Misc. Med Thread Vol. 3: caribbean diabetus strikes back

[kovalchuk71]

There were some high tier programs but most were middle level programs (including my home school). All of the residents I talk to expected me to at least match at my home school with my stats, but apparently not. But thanks for the advice. I'll get through this.

The exact same situation happened to my friend last year, but with g. surg. Ranked at multiple programs but had to scramble. They ended up in a g. surg program so it all worked out. You'll be OK.

[WeekndOrNah]

Holy fuk brah. Hope it all works out for you jayhow92.

[muscle beast]

Misc I am absolutely stunned today. I didn't match into anesthesia with 250 and 251 step scores. I thought my interviews went well, have some research and multiple poster presentations under my belt. Not even into my home program that I really wanted to return to. I thought the faculty and residents liked me (I play bball with the residents when I can). SOAPing wasn't even a thought that crossed my mind at any point with 10 ranked programs. Did everything my advisors told me to do and still got fuked. This one hurts badly.

I applied pretty broadly. I thought my interviews were overall good. There were some tough ones, but most just felt like a normal conversation. Unless the program was stupidly hard this year, I can't figure out what went wrong.

Hey man, I'm sorry to hear. I'm sure you'll do well in the SOAP (or even reapplying if that's your preference). I will say though that many Anesthesia programs, even top ones, go mostly by score alone and will look past a lot of personality deficits. In your case, given you said you applied broadly with your 250/251, you just might have a red flag in a LOR. There's got to be something that, after having interviewed you, committees looked back on and became concerned.

Of course this could just be siht luck...but damn man, I'm pulling for you. Good luck broski, let us know if you need any help navigating the waters (though I don't have personal experience with SOAP)

[SwiftRick]

Misc I am absolutely stunned today. I didn't match into anesthesia with 250 and 251 step scores. I thought my interviews went well, have some research and multiple poster presentations under my belt. Not even into my home program that I really wanted to return to. I thought the faculty and residents liked me (I play bball with the residents when I can). SOAPing wasn't even a thought that crossed my mind at any point with 10 ranked programs. Did everything my advisors told me to do and still got fuked. This one hurts badly.

Damn bro. That sucks to hear. Best of luck on SOAP. We are all rooting for you. Those are killer step scores man.

[WeekndOrNah]

any updates brah?

Browsing Reddit and it seems like a war zone / nightmare fuel. Lots of ppl with better step scores than mine SOAPing

fukkkkkk

[jayhow92]

I did get a surg prelim spot so I'm good for a year. Hoping to get one of the remaining anesthesia adv spots. If not, I'm gonna re-apply during PGY-1 to a lot more places than 22.

But holy fuk you don't ever want to be in the SOAP brahs. By far the worst thing I've ever experienced in my life.

But man, things are apparently getting harder to get into. Apply broadly future matchers even if you have good stats. Don't get burned like I did.

[vik66]

Chicks wear em brah.

my friend is a GI fellow in miami and apparently they are big there. nothnxjeff

I did get a surg prelim spot so I'm good for a year. Hoping to get one of the remaining anesthesia adv spots. If not, I'm gonna re-apply during PGY-1 to a lot more places than 22.

But holy fuk you don't ever want to be in the SOAP brahs. By far the worst thing I've ever experienced in my life.

But man, things are apparently getting harder to get into. Apply broadly future matchers even if you have good stats. Don't get burned like I did.

glad you got it figured out man. No hate, but did you have any disciniplinary chit on your record? The two guys in my class who didnt match and fully expected to had scores way higher than the average for their specialties and good interview skills but both had some professionalism things on their record.

Good luck to everyone matching tomorrow. I am super excited and nervous. Doing family but ranked a lot of top tier programs out west...and im from AL. Fingers crossed.

[santal0l]

I did get a surg prelim spot so I'm good for a year. Hoping to get one of the remaining anesthesia adv spots. If not, I'm gonna re-apply during PGY-1 to a lot more places than 22.

But holy fuk you don't ever want to be in the SOAP brahs. By far the worst thing I've ever experienced in my life.

But man, things are apparently getting harder to get into. Apply broadly future matchers even if you have good stats. Don't get burned like I did.

Congrats brah. Sorry you had to go through that.

Anyone with the soap list know if any plastics programs went unmatched this year? Will rep for prime minister of details.

[wickedman]

I did get a surg prelim spot so I'm good for a year. Hoping to get one of the remaining anesthesia adv spots. If not, I'm gonna re-apply during PGY-1 to a lot more places than 22.

But holy fuk you don't ever want to be in the SOAP brahs. By far the worst thing I've ever experienced in my life.

But man, things are apparently getting harder to get into. Apply broadly future matchers even if you have good stats. Don't get burned like I did.

Happy for you bruh. Yeah I didn't even know what the process was like, since I assumed it happened to like 2% of people - but then I saw like 20% of my class didn't match and I read up on what actually goes down, looked God awful. ****ing crooked ass broken system that can potentially leave people with a wasted 4 years and hundreds of thousands in debt.

These scum bags will keep making new medical schools though while the number of residency spots stay the same + IMG increases. It's a joke. Saw people with stats much better than mine (yours included) getting screwed over.

[jayhow92]

my friend is a GI fellow in miami and apparently they are big there. nothnxjeff



glad you got it figured out man. No hate, but did you have any disciniplinary chit on your record? The two guys in my class who didnt match and fully expected to had scores way higher than the average for their specialties and good interview skills but both had some professionalism things on their record.

Good luck to everyone matching tomorrow. I am super excited and nervous. Doing family but ranked a lot of top tier programs out west...and im from AL. Fingers crossed.

No disciplinary marks on my record and no bad comments on my MSPE. I'm arranging a talk with my PD to see what went wrong with my match pretty soon.

[jayhow92]

Congrats brah. Sorry you had to go through that.

Anyone with the soap list know if any plastics programs went unmatched this year? Will rep for prime minister of details.

Lol nope. Every position was filled.

[jayhow92]

Happy for you bruh. Yeah I didn't even know what the process was like, since I assumed it happened to like 2% of people - but then I saw like 20% of my class didn't match and I read up on what actually goes down, looked God awful. ****ing crooked ass broken system that can potentially leave people with a wasted 4 years and hundreds of thousands in debt.

These scum bags will keep making new medical schools though while the number of residency spots stay the same + IMG increases. It's a joke. Saw people with stats much better than mine (yours included) getting screwed over.

Yea man it was awful. ERAS was down on Monday to about 3pm Tuesday so a whole SOAP day was lost. And with all the medical schools popping up all over the place, residency spots are going to get harder and harder to get with more people getting screwed. But there a fuk load of money to be made with it, so I don't see a change anytime soon.

[SazabiBrah]

How many of y’all have/had roommates for med school? How was it?

Also, is it worth going to 2nd Look Day for the school I’ll be attending?

[SwiftRick]

Damn just read through reddit SOAP thread.

Lots of people with amazing step scores not matching. What gives? Anything to do with DO/MD merge?

I got a 235 and was very proud of it. Apparently it's poverty af. Was thinking gas or FM...but think Imma go FM

[WeekndOrNah]

Damn just read through reddit SOAP thread.

Lots of people with amazing step scores not matching. What gives? Anything to do with DO/MD merge?

I got a 235 and was very proud of it. Apparently it's poverty af. Was thinking gas or FM...but think Imma go FM

Bro same I'm sweating with my 235 now.

Clearly a tough year for the match, my school did pretty well but not as outstanding as it did in the past 2 years.

[MakeABanana]

How many of y’all have/had roommates for med school? How was it?

Also, is it worth going to 2nd Look Day for the school I’ll be attending?

If you're locked in with the school and will be a future matriculant, I don't really see the point of another look. You'll have 4 years or even more to do that.

Also, congrats to everyone who matched.

[SazabiBrah]

If you're locked in with the school and will be a future matriculant, I don't really see the point of another look. You'll have 4 years or even more to do that.

Also, congrats to everyone who matched.

People on SDN are saying I should go to find potential roommates and apartments and stuff

[WeekndOrNah]

People on SDN are saying I should go to find potential roommates and apartments and stuff

Depends on the type of person you are.

I lived alone and loved it. Some classmates lived with roommates and absolutely hated their guts, others loved their roommates. It all depends on you, and if you were to get a roommate, how well you meshed with them.

[RobParks2M]

Bro same I'm sweating with my 235 now.

Clearly a tough year for the match, my school did pretty well but not as outstanding as it did in the past 2 years.

only gets tougher fam

[fitnessdoc2020]

Bro same I'm sweating with my 235 now.

Clearly a tough year for the match, my school did pretty well but not as outstanding as it did in the past 2 years.

Same my dude. I'm considering dual applying to Ortho and possibly another specialty.

[JCTWP46]

Same my dude. I'm considering dual applying to Ortho and possibly another specialty.

Thats what I did.

[SwiftRick]

Any tips for dual applications without one seeming like a back up?

[muscle beast]

Any tips for dual applications without one seeming like a back up?

1 - Have 2 different personal statements
2 - Be careful about applying to programs at the same institution
3 - Have separate LORs for each specialty and that you meet the LOR requirements for each program
4 - Rehearse pre-interview day which specialty you're interviewing so that you don't fuk up
5 - ???
6 - Profit

[fitnessdoc2020]

Thats what I did.

Which specialty and did you do an away in the other specialty?

[SazabiBrah]

Depends on the type of person you are.

I lived alone and loved it. Some classmates lived with roommates and absolutely hated their guts, others loved their roommates. It all depends on you, and if you were to get a roommate, how well you meshed with them.

See I'd much rather live alone, but current students at the school I'm going to say I'll most likely need a roommate because of the COL there.

If you don't mind me asking, how much is your rent? And do loans adequately cover your rent and other living expenses?

[Hardlifter9]

Looks like the MD/DO merger hurt USMDs the most, benefited DOs the most and also helped IMGs a bit (all based off stats). Interesting.

And damn that reddit SOAP thread was a nightmare to read.

[ClevelandBaller]

Sup medbrahs, tooth mechanic checking in. I know this isn't really a free medical advice thread but I feel like I'm in a serious (to me) situation and could really use some help from anyone with experience in the field of sleep medicine and/or fatigue. It doesn't matter to me if you reply here or PM me, I'd be seriously grateful to anyone who chimes in. Of course to anyone who needs help from me in return I'm more than happy to look at anything including photos and radiographs to answer dental questions for you or your family. Like many of you I really hate the way the current medical and dental insurance systems are set up and just want to speak with an experienced physician and skip all the bullcrap that insurance makes you go through (I'd even be more than happy to paypal any of you for a phone or text consult, just message me about it).

Brief backstory:
>Be me, 29 years old, dentist, pretty laid back life not a whole ton of stress.

>Constant underlying difficulty in life being a state of what feels to be chronic fatigue (like that feel when you were up late and had to wake up super early and only got like 3 hours of sleep). Eyes super heavy and red and the feeling seems to NEVER go away.

>Was a college athlete, very low BF %, still stay very active.

>Did a sleep study in dental school to try and address the issue. I've been able to push through and persevere in my career by what feels like sheer force of will, overcoming the constant feeling of needing to sleep or rest my eyes. Sleep study results showed significant apnea while sleeping on back, prescribed CPAP.

>I find that I'm intolerant of CPAP no matter what facemask or nose appliance I use, intolerant of dental mandibular advancement sleep appliance.

>I honestly don't think apnea is the issue. I only find that I snore while sleeping on my back and seem to sleep soundly when on my side or stomach. Sleeping partner confirms no snoring when on side and back.

>I'm a super laid back, low anxiety person. I don't feel that my fatigue stems from underlying anxiety.

>I've cut caffeine, go to bed very early now to try and maximize sleep (get 8-9h regularly). NO MATTER WHAT, wake up feeling like I just got hit by a truck. Doesn't matter whether its a week of sleeping 6h or a week of 12h. Same result every single time.

>Used sleep trackers, they tell me my sleep quality is often very high.

I'm getting kind of desperate to be honest brahs. Some days I feel like life is just really terrible and I just don't want to face the world when I feel like everyone is concerned about how fatigued I look.

[JCTWP46]

I applied PM&R and did an away in it too. It was a pretty stressful experience but worked out in the end.

[RonaldMcflurry]

Sup medbrahs, tooth mechanic checking in. I know this isn't really a free medical advice thread but I feel like I'm in a serious (to me) situation and could really use some help from anyone with experience in the field of sleep medicine and/or fatigue. It doesn't matter to me if you reply here or PM me, I'd be seriously grateful to anyone who chimes in. Of course to anyone who needs help from me in return I'm more than happy to look at anything including photos and radiographs to answer dental questions for you or your family. Like many of you I really hate the way the current medical and dental insurance systems are set up and just want to speak with an experienced physician and skip all the bullcrap that insurance makes you go through (I'd even be more than happy to paypal any of you for a phone or text consult, just message me about it).

Brief backstory:
>Be me, 29 years old, dentist, pretty laid back life not a whole ton of stress.

>Constant underlying difficulty in life being a state of what feels to be chronic fatigue (like that feel when you were up late and had to wake up super early and only got like 3 hours of sleep). Eyes super heavy and red and the feeling seems to NEVER go away.

>Was a college athlete, very low BF %, still stay very active.

>Did a sleep study in dental school to try and address the issue. I've been able to push through and persevere in my career by what feels like sheer force of will, overcoming the constant feeling of needing to sleep or rest my eyes. Sleep study results showed significant apnea while sleeping on back, prescribed CPAP.

>I find that I'm intolerant of CPAP no matter what facemask or nose appliance I use, intolerant of dental mandibular advancement sleep appliance.

>I honestly don't think apnea is the issue. I only find that I snore while sleeping on my back and seem to sleep soundly when on my side or stomach. Sleeping partner confirms no snoring when on side and back.

>I'm a super laid back, low anxiety person. I don't feel that my fatigue stems from underlying anxiety.

>I've cut caffeine, go to bed very early now to try and maximize sleep (get 8-9h regularly). NO MATTER WHAT, wake up feeling like I just got hit by a truck. Doesn't matter whether its a week of sleeping 6h or a week of 12h. Same result every single time.

>Used sleep trackers, they tell me my sleep quality is often very high.

I'm getting kind of desperate to be honest brahs. Some days I feel like life is just really terrible and I just don't want to face the world when I feel like everyone is concerned about how fatigued I look.

Try vitamin D3. Have you had your test/estrogen levels checked out? What about other bloodwork and nutrient deficiencies?

[ClevelandBaller]

Try vitamin D3. Have you had your test/estrogen levels checked out? What about other bloodwork and nutrient deficiencies?

I'm open to anything. I'd be happy to give D3 a shot although I'm somewhat skeptical it will solve the near crippling tiredness. I've never had bloodwork done before so I would also be very open to doing that. Over the years of trying to pinpoint the cause of this problem I've made sure to try various dietary changes and I currently eat a relatively balanced diet of lots of protein, carbs, vegetables, fruit, etc.