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    Talking Let's talk about...APS Nutrition Mesomorph

    Jesus Christ, where do I begin. I've been in the supplement game for almost 12 years now and have used almost every major pre-workout supplement, including the original Jack3d. I took my first scoop of Mesomorph last night and I literally have never felt anything like this before in my life. I am not sure if its the higher DMAA dosage, or the way all the ingredients react together with my body but I literally could not leave the gym. I had 25 minutes of LISS cardio planned after weights, I did 75 minutes. During weights, I finished my normal back routine and then just started doing random extra back exercises because I could not calm down. I felt like I was high most of the workout and then even an hour after I got home I could still feel it and wanted to do more physical activity, everything was elevated, my energy and my mood. I don't think I will ever go back to a standard caffeine-based stimulant pre-workout ever again, they are literally a waste of money compared to this.

    A few questions for those who have dabbled in Mesomorph or other DMAA products:

    1. When to take it? I took it about 30 minutes before my workout but the peak of the effect did not hit until the end of my weight session and into my cardio.
    2. Are there any true, fact-based, studies that show negative side effects of the use of DMAA in this fashion?
    3. Will I continue to feel it as much as I did on Day 1 as I work my way through the rest of the tub?
    4. Should I avoid caffeine throughout the day (coffee at work) if I am taking Meso in the evening?
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    This has always been a preworkout that i've been wanting to try but just never have.

    Sounds like you had one hell of an experience with it.
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    I've gone through 2 tubs so far. Thank you Danielmoo for getting me hooked on Mesomorph


    Experiment with different times of taking it. I can take 30mins before my workout and the extreme focus has kicked in by the time I start my workout. I lift for roughly 2 hours, but I notice the peak 45-60mins after taking. You won't feel that extreme focus and energy the more you use it. My first 2-3 workouts I had tunnel vision. That effect went down with continued use. Still great focus, but not the same tunnel vision and feeling like I can lift the world.

    Up to you if you want to avoid other stims throughout the day. The longer your stim tolerance is lower, the longer preworkouts will feel effective before you need a stim break.
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    This has always been a preworkout that i've been wanting to try but just never have.

    Sounds like you had one hell of an experience with it.
    You should. I had one and used it only once a week, so it could last me for a long time. Miss it.
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    Originally Posted by blokpost View Post
    You should. I had one and used it only once a week, so it could last me for a long time. Miss it.
    Innovate wicked seems also strong, but never tried that.
    I'll definitely check it out. Love a pre that gives you that amazing focus and energy.
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    I have no idea how I have still never tried this.
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    Originally Posted by Anthony21 View Post
    I'll definitely check it out. Love a pre that gives you that amazing focus and energy.
    i didn't feel focus from it, but energy and strength were great.
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    Originally Posted by blokpost View Post
    i didn't feel focus from it, but energy and strength were great.
    I'll take those two anyday from a preworkout.
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    OP just like other stim tolerances you will build one to DMAA so results will demish at some point. I use DMAA fairly frequently and still get a hell of a kick from it but nothing like when I first tried it.
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    Originally Posted by carguy123 View Post
    OP just like other stim tolerances you will build one to DMAA so results will demish at some point. I use DMAA fairly frequently and still get a hell of a kick from it but nothing like when I first tried it.
    I wish there were bulk dmaa caps...
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    I wish there were bulk dmaa caps...
    they are readily available, as well as powder
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    If I take it twice a week (Monday and Thursday) then it works great. Otherwise I just crash from it in like 30 mins. Sucks cuz I could take Og jack3d everyday and never have a bad workout. Only use it on deadlift and squat days now and use neurocore maxout vortex or razor8 on other days
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    Great to hear OP, glad you enjoyed it

    I have been saying this for a few weeks now (since I first tried it), that it hits like a freakin' freight train. I mean I'm a pretty big guy (or like to think I am ) at 235+ lbs. right now and one scoop is all I need. I take it on my leg days (or days where I'm really dragging ...) and this stuff works like no other.

    If your into stims, and your into energy, this is for you. It's great to have on hand even if you just switch back and forth from your normal pre just to give yourself a change. It truly WORKS, one of the few products on the market that can honestly say that.






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    dem Mesomorph feels


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    Have not tried it yet, but will be soon!
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    Mesomorph is an absolute powerhouse when it comes to stimmed pres..I'd try to take it 30 min before you workout but at least an hour or 2 after your last meal
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    Mesomorph is an absolute powerhouse when it comes to stimmed pres..I'd try to take it 30 min before you workout but at least an hour or 2 after your last meal
    This, and I think VaughnTrue is the one who mentioned it last time, but I got the rocket pop flavor based on his recommendation..

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    I've been using Mesomorph for months now. Ive tried all the flavors I believe. It still hits me hard every time. Usually I take it 30-40 min before the gym. 4 times a week. My opinions on the flavors are as follows.

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    Can anyone confirm how much caffeine is in the product?
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    Originally Posted by ubernoob View Post
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    I said it in several other threads about the product and will say again. Amazing pre. The first few workouts you get an insane tunnel vision feel. I had no crash from it myself and just amazing workouts. The next few workouts had less tunnel vision but still the same level of energy and drive during my workouts with no crash.
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    Originally Posted by ubernoob View Post
    Can anyone confirm how much caffeine is in the product?
    Originally Posted by euro7muscle View Post
    Zero.
    Methylxanthine Anhydrous is caffeine and I believe around 300mg

    Also 65mg of DMAA
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    Originally Posted by carguy123 View Post
    Methylxanthine Anhydrous is caffeine and I believe around 300mg

    Also 65mg of DMAA
    Thanks that's what I thought originally and was just researching it.
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    Originally Posted by crpav View Post
    Thanks that's what I thought originally and was just researching it.
    haha had to do a quick goggle search just to be 100% sure myself
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    Originally Posted by carguy123 View Post
    Methylxanthine Anhydrous is caffeine and I believe around 300mg

    Also 65mg of DMAA

    this is correct.

    per serving, 300mg caffeine and 65mg DMAA
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    Ok, for guys who went back to other pres after this one, did it suck? Is this like, once you use it, you can't go back to other stimmed pres without a hefty stim break? Seems like going back to a more moderate PWO wouldn't be enjoyable after this stuff, if it's as crazy as people say...
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    Originally Posted by BenBlue View Post
    Ok, for guys who went back to other pres after this one, did it suck? Is this like, once you use it, you can't go back to other stimmed pres without a hefty stim break? Seems like going back to a more moderate PWO wouldn't be enjoyable after this stuff, if it's as crazy as people say...
    No, but what I normally do is:

    pre-workout that is caffeine focused, then when that loses its magic I switch to pre-workout with DMAA (I use mesomorph personally). Then I alternate that with a pre-workout with DMBA (AMP Citrate)... then when that stops I talk a stim break and repeat.
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    Originally Posted by BenBlue View Post
    Ok, for guys who went back to other pres after this one, did it suck? Is this like, once you use it, you can't go back to other stimmed pres without a hefty stim break? Seems like going back to a more moderate PWO wouldn't be enjoyable after this stuff, if it's as crazy as people say...
    No. My past several weeks since starting mesomorph has been:

    1st week - Monday - mesomorph, Wednesday - neurosurge, Friday - mesomorph
    2nd week - same...I think
    this week: Monday - mesomorph, today new Muscletech neurocore at 2 scoops, Friday will be mesomorph.

    I have found every workout still great on days not using mesomorph but with less focus. A lot of it comes down to improving my diet and my desire to crush weights is high right now so without that a pre won't do much except have me stimmed out and hating being in the gym.
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