's a distinction there?

[MikeBreen]

I'm surprised that I keep falling into this sh!t, I swear I think I know better. Every time a newish poster starts hopping into conversations I have the hope that its not just trolling but it always ends up this way.

Why are you lying dave? you love this shet. You have 48k posts. Bullsharting with other posters is your passion.

[Trapstar4.4]

CAVs prob wont even be in the finals

[broboma2012]

DJ is one of the best 3 point shooters in the league if not THE best shooter in the league, he hasn't missed all season and has a record setting 100% from 3.

I'd go so far as to put him in the same ballpark as Andrew Bogut.

lol. but seriously. how hard would it be for this kid to say: 'all right, i was wrong.'


instead he chooses to build on his original statement with successively more stupid statements

[Dave P]

Why are you lying dave? you love this shet. You have 48k posts. Bullsharting with other posters is your passion.

Its my heroin, except I dont get high, I just have the withdrawals.

[notWilliam]

DJ leads in EFG... assisted/non-assisted has nothing to do with the drop rate of those shots. Bottom line is Curry doesn't lead the league in 3 point percentage. You are adding in extraneous things that are just taking it further from the point

cant just compare curry and jj's 3% percentages b/c of shot difficulty.


jjs purely an offball/secondary playmaker w/ 95% of his threes coming off catch/shoot or one dribble pullup. ( shooting 49% on those looks )
stephs only at like 54% for catch/shoot or one dribble pullup 3s. (shooting 46%ish on those looks)

[biggquis]

'extraneous things' you meant like context?

so DJ is shooting from range now? or is he taking most of his shots at the rim? asking for a friend

gonna repost this you so you can't just pretend that you weren't destroyed:



brb efg
brb TS
brb both percentages
brb assisted %'s
brb another percentage


lol at this guy's argument being reddick is a better shooter because he has a 2% point advantage while taking half the attempts and creating 0 shots (because you are an idiot, I will point out that this is slight hyperbole) for himself.

DJ leads in EFG. Interpret it how you will. You said that curry leads there, and he in fact does not. thanks for at least admitting Redick has a higher percentage

[broboma2012]

DJ leads in EFG. Interpret it how you will. You said that curry leads there, and he in fact does not. thanks for at least admitting Redick has a higher percentage

so DJ gets his high % shots from shooting from range? you are really painting yourself into a corner here

wrong. never said curry lead the league in efg. i said he leads the league in TS (he does) and leads reddick in efg (he does). do you ever get tired of being wrong?

[biggquis]

cant just compare curry and jj's 3% percentages b/c of shot difficulty.


jjs purely an offball/secondary playmaker w/ 95% of his threes coming off catch/shoot or one dribble pullup. ( shooting 49% on those looks )
stephs only at like 54% for catch/shoot or one dribble pullup 3s. (shooting 46%ish on those looks)

Absolutely agree that it is two different play styles. That doesn't change the fact that JJ's drop more often than Steph's. Even looking at the small sample size you provided (49 vs 46). If I had to choose one guy to take one shot, I'm taking JJ. That would be very different if we're talking building around someone. Of course I'd choose Steph

[broboma2012]

Absolutely agree that it is two different play styles. That doesn't change the fact that JJ's drop more often than Steph's. Even looking at the small sample size you provided (49 vs 46). If I had to choose one guy to take one shot, I'm taking JJ. That would be very different if we're talking building around someone. Of course I'd choose Steph

but you are stating your scenario in a vacuum. ie you can't rely on one of the best play-makers in NBA history (chris paul) to set up a shot for you. curry hits 3's in a variety of ways and can create his own shot.

this is huge when talking about your vacuum scenario. something that you think is 'extraneous'

[biggquis]

so DJ gets his high % shots from shooting from range? you are really painting yourself into a corner here

wrong. never said curry lead the league in efg. i said he leads the league in TS (he does) and leads reddick in efg (he does). do you ever get tired of being wrong?

When did I say DJ got shots from range? I said he leads the league in efg (he does) and Redick leads Curry in 3% (he does). The correct answer to the question would be TS%... Curry leads the league in TS%... which I've already acknowledged. You use a million words when all you had to say was TS%

[biggquis]

but you are stating your scenario in a vacuum. ie you can't rely on one of the best play-makers in NBA history (chris paul) to set up a shot for you. curry hits 3's in a variety of ways and can create his own shot.

this is huge when talking about your vacuum scenario. something that you think is 'extraneous'

Not when the question is who has a higher 3 point percentage. What you've supplied are reasons why. The fact remains JJ has a higher percentage. By that posters number on similar shooting situations (catch and shoot or one dribble) JJ has a higher percentage

[notWilliam]

When did I say DJ got shots from range? I said he leads the league in efg (he does) and Redick leads Curry in 3% (he does). The correct answer to the question would be TS%... Curry leads the league in TS%... which I've already acknowledged. You use a million words when all you had to say was TS%

Not when the question is who has a higher 3 point percentage. What you've supplied are reasons why. The fact remains JJ has a higher percentage.

lol

[broboma2012]

When did I say DJ got shots from range? I said he leads the league in efg (he does) and Redick leads Curry in 3% (he does). The correct answer to the question would be TS%... Curry leads the league in TS%... which I've already acknowledged. You use a million words when all you had to say was TS%

right and curry leads reddick in TS (as well as the NBA) and efg (as well as all guards). DJ is irrelevant to the discussion because he gets the majority of his points at the rim rather than from range. DJ is not a shooter. i repeat, DJ is not a shooter

[biggquis]

right and curry leads reddick in TS (as well as the NBA) and efg (as well as all guards). DJ is irrelevant to the discussion because he gets the majority of his points at the rim rather than from range. DJ is not a shooter. i repeat, DJ is not a shooter

Yes, but he does not lead him in 3 point percentage. I'm not sure what the argument is here...

[broboma2012]

Not when the question is who has a higher 3 point percentage. What you've supplied are reasons why. The fact remains JJ has a higher percentage. By that posters number on similar shooting situations (catch and shoot or one dribble) JJ has a higher percentage

lol at this dude malfunctioning

no, the question is actually not who has a higher 3 pt %. the question is who is a better shooter. you have (incorrectly) associated the 2 as meaning the same thing.



this dude actually thinks he holds the trump card in this situation with 3 pt %.

[biggquis]

lol at this dude malfunctioning

no, the question is actually not who has a higher 3 pt %. the question is who is a better shooter. you have (incorrectly) associated the 2 as meaning the same thing.



this dude actually thinks he holds the trump card in this situation with 3 pt %.

Again, how are you measuring that he's better than everyone else at shooting? What shooting categories does he have the highest percentage in?

Not quite

[notWilliam]

Yes, but he does not lead him in 3 point percentage. I'm not sure what the argument is here...

i dont even agree with your points and think youre just playing a pseduo devils advocate stance in this thread, but 3 point % alone isnt enough.

FWIW: JJs shooting 48.2% on uncontested looks ~4.3 shots per game, Stephs at 47.6% on ~ 7.8shots per game (shot type gonna be a lot similar than contested 3s.)

[broboma2012]

Not quite

troy daniels leads reddick in 3 pt %. why don't you choose him then?

[biggquis]

i dont even agree with your points and think youre just playing a pseduo devils advocate stance in this thread, but 3 point % alone isnt enough.

FWIW: JJs shooting 48.2% on uncontested looks ~4.3 shots per game, Stephs at 47.6% on ~ 7.8shots per game (shot type gonna be a lot similar than contested 3s.)

How can you not agree that JJ is shooting a higher % from three? That's not an opinion. Your own numbers just stated that again when comparing similar shot types

[biggquis]

troy daniels leads reddick in 3 pt %. why don't you choose him then?

Because JJ looks better?

Steph Curry is the best all around shooter in the NBA But I'd still pick Redick to shoot a 3 over him and Deandre Jordan to finish in the paint

[broboma2012]

Again, how are you measuring that he's better than everyone else at shooting? What shooting categories does he have the highest percentage in?

Because JJ looks better?

Steph Curry is the best all around shooter in the NBA But I'd still pick Redick to shoot a 3 over him and Deandre Jordan to finish in the paint

awwwww he learned something

[biggquis]

awwwww he learned something

I only hope that you do someday as well Thanks for saving the day again

[Dimez25]

Worst argument I've ever read on sports misc last couple pages

[jalundah]

most of my posts would qualify me as a LeBron stan, but bigquis has got to be the worst troll in this whole section since roodyghey was active

[srom12]

Curry retards on suicide watch.