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    Ohp with the monkey bar is weird anyway since you have to lean back just to clear the bar over your head. I may switch back to a straight bar. Or maybe just use dumbbells instead.

    Tasty and quick, the way I like.
    I want the sugar since I got rid of the Monsters and any refined sugars. Plus most fruit doesn't seem to bother my gut. I usually have fruit at the end of the night or after a meal. Except for my banana for a little energy on my long work days. The watermelon was after lifting because I was thirsty.

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    2:30 am-can of sardines, small bowl of rice, watermelon

    Omega 3's for the win with the sardines. The can I had were with Mediterranean seasonings which wasn't for me. The taste of nasty black olives was a bit overwhelming. I got them down though, way better to have real food than swallowing a supplement. A tin or two a week and I will be more then set. A good boost to calcium to.

    I am sore as fuk from lifting Tuesday and my hip/low back is a bit suffering some. Stared bothering me Sunday after work. I was on spaz mode and I tend not to pay attention to how I move. I am afraid there will be no deadlifting tomorrow. I am going to bully myself to do some yoga.
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    2pm- pollack, sweet potato, coconut oil

    6:30 pm- 2 bananas, frozen blueberries, coconut oil

    So tired. I did have poor sleep and that combined with feeling physically beat up and a deficit is a bit much for me tonight. I am a 100 short on the calories tonight. Not worth bothering. I will make it up sometime this week. I was thinking about having a maintenance day on Saturday if I still feel laggy. That is if the scale moves and it should, I have been on point with my intake.

    Hip was better today. So maybe on Friday I could get some lifting in. Going to do some stretching before sleep.
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    Last of my beef. I have my monthly beef order coming in next week along with some chicken livers, veal liver, and some raw milk cheddar cheese. Yep going to start eating organ meats for the nutrition. That should last me 6-8 weeks if I supplement a couple of meals with wild caught fish. Digestion is starting to come back online. I am going to add some dairy back in next week. I don't think I have a problem with dairy and I miss butter and cheese so very much.
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    Love chicken liver.
    Saw it on sale last month and bought four tubs. I usually fry it with some onions & green peppers. How do you cook yours?
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    I'm so jealous. I'm lactose intolerant and can really only eat hard cheese. I must say, cheese is one food I've really been craving on this cut; for the past several weeks I haven't had any dairy at all.

    I haven't eaten liver in my adult life, but my mom used to make chicken liver when I was a kid. I had a knee-jerk disgust response simply because it was called "liver"; I'm not sure I ever wound up trying it! I also had an ex who was French and would eat chicken gizzards on a salad. I tried them; not bad, but the texture was oddly crunchy and unpleasant. I've eaten beef tendon in a stirfry (very good) and tongue (decent, but almost too tender). How do you prepare liver?
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    Originally Posted by NoCarbsNoSugar View Post
    Love chicken liver.
    Saw it on sale last month and bought four tubs. I usually fry it with some onions & green peppers. How do you cook yours?
    Probably saute in butter with some mushrooms and onion. Pretty excited for a new food adventure.

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    I'm so jealous. I'm lactose intolerant and can really only eat hard cheese. I must say, cheese is one food I've really been craving on this cut; for the past several weeks I haven't had any dairy at all.

    I haven't eaten liver in my adult life, but my mom used to make chicken liver when I was a kid. I had a knee-jerk disgust response simply because it was called "liver"; I'm not sure I ever wound up trying it! I also had an ex who was French and would eat chicken gizzards on a salad. I tried them; not bad, but the texture was oddly crunchy and unpleasant. I've eaten beef tendon in a stirfry (very good) and tongue (decent, but almost too tender). How do you prepare liver?
    That's a bummer. Dairy can add such variety. So you can eat a cheese like a parmesan then? Are you avoiding due to the fat? I know you are pretty lowish on your cut.
    I haven't had any kind of liver since I was a child, and did not like it. But now I think I would enjoy. Plus I need the nutrients since I do not eat any veg anymore. I do like gizzards but never had tendon. I do intend in the future to get some beef heart. I will cook liver up in butter to med rare along with onions and mushrooms.

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    Low end of calories today. I am too tired to bother. I am so excited to put some dairy back in. Cheese will be a nice go to if I am running short on calories. One or two ounces and bam calories met for the day with no bother. For now it will only be butter and cheese. I will add butter tomorrow and cheese sometime next week. I do not anticipate any issues. Also chicken will be back on the menu.

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    September 14th

    Calories between 2000-2100
    Foods were homemade chicken veg soup, a little chicken liver and gizzard, more chicken, butter, coconut oil, rice, a banana

    Weight 154.5, 2.5 pounds down form last week

    Since I lost a good chunk of weight a maintenance day was in order. It was a free and easy day so hopefully the extra fuel I heal up a little better form the hip/back/forearm issues form last week.
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    Mmm homemade chicken soup. What vegetables did you put in? I assume you screened to see if any upset your stomach.

    Yes, I can eat hard cheese in moderate amounts. Parmesan, Gouda, Provolone, etc. I may actually pick up a little good cheese tomorrow at the grocery store now that I'm done with my competition. I miss cheese and fruit the most of what I've cut out, probably.

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    ^^^
    Just onions, green beans, carrots, and mushrooms. Damn it was good, something about a good homemade broth full of fat and goodness.

    I over did my last lifting session a bit and combined with a bit more of slave work was a bit much.

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    -blueberries and coconut cream
    -pollack, rice, coconut cream

    Ugh I have been feeling off the last few days, bloated, weird and crampy and sleep is messed up. Could very well be hormonal. I did add three foods back in at once too. So ditching the butter and onions for now just to eliminate variables. Could be stress as well, family stuff. I also ditched coffee. The acidity of coffee just exasperates the acids reflux and it scrambles my digestion. I bought some caffeine so i spread 200 mg out over the course of the day.
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    Yeah, I hate to say it but onions are a common trigger for stomach issues. If I overdo it on them I feel it myself. I hope that's not it, though--could be any number of things! No celery in your chicken soup? My grandmother always used to make it with celery, carrots, onion, and lots of fresh parsley and black peppercorns. Actually, my mom recently found a short piece of writing she did about making chicken soup with me when I was a tiny kid. I'd sit on the counter and throw ingredients into the pot for her and make a huge mess. Apparently that's a very happy memory for her. She has dementia now, so I'm thinking about this stuff, I suppose.

    You might also feel "off" because you overdid it. Lack of sleep will screw up my digestion every time.
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    ^^
    I added too many foods at once. Could be a number of issues so its very hard to pin pint. I am beginning to think it is going to impossible. I forgot about the celery.
    That is a great story about you and your grandmother. I have the best memories myself of mine baking pies and giving us kids the scrap pieces of dough to make mini pies. She has been gone 17 years now and the magic she had cooking will always live with me.

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    5:30
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    I was craving chicken hard. I find that funny. You would think that it would be bread, cake, or donuts. I made a a super rich broth from the raw and cooked bones. It simmered for 10 hours. It will be a great flavoring agent for my rice bowls.

    No lifting due to issues with my back. Well I think its more like my hip. Flared up on me good on Tuesday which made my job a bit more annoying. Way better today but still a little wary.
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    Damn that donut. Having that many calories in a deficit is not cool but I had a weak moment. I just can't let that moment of apathy get caught in my head. Now I don't think that there is anything wrong with a sweet every now and then, its just a slippery slope for me. And let me tell you how disappointed I am in the quality of the meat I bought at the store. It was grass fed but sure wasn't fresh. I bought it late Monday night and it was already starting to turn bad. That is why I have to order online.
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    I know how it feels with the sweets ... I had to go get some medicine for the kids from Walgreens late last night, and even though I was done with the calories for the day, I got two protein bars and a York for myself.

    That cost me some 500 calories and put me at Maintenance.

    Ah shocks ... we’ll do better today, eh?
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    ^^^
    That's right guy. Besides a day or two higher once in a while is good in the long run to relieve the constant stress on the body.


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    Back on track. Digestion was good other than the heartburn. I might have to break down and get me some prilosec. Tired asf though. Ended up taking a 2.5 hour nap. Also got half of my beef haul in today so happy day.
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    Re: craving chicken, when I get a serious craving that isn't just exposure-based, it's very often for things like meat. Steak, in particular. Been awhile since I've craved chicken, because I don't know really good ways to cook it... my mom makes stewed chicken with onions and dried fruit that's really good, but I never make it myself; maybe I'll ask for it next time I stop by there for dinner.

    I'm sorry about the donut. That kind of thing never feels worth it after the fact. I do have a BJJ friend who lost 40lb while still eating donuts, but he trains like a madman.
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    ^^^

    Can't go wrong with a whole roasted bird or just roasted in general. Doesn't work so well with skinless chicken though, need that fat to flavor. Stewed chicken is so good. I just might make that for myself next time I buy a chicken.

    Something like a donut is definitely a waste when restricting. Need that quality nutrition when on a deficit. I was a little disappointed that I went there.

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    Saturdays foods were pot roast and rice. Most certainly ate over a pound of meat with 300-400 grams of rice spread between two meals. Calories were probably maintenance again.


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    9-8oz ground beef, 20 grams butter, 1 slice of bread

    I kind want to experiment a little with a higher fat diet on a few days. That is if my system can handle it. Felt pretty good today and had no heartburn or gastric distress. I am happier and more satisfied and meals will be smaller in size. I think some of my stomach issue have to do with just the largeness of my meals, 300 grams of rice with a large amount of protein is alot of food. I really like the two meal a day approach so if I can can the volume of food down I think some issues would go away. I did order some bile salts to aid in digestion. We will see how I feel.
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    six lbs for the month is awesome
    in an whole year, that could amount to A LOT more than you need to lose
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    ^^^
    I am happy with that. Now to keep it up, I feel good that I can. With any luck I will be close to the weight I desire by the end of the year.

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    1:30-pollack, rice, curry, chicken stock, coconut cream

    6-top sirloin, butter, banana

    10-2.5 old fashioned donuts

    I blame being hormonal for my moment of weakness. I lost focus.


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    2-top sirloin, rice, one egg, broth

    1 am-ground beef

    I am going to low ball calories for the next couple of days, so under 1300-1400. I may do a fast instead, I will see how I feel tomorrow. I need to get back to lifting but that forearm still isn't right. I am still losing even though my higher days. My work shorts are getting a little more loose.
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    I think it's good that you allow yourself to be flexible instead of rigid, and set a long timeline on goals. I think it's a more sustainable way to live than white-knuckling. I'm attempting that myself, though I have an extremely difficult time allowing myself maintenance days when I'm trying to lose weight. I hope the donuts were delicious.

    Sorry about your forearm; has this happened before? Can you still do abs or something with your legs?
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    My tendency is to be too rigid. I recognize that trait in myself which helps me to talk myself down from that all or nothing way of thinking. I am not always successful but I won this round. It was wild hormone cravings. I have some work to do to recover to make my deficit but that is the price one pays for a donut day. Weight loss needs to be a marathon for me not a sprint.

    Yes, on several occasions in the past. its why I don't do dumbbell curls, pullups, and certain rows. This time around I think the combo of a couple of intense work nights and all the pulling I did on my last lifting session did me in. And yes there are exercises I can do. I have been kind bummed out about it so I do nothing. I need to do better.

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    7:30-sardines with a little mustard, blueberries with coconut cream

    3 am-7 grams of raw milk sharp cheddar cheese

    Appetite was low today, period cramps. Last time was bad so hopefully this time will be a bit easier. Trying to avoid taking any motrin so hopefully the pain doesn't get any worse. Work kind of sucked. My boss wanted me to do a check of a job tonight. Spent an extra half hour there because of such a **** job the normal guy did. Just what I want to do after a tough shift. He pays me cash but still very annoying.

    On better news I got my last meat shipment in for the month, 4 pounds of veal liver, three pounds of chicken liver, a strip steak, and a a bit of raw milk cheddar, all grass fed. And a extra bonus of a huge ribeye that I did not order. I was a gift fro being a new customer. Ok I am won over. So I cut up all the veal liver into 4 oz pieces, vacuumed packed it and froze. I will have a portion once a week. I figure liver will be good a good start with organ meats. I can also get heart and kidneys but that is for later on.
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    Mmmm sardines. Great way to get the calcium and omega-3s.

    7 grams of cheese??? I can eat that amount of chocolate, but that little cheese (1/4 ounce) takes serious willpower. Damn woman.
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    hurray for chicken liver!
    On the menu for tomorrow. I soaked them in salted water overnight and now have them drying on a rack in the fridge. A little dirty rice is in order.

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    Mmmm sardines. Great way to get the calcium and omega-3s.

    7 grams of cheese??? I can eat that amount of chocolate, but that little cheese (1/4 ounce) takes serious willpower. Damn woman.
    Yeppers. Sardines along with liver are going to be my multi. They are a little dry but really sardines taste pretty much like a strong canned tuna.

    LOL, I just wanted a little sample last night. Its really aged and intensely flavored and so very satisfying.. Plus it was very expensive at 21 dollars for a half a pound which makes me savor it a bit more.


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    Calories were kind of an estimate. The lip on that ribeye was pretty large so may have been higher. I ate that part first and that delicious meat butter was the best part of that 1.1 pound beast of a steak. Kept me satisfied all night and I did not miss the carbs at all. No bloat or heartburn either. I am finding out all kinds of info in doing this elimination diet. I always thought I had trouble digesting fats. Seems that is totally not the case. I have to say that the old gut is doing really good on this very low fiber diet. Next week I will be switching my main carb source form rice to sweet potatoes to see if that changes anything. Funny how I thrived on a high fiber, high carb diet a few years ago. And now that I am a bit older not so much.
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    Wow, a basically zero-carb day, dang. I've always been curious about what that might feel like. You seem able to eat so little food, volume-wise. Is that something that's new since your fasting?

    I imagine you'll see a scale low after a day like that, simply due to the lack of carbs and food volume--dropped water weight and all that. Needing to make weight for competitions has made me very interested in ways people might manipulate scale weight.
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    It felt great yesterday. I am sure the larger fat macro helped in the satiety. I believe the less food volume is easier on my gut and it does suit my fasting better.

    I do expect a good loss when I weigh in tomorrow with the fasting along with low calories and carbs. Yep low food volume and low carbs will give that consistent scale loss. Shoot I imagine that it could be 5 pounds or even more. Pretty easy for me to do zero carb since my body is accustomed to fasting. Might not be the case for an individual who is not acclimated.

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    1:00-rice, chicken liver, ground beef, mushrooms, beef stock, butter. Ate half had the rest at 5 with two fried eggs added

    10-a small butter cookie

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    Calories 2025, macros 92p/185c/99f, estimate

    Weight 151.7 2.3 pounds lost for the week

    meals
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    2-herring in wine sauce
    3-bread and butter!
    4-hamburger

    Saturday maintenance day. I wanted to really test out bread so I made some in my bread maker. turned out ok, dough was too wet. I should have went with my instinct and added more flour. Baking just isn't my thing. I ate quite a bit. Now I will wait to see if I have any ill effects. I don't anticipate any issue but you never know.
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    Nice loss! Hope you take it OK if the scale goes back up once you add carbs and volume of food, as it tends to do.

    Breadmaker brings me BACK. Dang. My mom used to have one and I remember waking up to the smell of warm, fluffy, fresh bread... it would still be steaming when it came out and just SO SOFT and hnnngh. Nothing I've ever had since had replicated the pleasure of that for me, bread-wise.
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    Awesome loss for the week!
    Ty!

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    Nice loss! Hope you take it OK if the scale goes back up once you add carbs and volume of food, as it tends to do.

    Breadmaker brings me BACK. Dang. My mom used to have one and I remember waking up to the smell of warm, fluffy, fresh bread... it would still be steaming when it came out and just SO SOFT and hnnngh. Nothing I've ever had since had replicated the pleasure of that for me, bread-wise.
    Yeah I am well aware of weight fluctuations. I eliminate that variable best that I can by only weighing in only on Saturday and coming off a bit of a fast. That way conditions are about the same every week.

    What a great memory! The smell was pretty intoxicating. That Is why I ate half the loaf. I need to practice more with mine.

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    No ill effects form the bread today. So I think wheat will be ok. It will give me another option. I like rice but a change up once in a while will be nice.
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    -cheddar with a little honey

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    -top sirloin

    2:45 am
    -butter, two eggs

    Workout
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    I was going to do a fast but I was pretty hungry when I got home. Its funny how just a little bump in activity can have such an effect on my hunger levels. Its good that I had a little wiggle room with calories to play with. The eggs hit the spot enough with around 250 calories. Protein was a bit higher than normal. I would prefer more fat, its cheaper.

    So starting a new program called the 90 day dash. Basically it incorporates yoga, mobility, and weights and is more fitness based. I have struggled quite a bit with lifting mostly due to the conflict of just getting older. Hard for me to accept that lifting heavy all the time just isn't smart anymore. Well I am pretty excited to start this new plan. And yoga is hard yall. I am not very graceful. It is on the agenda for three times a week so I am sure that I will improve. Also the program will take me longer than 90 days. My week is nine days long as Tuesday's and Thursday's are long work days for me so no other activity other than maybe some foam rolling.
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