Misc. Med Thread Vol. 3: caribbean diabetus strikes back

[kovalchuk71]

Looks like the MD/DO merger hurt USMDs the most, benefited DOs the most and also helped IMGs a bit (all based off stats). Interesting.

And damn that reddit SOAP thread was a nightmare to read.

It’s early, but I’m glad DOs didn’t get fukd. We had people at my program match ACGME derm and neurosurg. I was shocked.

[fitnessdoc2020]

I applied PM&R and did an away in it too. It was a pretty stressful experience but worked out in the end.

Thank man! I can sense the stress building up as MS3 is coming to an end. Thinking about also applying to Radiology and Ortho.

[WeekndOrNah]

See I'd much rather live alone, but current students at the school I'm going to say I'll most likely need a roommate because of the COL there.

If you don't mind me asking, how much is your rent? And do loans adequately cover your rent and other living expenses?

910/mo for rent. In all I would probably estimate $1200/mo for rent/utilities

If you're living in a mad expensive city like SF then yea. I'm in Omaha and my rent is pretty high bc I moved into a brand new apartment that was built from the ground up, as opposed to most apartments here being repurposed office buildings. Also live downtown and have great amenities. My rent is 3x what it was when I lived in a house with 5 other brahs prior to med school.

Estimated Cost of Attendance accounts for COL and is the maximum federal loans you can take out.

Honestly, don't worry about loans. We're all gonna make it. Staying mentally strong and sane in medical school is extremely difficult and having to worry about finances on top of it would suck complete ass. Sometimes you're so fkn stressed or tired after a long day that you just want to blow money on eating out, and those bits of convenience/relief that spending money provides adds up if that makes sense.

Somewhat related to the topic of money, but there's a girl in my class who literally just took Step 1 a few weeks ago... in March... when the rest of us took it in June 2018. She worked throughout the pre-clinical years because she worried about money. It most likely affected her studies bc I'm pretty sure she failed a few classes. Didn't feel prepared for Step bc she didn't study enough and pushed it back constantly for months on end. It created a vicious cycle where she had to keep working to pay rent bc she couldn't get loans disbursed bc she didn't take Step yet and thus wasn't enrolled as an MS3.

Now she's a full year behind (she could have rejoined our class earlier in the year and graduated on time by making up a rotation).

[vik66]

^wow thats ridic. Why didnt she just rely on loans like everyone else? The amount of interest she accrued on another year of loans prob made working not even worth it...


Congrats on match dudes. How did everyone do?

I matched FM at Kaiser San Diego, my number one choice. Super pumped about it.

[knot4reel91]

Matched my #1 university program in NY. Super pumped to do so as a DO with mediocre stats. Here's to getting bent over as an intern...but not before I spend the next few months alternating between lifting, drinking, and traveling.

[incomingbrOMS]

Looks like the MD/DO merger hurt USMDs the most, benefited DOs the most and also helped IMGs a bit (all based off stats). Interesting.

And damn that reddit SOAP thread was a nightmare to read.

Huge benefit to DOs this year to be able to apply in just one match, really only for the competitive fields though. Most of us who went into FM, IM, peds etc. could comfortably apply only NRMP and do great.

The kids who were getting ****ed for years were the ones applying for general surgery, orthopedics, plastics, neurosurg, ENT, derm etc. There were enough DO programs in those fields and they knew they'd get more DO vs. ACGME interviews so a lot of competitive applicants just didn't bother applying to ACGME places and stuck it out in the DO world for better chances of matching except for super competitive candidates (i.e.classmate of mine with 265+ both steps and got enough interviews to match ACGME derm at a university program). This year they were all released to apply to everywhere they wanted and rank them in order of how they actually wanted and apparently some of these DO students were actually competitive candidates.

The other thing you have to keep in mind is that DO schools are breeding like filthy rabbits right now (not in a good way, really contributing to how close we are to crunching American grads out of PGY1 spots), so the sheer volume of DOs applying to competitive specialties is also expanding. Even the new DO schools in bumfuk nowhere have a handful of bright kids who apply themselves and get dumb high step scores and want to be surgical sub-specialists.

EDIT: although apparently large percentages of some DO schools went unmatched pre-SOAP (like 10-15% of graduates).

[dxw]

Sup medbrahs, tooth mechanic checking in...

Common things being common, I would suspect it's your sleep apnea, my bro.

[incomingbrOMS]

Common things being common, I would suspect it's your sleep apnea, my bro.

Agree, the morning hit by a truck sounds like sleep apnea still unfortunately. I mean, you have sleep apnea after all.

[Haldiram]

I majored in healthcare admin and then went to med school. Unfortunately, med school kicked my ass and I failed out. What's done is done and I can't change anything. I gave it my best shot and I have no regrets. Where do I go from here? I have literally no work experience in everything and I've been applying for countless jobs only to get rejected.

[incomingbrOMS]

I majored in healthcare admin and then went to med school. Unfortunately, med school kicked my ass and I failed out. What's done is done and I can't change anything. I gave it my best shot and I have no regrets. Where do I go from here? I have literally no work experience in everything and I've been applying for countless jobs only to get rejected.

What are your interests?

[Haldiram]

What are your interests?

I really have no idea. I was forced into being a doctor since I was 5 so I never had a chance to think about it. I really enjoyed my healthcare admin major, but finding a job is it is near damn impossible. Managing a doctor's office would also be a major self esteem crusher - something that I can't afford at this point of my life.

[incomingbrOMS]

I really have no idea. I was forced into being a doctor since I was 5 so I never had a chance to think about it. I really enjoyed my healthcare admin major, but finding a job is it is near damn impossible. Managing a doctor's office would also be a major self esteem crusher - something that I can't afford at this point of my life.

Do you like leading a team or working from within one? Do you want a job anywhere near healthcare?

[Haldiram]

Do you like leading a team or working from within one? Do you want a job anywhere near healthcare?

I would really enjoy leading a team. I'm open to any field - doesn't have to be healthcare at all.

[RobParks2M]

I would really enjoy leading a team. I'm open to any field - doesn't have to be healthcare at all.

Wanna be a pharmacy tech?

[Hardlifter9]

Huge benefit to DOs this year to be able to apply in just one match, really only for the competitive fields though. Most of us who went into FM, IM, peds etc. could comfortably apply only NRMP and do great.

The kids who were getting ****ed for years were the ones applying for general surgery, orthopedics, plastics, neurosurg, ENT, derm etc. There were enough DO programs in those fields and they knew they'd get more DO vs. ACGME interviews so a lot of competitive applicants just didn't bother applying to ACGME places and stuck it out in the DO world for better chances of matching except for super competitive candidates (i.e.classmate of mine with 265+ both steps and got enough interviews to match ACGME derm at a university program). This year they were all released to apply to everywhere they wanted and rank them in order of how they actually wanted and apparently some of these DO students were actually competitive candidates.

The other thing you have to keep in mind is that DO schools are breeding like filthy rabbits right now (not in a good way, really contributing to how close we are to crunching American grads out of PGY1 spots), so the sheer volume of DOs applying to competitive specialties is also expanding. Even the new DO schools in bumfuk nowhere have a handful of bright kids who apply themselves and get dumb high step scores and want to be surgical sub-specialists.

EDIT: although apparently large percentages of some DO schools went unmatched pre-SOAP (like 10-15% of graduates).

source? just curious, not doubting.

[knot4reel91]

source? just curious, not doubting.

I know for a fact that there were 8-10 unmatched at my program, which represents 5%. I wouldn't doubt that the 10%+ is true of my class.

[WeekndOrNah]

Holy fck brahs I think I caught a big break.

I went to a prestigious (no e-brag) private high school with a yuge alumni network so I contacted them a few months ago asking if there were any alumni surgeons that could help my dumb ass out
At the same time I'm scrolling through VSAS saving programs I'm interested in


Alumni association gets back to me with a surgeon, and he happens to work in a city I'm very much interested in matching
... turns out he's also the faculty member for an externship at one of the hospitals I had saved on VSAS

this could be my big break brahs, pray 4 me

[kovalchuk71]

Holy fck brahs I think I caught a big break.

I went to a prestigious (no e-brag) private high school with a yuge alumni network so I contacted them a few months ago asking if there were any alumni surgeons that could help my dumb ass out
At the same time I'm scrolling through VSAS saving programs I'm interested in


Alumni association gets back to me with a surgeon, and he happens to work in a city I'm very much interested in matching
... turns out he's also the faculty member for an externship at one of the hospitals I had saved on VSAS

this could be my big break brahs, pray 4 me

Nice. Gsurg?

[WeekndOrNah]

Nice. Gsurg?

Yea gen surg

Breast surgical oncology. Chief of breast surgery at the hospital and the listed faculty for visiting student rotations for breast surg onc rotation

[muscle beast]

Yea gen surg

Breast surgical oncology. Chief of breast surgery at the hospital and the listed faculty for visiting student rotations for breast surg onc rotation

This is the type of relationship that you need to form and grab hold of by the balls. All it takes is for one big wig to say they want you, and you're in. Get ready to show him what that mouth do boyo!!

[WeekndOrNah]

This is the type of relationship that you need to form and grab hold of by the balls. All it takes is for one big wig to say they want you, and you're in. Get ready to show him what that mouth do boyo!!

i would do anything for this

sent him an email yesterday, pls respond

[MakeABanana]

This is the type of relationship that you need to form and grab hold of by the balls. All it takes is for one big wig to say they want you, and you're in. Get ready to show him what that mouth do boyo!!

This. Don't neglect the balls.

[WeekndOrNah]

True/False: Night shift keeps the patients alive for day team (and new admits)


Four IM HMS teams with 3 residents each w/ 14-16 patients during the day, 7am-4pm
Night team is only 2 residents covering ALL FOUR teams from 4pm until 7am


mind=blown

[SazabiBrah]

Would you guys recommend purchasing an Apple laptop and an iPad for med school?

I currently have a 4/5 year old Acer which still runs okay, but I'm not sure how much longer it will last.

[irmocool]

Would you guys recommend purchasing an Apple laptop and an iPad for med school?

I currently have a 4/5 year old Acer which still runs okay, but I'm not sure how much longer it will last.

Yes, and while you are at it buy only new copies of all the recommended textbooks as well. Take the summer prereading at least half of said books . #Gunner101

[MakeABanana]

True/False: Night shift keeps the patients alive for day team (and new admits)


Four IM HMS teams with 3 residents each w/ 14-16 patients during the day, 7am-4pm
Night team is only 2 residents covering ALL FOUR teams from 4pm until 7am


mind=blown

Nights start at 4 PM? Yuck.

Days end at 4 PM? Nice.

90 patients per night float resident is manageable so long as the day team doesn't drop the ball. When teams signed out to me when I was on intern year night float, I'd let nothing slip past me. If something wasn't addressed that should have been, I sent them back to finish it.

Hence why I'd chill for most of the night and maybe throw some IVs in for nurses I liked.

[WeekndOrNah]

Nights start at 4 PM? Yuck.

Days end at 4 PM? Nice.

90 patients per night float resident is manageable so long as the day team doesn't drop the ball. When teams signed out to me when I was on intern year night float, I'd let nothing slip past me. If something wasn't addressed that should have been, I sent them back to finish it.

Hence why I'd chill for most of the night and maybe throw some IVs in for nurses I liked.

holy fuk lol. meant 14-16 per team, not per resident.

my team got 2 admits but i haven't been called even tho i wrote my number on the board and met & told them. gonna excuse myself home at 10pm

[santal0l]

Started hooking up with one of the obgyn residents. Stay tuned for when this implodes.

[RobParks2M]

Started hooking up with one of the obgyn residents. Stay tuned for when this implodes.

You aren't obgyn though? What is the worst that can happen

[SazabiBrah]

Yes, and while you are at it buy only new copies of all the recommended textbooks as well. Take the summer prereading at least half of said books . #Gunner101

Will do, thanks for the tip brah