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    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Let me know so i can run away, i like where my shoulders are located atm
    I'll provide these


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    I think you'd really like Ha Long Bay and Vietnam in general - from chaotic city to wanderlusty nature, crazy traffic and loud markets to pretty lanterns at night, place just buzzes
    It's definitely on my list .... my parents got there a few years ago and raved about it

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    Just get good at sumo, will complement your deads anyway for two birds one stone
    My only attempts at Sumos have ended disastrously .... must try harder

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    Lmao, i'd crawl into a ditch too if the reason for my breakdown was lack of petrol - how'd you end up resolving?
    By time the RAA got there I'd got a 5l jerry can and topped the tank up. Still wouldn't start because I'd flattened the battery'. Of course, the two jerry cans in the car and the fact that the car and I smelt of petrol must have been a giveaway ... I told him that the car just died at the crest of the hill so he put it down as an 'unknown electrical failure .... ? slipping fan belt or alternator problem'. He said he couldn't find a cause but he jump started me and escorted me back home en-case I broke down on the way back
    The other thing was that my membership had expired in January so I had to rejoin over the phone so they could attend me
    The whole episode sounds like my life encapsulated

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    My wallet > yours atm, i'm plenty hot hehe
    Me and Clive Palmer

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    It's more reaction time than strength when it comes to core, e.g. an athlete can't exactly run around holding their breath or bracing their core for spinal stability cos that's just awks, they instead need a core that's fast enough to react to getting blindsided, sudden changes in direction etc. Same with lifting except getting blindsided is a random buckle from unseen weakness, changes in direction is core getting smaller after exhale etc, all done at high speed due to heavy weight. So you might have a strong core that allows you to finish a lift from a bad position, but not fast enough to save you from injury in the process - i believe the buzzword for it is having a reflexive core, and this is a pretty good vid on it where the guy is strong enough to hold a plank, but not reactive enough to save himself from bad positions when it should be insta-reflex
    'Reflexive Core': very cool vid and very interesting concept. I'll have to play around ... a lot of the work core work that I do is about maintaining stability with shifting loads but I suspect that my timeframes are pretty slow. One thing that I do note is that I activate my core on deads and squats for a good time before I lift (deads can be stupid long) and I can feel that burn me out by the time I attempt my first rep

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    Hehe hai twinsie! i'm the same with snatches and have been getting over it by sprinting then hitting warmup snatches after so i get practice at bracing against a gaspey core + vid now. Gives me something to fall back on in distress and nothing really compares to the death you feel after a 400/800m, so it brings perspective
    Only way I'm going to run 800m is if I have a gun pointed at me

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    3 to be exact =^___^=
    And we wuz robbed by those Victorian umpires .... didn't give a free in the last minute because it would have 'altered the result of the game'. Not making the correct decision also alters the result of the game. brb bitter and twisted

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    Hangover Saturdays - i've really gotta start making better choices, or friends 23/4

    1) LISS - 20 mins
    2) C&SJ - 135 x 1, 122.5 x 16 EMOM
    3) SGDL - 180 x 1, 162.5 x 8 EMOM

    Misc: Memories of the Sword is a really good asian movie if anyone's looking for something to watch over the weekend
    Those are some sick EMOM lifts Rally. Glutes and hams must've been fried after the squat jerks heading into the SGDLs
    OK, it's on the list: I saw lead actor in 'I saw the Devil' ... gruesome but loved it. Just watching 'Healer' series with daughter no. 1
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    I'll provide these
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    And i'll bring one of these for you

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    It's definitely on my list .... my parents got there a few years ago and raved about it
    Ooh where else did they go in Vietnam? For you i'd say Saigon, work your way up to Hoi An and Halong, then cross into Laos, then Burma, then down the Mekong into Thailand for the return or Cambodia for the revisit - trip will be chaotic city > serene city > wanderlusty nature and limestone islands > rural slice of life > fishing villages and houses on stilts > ancient asian temples > hookers and coke

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    My only attempts at Sumos have ended disastrously .... must try harder
    Zerchers rock

    The other way, and it's pretty naughty, is to push your knees together, ala good girl, when coming out of the hole, it'll load the adductors to cocontract the glutes to fire harder and faster - they feel adduction, glute med and min reflex abduct, femur now becomes super stable for glute max to rocket you out of the hole unchecked. It's something you see naturally whenever someone maxes, their knees coming together, it's known as valgus twitch and actively cued (or allowed) by elite Olys - Boyanka, Tian, North Korean comrade here - but you need epic mobility + Oly shoes to get away with it

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    By time the RAA got there I'd got a 5l jerry can and topped the tank up. Still wouldn't start because I'd flattened the battery'. Of course, the two jerry cans in the car and the fact that the car and I smelt of petrol must have been a giveaway ... I told him that the car just died at the crest of the hill so he put it down as an 'unknown electrical failure .... ? slipping fan belt or alternator problem'. He said he couldn't find a cause but he jump started me and escorted me back home en-case I broke down on the way back
    The other thing was that my membership had expired in January so I had to rejoin over the phone so they could attend me
    The whole episode sounds like my life encapsulated
    Speaking of, bae had her first huntsman across the windscreen when driving.... she's a real aussie now!

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    Me and Clive Palmer
    Karma for giving us Jacqui Lambie

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    'Reflexive Core': very cool vid and very interesting concept. I'll have to play around ... a lot of the work core work that I do is about maintaining stability with shifting loads but I suspect that my timeframes are pretty slow. One thing that I do note is that I activate my core on deads and squats for a good time before I lift (deads can be stupid long) and I can feel that burn me out by the time I attempt my first rep
    10 mins planks would help with endurance =^___^=

    Kettlebells would prob be best for no friends you, unilateral nature forces core to fire pretty hard and fast to keep you from twisting etc in a snatch, swing, press etc, with the kettlebell in itself being pretty random and dynamic - downside is don't get metcon warrior with it, has the highest shearing at the best of times, but with fatigue and delayed firing and reaction times + general sloppiness etc, you'll be spitting out intervertebral discs

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    Only way I'm going to run 800m is if I have a gun pointed at me
    And this is why you're emphysema Barney atm

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    And we wuz robbed by those Victorian umpires .... didn't give a free in the last minute because it would have 'altered the result of the game'. Not making the correct decision also alters the result of the game. brb bitter and twisted
    Tis what happens when you use up all your luck the week before =^___^=. Reckon they'll take Jobe's Brownlow?

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Those are some sick EMOM lifts Rally. Glutes and hams must've been fried after the squat jerks heading into the SGDLs
    OK, it's on the list: I saw lead actor in 'I saw the Devil' ... gruesome but loved it. Just watching 'Healer' series with daughter no. 1
    Healer > City Hunter, but main bae absolutely ruined her hair, why do girls gotta do that, cut their beautiful long hair to look like gremlins?

    Sorta not really, i'm pretty quad focused cos i like my glutes and hams acting as stabilisers to my hips and spine, than being prime movers - e.g. shoulders connect to hips via fascial lines, and since mine are inherent unstable, so are hips so i like having glutecepts thurr to stabilise, with hamcepts thurr for my ACLstrings, when i'm trying to catch and stand with a wobbly bar


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    1) Sprints - 400m x 8
    2) Snatch - 115 x 1, 105 x 16 EMOM
    3) Panda - 140 x 1, 125 x 5 EMOM

    Misc: Did my first ring handstand tonight!!!!! Then the fun bit was trying to get down, pressing yourself up is so much easier than lowering, always have an exit plan kiddies
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    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    And i'll bring one of these for you

    Spoiler!
    Haha .....

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Ooh where else did they go in Vietnam? For you i'd say Saigon, work your way up to Hoi An and Halong, then cross into Laos, then Burma, then down the Mekong into Thailand for the return or Cambodia for the revisit - trip will be chaotic city > serene city > wanderlusty nature and limestone islands > rural slice of life > fishing villages and houses on stilts > ancient asian temples > hookers and coke
    They spent 3 weeks and visited Hanoi, Da Nang, Halong, Saigon and had a great time. I love your idea of an itinerary and I'm due for a trip to Asia


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    Zerchers rock
    I've tried them but they felt really uncomfortable in the crook of my arm ... probably not good for my biceps tendons
    I have seen a harness though

    I might have to retrieve my SSB

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    The other way, and it's pretty naughty, is to push your knees together, ala good girl, when coming out of the hole, it'll load the adductors to cocontract the glutes to fire harder and faster - they feel adduction, glute med and min reflex abduct, femur now becomes super stable for glute max to rocket you out of the hole unchecked. It's something you see naturally whenever someone maxes, their knees coming together, it's known as valgus twitch and actively cued (or allowed) by elite Olys - Boyanka, Tian, North Korean comrade here - but you need epic mobility + Oly shoes to get away with it
    That's an awesome collection of vids, and some really exaggerated valgus moves. I used to concentrate much more on bringing in my knees/spreading the floor on the drive up from the heavy squats but I seem to have lost those cues
    I've not seen that Tian before ... that squat looked so easy and he's got a killer physique

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Speaking of, bae had her first huntsman across the windscreen when driving.... she's a real aussie now!
    That's awesome .... did she phone the parents in Gangnam to tell them about her battle with the beast?

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    10 mins planks would help with endurance =^___^=

    Kettlebells would prob be best for no friends you, unilateral nature forces core to fire pretty hard and fast to keep you from twisting etc in a snatch, swing, press etc, with the kettlebell in itself being pretty random and dynamic - downside is don't get metcon warrior with it, has the highest shearing at the best of times, but with fatigue and delayed firing and reaction times + general sloppiness etc, you'll be spitting out intervertebral discs
    Lots of work for me to do ... I love KB work but I had real trouble with unilateral swings and things like cleans because of shoulder stability overhead

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    And this is why you're emphysema Barney atm

    Tis what happens when you use up all your luck the week before =^___^=. Reckon they'll take Jobe's Brownlow?
    Should have won ... smh.
    Would be cruel to take his Brownlow .... I want them to take Hird's

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Healer > City Hunter, but main bae absolutely ruined her hair, why do girls gotta do that, cut their beautiful long hair to look like gremlins?
    So true, plus she died her hair an awful red-orange .... still love her as Kim Nana

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Sorta not really, i'm pretty quad focused cos i like my glutes and hams acting as stabilisers to my hips and spine, than being prime movers - e.g. shoulders connect to hips via fascial lines, and since mine are inherent unstable, so are hips so i like having glutecepts thurr to stabilise, with hamcepts thurr for my ACLstrings, when i'm trying to catch and stand with a wobbly bar
    It's working for you ... I keep reading stuff about squatting back PL style but I find it much more natural to squat high bar and oly style. Might well have something to do with my shoulders


    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post

    1) Sprints - 400m x 8
    2) Snatch - 115 x 1, 105 x 16 EMOM
    3) Panda - 140 x 1, 125 x 5 EMOM

    Misc: Did my first ring handstand tonight!!!!! Then the fun bit was trying to get down, pressing yourself up is so much easier than lowering, always have an exit plan kiddies : o
    Pic or it didn't happen

    Makes me feel lame about my ring holds
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    I've been too busy with work and the Raptors lately so I have been MIA from here.

    Mirin hard that you were able to do a handstand on the rings. That's seriously impressive.
    My shoulders are hurting just thinking about it.

    That and the heavy snatches or cleans are fine and dandy, but how much can you bench, Rall?


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    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Haha .....
    We did it for work bonding and we all bonded by targetting all the asshole bosses lul

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    They spent 3 weeks and visited Hanoi, Da Nang, Halong, Saigon and had a great time. I love your idea of an itinerary and I'm due for a trip to Asia
    Your parents sound cooler than you

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    I've tried them but they felt really uncomfortable in the crook of my arm ... probably not good for my biceps tendons
    I have seen a harness though
    [img]http://flawlessfitnessbook.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/zercher-harness-croppednew.jpg[img]
    I might have to retrieve my SSB
    Use to have one, sold cos it sucked - you move around it, it doesn't move with you if that makes sense, e.g. bottom digs into abs so you naturally start contorting to avoid it

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    That's an awesome collection of vids, and some really exaggerated valgus moves. I used to concentrate much more on bringing in my knees/spreading the floor on the drive up from the heavy squats but I seem to have lost those cues
    I've not seen that Tian before ... that squat looked so easy and he's got a killer physique
    I love how they're all nonchalant about it, no screaming, psyching up, it's just unrack, bop, done! Also, crab gills

    Just make a serious effort to bring up your adductors and most probs will resolve without having to specifically cue and bodge up movement - i have never seen a baby do the goofy cues we do to squat, they simply blop down

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    That's awesome .... did she phone the parents in Gangnam to tell them about her battle with the beast?
    Nah she called me crying with coffee all over the dashboard like i'm never coming out, can you pick me up? Just uber and i'll pick up the car late... NO! what if it jumps out onto my hair when i open the door?!! Where's it now? Think it ran somewhere in the engine, dunno... ok, cover the vents then before i get there, they can crawl through =^___^=

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Lots of work for me to do ... I love KB work but I had real trouble with unilateral swings and things like cleans because of shoulder stability overhead
    Is it just awks from being unco/new movement, or do you have actual probs? With uni swings, exposes core weakness, and kb is actually supposed to increase shoulder stability - you have to grip it pretty hard which increases irradiation for surrounding stability, and cos the weight rests on your forearm, it physically drags your shoulder backwards into ER to centrate it for socket stability

    But if you don't like it, try dis - concept is as you row, core has to react and catch dangly legs, then make it harder with chins from L-sit, straddle etc. This for upper and both will bode well for muscleup goals - the rows/chins teach explosiveness cos they're deadstop, the taps even stability

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Should have won ... smh.
    Would be cruel to take his Brownlow .... I want them to take Hird's
    They all deserve Brownlows if they were playing with Warfarin imo

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    So true, plus she died her hair an awful red-orange .... still love her as Kim Nana
    Yah, i like things where the main chick is badass

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    It's working for you ... I keep reading stuff about squatting back PL style but I find it much more natural to squat high bar and oly style. Might well have something to do with my shoulders
    Should have a go anyways, law of accommodation and law of diminishing returns, doing the same thing over and over leads to staleness and plateaus, you need to keep challenging yourself in diff movement patterns if you wanna keep safely progressing - fronts, shoes, SSB, goblet, overhead, wide, narrow, low bar, high bar etc etc

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Pic or it didn't happen

    Makes me feel lame about my ring holds
    Bae's been doing silk classes, felt like a total ******* i couldn't be a bat like her too, so had to try but in a cooler man way - she was totally impressed before i started shrieking for halp

    Originally Posted by Squid24 View Post
    One week out and I missed a lot....

    Love that harness.
    You need better taste :/

    How was the vacay mate?

    Originally Posted by viennafat View Post
    I've been too busy with work and the Raptors lately so I have been MIA from here.

    Mirin hard that you were able to do a handstand on the rings. That's seriously impressive.
    My shoulders are hurting just thinking about it.

    That and the heavy snatches or cleans are fine and dandy, but how much can you bench, Rall?


    PS - I tried Zercher squats once and thought that I severed my bicep. Never again.
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    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    We did it for work bonding and we all bonded by targetting all the asshole bosses lul
    Sounds like when we went paint balling as a work bonding exercise some time ago ... I was peppered

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Your parents sound cooler than you
    Rents have just spent 3 weeks in NZ, last year was a cruise across the top end .. Darwin, Broome, Indonesia. Year before was cruise from Greece through Med to Surinam, Brazil and Argentina. Year before was Van to Alaska
    living the high life with my inheritance

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Use to have one, sold cos it sucked - you move around it, it doesn't move with you if that makes sense, e.g. bottom digs into abs so you naturally start contorting to avoid it
    I can see it having a key role at the Mardi Gras

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    I love how they're all nonchalant about it, no screaming, psyching up, it's just unrack, bop, done! Also, crab gills

    Just make a serious effort to bring up your adductors and most probs will resolve without having to specifically cue and bodge up movement - i have never seen a baby do the goofy cues we do to squat, they simply blow down
    Those lats!
    I still have hopes for my squats .... the squat record for my age/wt is still only 162.5 Deadlift is only 221 so that's not even impossible if I could get my head right

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Nah she called me crying with coffee all over the dashboard like i'm never coming out, can you pick me up? Just uber and i'll pick up the car late... NO! what if it jumps out onto my hair when i open the door?!! Where's it now? Think it ran somewhere in the engine, dunno... ok, cover the vents then before i get there, they can crawl through =^___^=
    hahaha ... can see it!

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Is it just awks from being unco/new movement, or do you have actual probs? With uni swings, exposes core weakness, and kb is actually supposed to increase shoulder stability - you have to grip it pretty hard which increases irradiation for surrounding stability, and cos the weight rests on your forearm, it physically drags your shoulder backwards into ER to centrate it for socket stability

    But if you don't like it, try dis - concept is as you row, core has to react and catch dangly legs, then make it harder with chins from L-sit, straddle etc. This for upper and both will bode well for muscleup goals - the rows/chins teach explosiveness cos they're deadstop, the taps even stability
    I was thinking unco and de-skilled but as I've worked through other problems (like hips/knees) it's starting to show up with a few things I get asked to do. A few months ago JP got me to try some KB swings with a KB in each hand = could not do it at all. On Thursday, Ash (my special forces rehab guy) tried to get me to do a single handed KB press overhead: 8kg in a clean grip and press overhead ... couldn't even start to because my elbow swings out. Problem is (I think): no ER at all both GHJ and no SS R shoulder (so no anterior stability). Two hands overhead = OK; single arm OH or out front = no stability at all

    Really like the look of those taps ... something to do at home

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Should have a go anyways, law of accommodation and law of diminishing returns, doing the same thing over and over leads to staleness and plateaus, you need to keep challenging yourself in diff movement patterns if you wanna keep safely progressing - fronts, shoes, SSB, goblet, overhead, wide, narrow, low bar, high bar etc etc
    Today I did OHSs with 40kg ... easy weight to squat but such a challenge to keep stable. Had to go very wide and deep for it but it felt good

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    Bae's been doing silk classes, felt like a total ******* i couldn't be a bat like her too, so had to try but in a cooler man way - she was totally impressed before i started shrieking for halp
    Genital flossing

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    1) LISS - 30 mins
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    85kg OHLs FTW! 85kg regular lunges has me sh!tting bricks and I shat bricks with 40kg OHSs today
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    Sounds like when we went paint balling as a work bonding exercise some time ago ... I was peppered
    We ran out of paint before we even got to the field for ours

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    Rents have just spent 3 weeks in NZ, last year was a cruise across the top end .. Darwin, Broome, Indonesia. Year before was cruise from Greece through Med to Surinam, Brazil and Argentina. Year before was Van to Alaska
    living the high life with my inheritance
    My parents "cruised" from Asia to Aus and have stayed evar since =^___^=

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    Esp when paired with purple belts!

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    Those lats!
    I still have hopes for my squats .... the squat record for my age/wt is still only 162.5 Deadlift is only 221 so that's not even impossible if I could get my head right
    And how will you get there when you keep skipping mag-ort sessions cos CF keeps you leaving dejected as usual? =^___^=

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    hahaha ... can see it!
    She hit a 55 @ 46 snatch today, lil pocket rocket! Still can't take out the rubbish doe :/

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    I was thinking unco and de-skilled but as I've worked through other problems (like hips/knees) it's starting to show up with a few things I get asked to do. A few months ago JP got me to try some KB swings with a KB in each hand = could not do it at all. On Thursday, Ash (my special forces rehab guy) tried to get me to do a single handed KB press overhead: 8kg in a clean grip and press overhead ... couldn't even start to because my elbow swings out. Problem is (I think): no ER at all both GHJ and no SS R shoulder (so no anterior stability). Two hands overhead = OK; single arm OH or out front = no stability at all

    Really like the look of those taps ... something to do at home
    Swings (single hand, with ONE kb) shows up core asymmetries pretty well - e.g. if you mix grip, then one side only knows how to fire in under, other over, which over time causes one hip to rotate forward, other backward, to rubix hips and shred SI joint

    Presses sounds like you jumped right in and didn't go through the proper progressions - i.e. bad start position = bad finish. Should be rack for time to rebuild mobility > rack with indirect movement via lunges, squats etc to rebuild stability (awaken neural) > rack with halp via push press to create neural, then the actual press itself when things have been neuraled, mobilised and stabilised

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Today I did OHSs with 40kg ... easy weight to squat but such a challenge to keep stable. Had to go very wide and deep for it but it felt good
    Pull the bar apart, use a band and you'll see what i mean - engaged scaps kill shoulder wobbles

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    Pretty hot actually

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    85kg OHLs FTW! 85kg regular lunges has me sh!tting bricks and I shat bricks with 40kg OHSs today
    Umm, regular lunges scurrr me too, dat dislocation risk


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    Misc: After 16+ years lifting i've found squats need variety, deads volume - squats require the most mobility and too much volume destroys that, repetition becomes overuse becomes stiffness and tightness ala Smolov always leaving you grizzled, whereas Oly lifters who squat all day err day get away with it cos they front, back, OHS, hang, box, Oly, jump etc etc - i.e. train the motion, skirt the movement. With deads, since it's a pure concentric lift, how hard and fast can you fire, it's more about indirect volume ala RDLs, SLDs, BBR etc to build muscle (whilst providing a balancing eccentric) which increases potential for firing, then direct volume with the actual movement itself to functionalise new found gains
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    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    My parents "cruised" from Asia to Aus and have stayed evar since =^___^=
    Where were these guys when we needed them?





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    Esp when paired with purple belts + a G string!
    ... hey I've got the outfit


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    And how will you get there when you keep skipping mag-ort sessions cos CF keeps you leaving dejected as usual? =^___^=
    I know ... I know .... stop being the good angel sitting on my shoulder
    See what happens on Thursday ... I'm expecting a deadlift ladder

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    She hit a 55 @ 46 snatch today, lil pocket rocket! Still can't take out the rubbish doe :/
    Srs ... I'm impressed!
    And Gangnam girls have servants to take out the rubbish or else they marry them

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Swings (single hand, with ONE kb) shows up core asymmetries pretty well - e.g. if you mix grip, then one side only knows how to fire in under, other over, which over time causes one hip to rotate forward, other backward, to rubix hips and shred SI joint

    Presses sounds like you jumped right in and didn't go through the proper progressions - i.e. bad start position = bad finish. Should be rack for time to rebuild mobility > rack with indirect movement via lunges, squats etc to rebuild stability (awaken neural) > rack with halp via push press to create neural, then the actual press itself when things have been neuraled, mobilised and stabilised

    Pull the bar apart, use a band and you'll see what i mean - engaged scaps kill shoulder wobbles
    It was interesting doing the OHSs ... I had to clean and press the bar to get overhead and actually failed the first attempt because not enough leg drive ... at 40kg
    I would like to try and work at he snatch and C&J but I'm very wary of stirring up the SIJ/facet with hyperextension

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Sat 30/4

    1) LISS - 20 mins
    2) C&SJ - 130 x 1, 125 x 16 EMOM
    3) SGDL - 210 x 1, 180 x 3 singles

    Misc: After 16+ years lifting i've found squats need variety, deads volume - squats require the most mobility and too much volume destroys that, repetition becomes overuse becomes stiffness and tightness ala Smolov always leaving you grizzled, whereas Oly lifters who squat all day err day get away with it cos they front, back, OHS, hang, box, Oly, jump etc etc - i.e. train the motion, skirt the movement. With deads, since it's a pure concentric lift, how hard and fast can you fire, it's more about indirect volume ala RDLs, SLDs, BBR etc to build muscle (whilst providing a balancing eccentric) which increases potential for firing, then direct volume with the actual movement itself to functionalise new found gains
    Very interesting thoughts (and having done most of the wrong things ... I'd agree)
    Huge EMOM C&SJ and very jealous of that SGDL@210
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    ... hey I've got the outfit
    And the DVT stockings!

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    I know ... I know .... stop being the good angel sitting on my shoulder
    See what happens on Thursday ... I'm expecting a deadlift ladder
    Fatigue isn't programming

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    Srs ... I'm impressed!
    And Gangnam girls have servants to take out the rubbish or else they marry them
    It's why i do it, they always bang the help

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    It was interesting doing the OHSs ... I had to clean and press the bar to get overhead and actually failed the first attempt because not enough leg drive ... at 40kg
    I would like to try and work at he snatch and C&J but I'm very wary of stirring up the SIJ/facet with hyperextension
    Depends why you wanna learn the lifts - if for athletic benefits then kettlebell swings + snatch balance do the same thing. If aesthetics, then i reckon snatch balances are pretty in their own right, or squat jerks off the rack

    For the full lifts themselves, agreed in the pre-edit that you prob would injure yourself cos you squat too high but then that annoyed me cos i don't like limitations - there's three ways to get the bar up as a winged lifter: catch low to negate need for shoulder rotation, but that requires epic mobility; heave the bar up and have any potential hyperextension controlled by an epic core; or catch wide with feet out to shorten height, but that requires epic adductors cos you will be squatting up wide. Rally: 1, Self Defeating Fit: 0 =^___^=


    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Very interesting thoughts (and having done most of the wrong things ... I'd agree)
    Huge EMOM C&SJ and very jealous of that SGDL@210
    That's just my experience, what's yours?


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    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
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    I saw that about 'still squatting high'
    I thought: 'I'm trying ... may as well just sit on the couch and watch MKR'

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Busy scaring children?
    I love that pic of Dutton ...... can't believe hearing him blame refugee advocates for people self-immolating

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    And the DVT stockings!
    And I'm not going to shave ... stockings plus my legs and I'll look like a German housewife

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Fatigue isn't programming
    True ... but I think of it more as a mental exercise to take my mind off the numbers and let some automaticity float to the top

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Depends why you wanna learn the lifts - if for athletic benefits then kettlebell swings + snatch balance do the same thing. If aesthetics, then i reckon snatch balances are pretty in their own right, or squat jerks off the rack
    I'm greedy: I want both the aesthetic and athletic benefits ... I see the snatch as an exercise that I have the shoulder mobility for and I need an upper body exercise to rebuild shoulder, arm and chest strength and size. Problem is anterior stability .... I still think about getting new tendons if a good new product comes out

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    For the full lifts themselves, agreed in the pre-edit that you prob would injure yourself cos you squat too high but then that annoyed me cos i don't like limitations - there's three ways to get the bar up as a winged lifter: catch low to negate need for shoulder rotation, but that requires epic mobility; heave the bar up and have any potential hyperextension controlled by an epic core; or catch wide with feet out to shorten height, but that requires epic adductors cos you will be squatting up wide. Rally: 1, Self Defeating Fit: 0 =^___^=
    hmmm .... wipeout no. 3. Wide is not my thang. No. 2 possible ... lots of hang snatches. No.1 maybe ... probably the best option but can't squat



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    That's just my experience, what's yours?
    Not sure if srs but just BB back squatting the same way (plus road cycling everywhere) for most of my life got me tight and inflexible. Mixing it around the last 3.5 years ... box, high bar squats, pistols, lunges etc etc has got me much more flexible and stronger all round. I admire the CrossFitters for the variety of squat for and the mobility
    Deads ... had my best ever progress with deads (and highest LBM) while doing lots of RDLs, Pendlays, all sorts of rows, Mag-Ort

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    3) Panda - 90 x 5 EMOM
    Did you see the 1st Regional Event?
    Right up your alley:
    EVENT 1

    10 squat snatches (185/135 lb.), by 2:00
    8 squat snatches (205/145 lb.), by 4:00
    6 squat snatches (225/155 lb.), by 6:00
    4 squat snatches (245/165 lb.), by 8:00
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    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    I saw that about 'still squatting high'
    I thought: 'I'm trying ... may as well just sit on the couch and watch MKR'
    Hehe i'm funny =^___^=

    (meant by Oly standards)

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    I love that pic of Dutton ...... can't believe hearing him blame refugee advocates for people self-immolating
    This made me lul

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    And I'm not going to shave ... stockings plus my legs and I'll look like a German housewife
    You'd be quite the catch in Tasmania!

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    True ... but I think of it more as a mental exercise to take my mind off the numbers and let some automaticity float to the top
    Why not just lift MO fast?

    Ladder - 2990/24 = 125 per rep
    Week 7 - 3870/28 = 138 per rep

    MO numbers: 135 x 24, 150 x 2, 165 x 2

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    I'm greedy: I want both the aesthetic and athletic benefits ... I see the snatch as an exercise that I have the shoulder mobility for and I need an upper body exercise to rebuild shoulder, arm and chest strength and size. Problem is anterior stability .... I still think about getting new tendons if a good new product comes out
    Snatch balance is the starting progression if you ever do want to start - strong pullers have to work top down, triple ext isn't the prob, it's slowing down the bar for the catch overhead - i.e. most newbs pull 100, by the time a 40 snatch gets overhead, bar speed's died for an easy catch vs 190 puller where the bar will keep flying and take shoulders with it

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    hmmm .... wipeout no. 3. Wide is not my thang. No. 2 possible ... lots of hang snatches. No.1 maybe ... probably the best option but can't squat

    You do make 67% look like tentative death

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Not sure if srs but just BB back squatting the same way (plus road cycling everywhere) for most of my life got me tight and inflexible. Mixing it around the last 3.5 years ... box, high bar squats, pistols, lunges etc etc has got me much more flexible and stronger all round. I admire the CrossFitters for the variety of squat for and the mobility
    Deads ... had my best ever progress with deads (and highest LBM) while doing lots of RDLs, Pendlays, all sorts of rows, Mag-Ort
    For me, squat variety has taught adaptability - getting thrown out of your groove due to heavy weight etc but still being able to safely complete the lift cos you're used to squatting in a wide range of ways - e.g. a high bar not being scared of being buckled forward cos they also low bar. With deads, i view it as horsepower - building the biggest engine you can with accessories, then finetuning it with practice

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Did you see the 1st Regional Event?
    Right up your alley:
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    10 squat snatches (185/135 lb.), by 2:00
    8 squat snatches (205/145 lb.), by 4:00
    6 squat snatches (225/155 lb.), by 6:00
    4 squat snatches (245/165 lb.), by 8:00
    2 squat snatches (265/175 lb.), by 11:00
    I bet Boyanka can do that in her sleep


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    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Hehe i'm funny =^___^=

    (meant by Oly standards)
    I know .. I'm trying to get deeper. Got to widen my stance a bit and drop into it but the ITB is flaring up again

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    This made me lul
    That's the way they think! Mal and his wife own 8 properties
    Anyway ... I lost half my super this week and in a couple of weeks I lose 70% of everything else so, if I buy my kids a house, it will be in Whyalla

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    You'd be quite the catch in Tasmania!
    Hahaha ... did laugh at that!

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Why not just lift MO fast?

    Ladder - 2990/24 = 125 per rep
    Week 7 - 3870/28 = 138 per rep

    MO numbers: 135 x 24, 150 x 2, 165 x 2
    True, although the ladder at least took my mind off things ... don't know if I could do MO EMOM

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Snatch balance is the starting progression if you ever do want to start - strong pullers have to work top down, triple ext isn't the prob, it's slowing down the bar for the catch overhead - i.e. most newbs pull 100, by the time a 40 snatch gets overhead, bar speed's died for an easy catch vs 190 puller where the bar will keep flying and take shoulders with it
    I've done it with just the bar and I've still managed to knock myself on the back off the skull
    I'll try and play with it tomorrow

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    You do make 67% look like tentative death



    For me, squat variety has taught adaptability - getting thrown out of your groove due to heavy weight etc but still being able to safely complete the lift cos you're used to squatting in a wide range of ways - e.g. a high bar not being scared of being buckled forward cos they also low bar. With deads, i view it as horsepower - building the biggest engine you can with accessories, then finetuning it with practice
    I am very tentative with the squats and it really shows up with the first rep on most sets. One of the things I'm trying to work on is getting more deliberate in the descent
    Agree with all the above


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    I bet Boyanka can do that in her sleep


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    3) HS+OHL - 87.5 x 2+1 song x 3
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    I know .. I'm trying to get deeper. Got to widen my stance a bit and drop into it but the ITB is flaring up again
    Maybe you're just not meant to squat deepasaurus? (e.g. wide hips have more mobility, narrow more powah)

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    That's the way they think! Mal and his wife own 8 properties
    Anyway ... I lost half my super this week and in a couple of weeks I lose 70% of everything else so, if I buy my kids a house, it will be in Whyalla
    Damn, if that was the contested settlement then she must've really been going for you :/

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    Hahaha ... did laugh at that!
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    True, although the ladder at least took my mind off things ... don't know if I could do MO EMOM
    Have some faith!

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    I've done it with just the bar and I've still managed to knock myself on the back off the skull
    I'll try and play with it tomorrow
    Could be worse, 1 2 3 and 4

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    I am very tentative with the squats and it really shows up with the first rep on most sets. One of the things I'm trying to work on is getting more deliberate in the descent
    Agree with all the above
    Jump as high as you can, like really try and touch the ceiling and if you clonk the landing, then you prob just dunno how to absorb weight - landing should be nice and soft like a ketteh =^___^=

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Huge weight on the OHLs ... can't believe that you do those for a whole song!
    So glad it's over, next week i gets a break then gonna switch to overhead stepups instead


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    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Maybe you're just not meant to squat deepasaurus? (e.g. wide hips have more mobility, narrow more power)
    Could be ... squats got off the rails for 6 months late last year because of the ITB/TFL but keeping a narrower stance was able to build back up. Still got to find that sweet spot. Maybe got to angle my feet and knees more even if I stay narrow

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    Damn, if that was the contested settlement then she must've really been going for you :/
    Go away money
    Bitter and twisted divorcee friends p!ssing in her ear: wanted 83% of non-super + 70% of super ..... court was going to cost another $150,000 in legals so she accepted offer a month ago. Now is asking for more

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    Ever been? Had some of the best food thurrr in my lyfe
    Yeah but have you evah been to SA?
    Thought not!

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    Have some faith!
    Probably my worst flaw
    .... apart from 5'6

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    Could be worse, 1 2 3 and 4
    Woooooo ... 1. and 4. were just funny, but 2. and 3. were scary

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    Jump as high as you can, like really try and touch the ceiling and if you clonk the landing, then you prob just dunno how to absorb weight - landing should be nice and soft like a ketteh =^___^=
    OK ..... I immediately think 'aching knees'. Probably a sign

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    So glad it's over, next week i gets a break then gonna switch to overhead stepups instead


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    So, overhead step-ups is a break?! Fukdat4ajk!

    Very cool EMOM
    Good thoughts .. I don't do walkouts but I have gone up to 4pps on the box squats as a halfway house. Should do some walkouts at 4pps+
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    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Could be ... squats got off the rails for 6 months late last year because of the ITB/TFL but keeping a narrower stance was able to build back up. Still got to find that sweet spot. Maybe got to angle my feet and knees more even if I stay narrow
    Have you ruled out all other options, e.g. stiffness from overuse, stiffness from metcon, crappy lateral stability, crappy strength (adductors etc), crappy activation (psoas), crappy patterning, different footwear etc?

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    Go away money
    Bitter and twisted divorcee friends p!ssing in her ear: wanted 83% of non-super + 70% of super ..... court was going to cost another $150,000 in legals so she accepted offer a month ago. Now is asking for more
    What a bitch, not amicable in the slightest. How you holding up mate?

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    Yeah but have you evah been to SA?
    Thought not!
    Played cricket der once as a teenage mutant ninja turtle

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    Probably my worst flaw
    .... apart from 5'6
    Be positive, that's old world tall!

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    Woooooo ... 1. and 4. were just funny, but 2. and 3. were scary
    Fun fact, reason why bumpers are the height they are is to clear body/head in case of uh-oh

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    OK ..... I immediately think 'aching knees'. Probably a sign
    Means muscles aren't being used as shock absorbers so body's naturally putting the brakes on so you don't come crashing down on joints - i.e. can't be helped on a jump but going slow on a squat so muscles have time to sequence and coordinate and as the reps go on, becomes more automatic leading to smoother and faster movement. So for you might be one of those go slow to go fast things, or maybe try going slow death slow on warmups to get things firing and sequenced earlier for top

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    So, overhead step-ups is a break?! Fukdat4ajk!

    Very cool EMOM
    Good thoughts .. I don't do walkouts but I have gone up to 4pps on the box squats as a halfway house. Should do some walkouts at 4pps+
    Aerobic steps hehe =^___^=

    I think it's important cos it builds familiarity with the weight, instead of thinking ****, heavy heavy heavy heavy heavy, you're used to it so all you need to do is focus on moving it, not how the **** are you gonna take your next breath with lungs being crushed etc. Also, can i haz your monolift attachments den? =^___^=


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    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Have you ruled out all other options, e.g. stiffness from overuse, stiffness from metcon, crappy lateral stability, crappy strength (adductors etc), crappy activation (psoas), crappy patterning, different footwear etc?
    Gawd you are such a hard task master! Overuse .. don't think so but I suppose it has to an initial strain and then repetitive aggravation. Stiffness from metcon .. I don't feel especially tight and I don't think the metcon aggravates it. Lateral stability is OK I think. Crappy strength .... adductors are weak-sauce ( at least relative to quads, hams, glutes). Crappy patterning ... could well be. Footwear ... hasn't changed. I squat barefoot or in my no-rise vibrate soled shoes
    What I think I've done is, as I'd got stronger with the squats I'd started to move wider (because I can feel that I do get a lot more glute activation and strength) but I was trying to get deeper with the squats as well = strained TFL/ITB probably by trying to control the squat down rather than commit to it

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    What a bitch, not amicable in the slightest. How you holding up mate?
    It's been hard (dark tunnel sort of stuff) and I'm only just starting to see the light. Sh!te still gets me down though so I'm hoping it all gets finalised this month

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    So how did you bowl dressed as Donatello?

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    Be positive, that's old world tall!
    1300s black death tall

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    Fun fact, reason why bumpers are the height they are is to clear body/head in case of uh-oh
    Hmmm ... had not occurred to me about the bumper height. I could see it happening so easily

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Means muscles aren't being used as shock absorbers so body's naturally putting the brakes on so you don't come crashing down on joints - i.e. can't be helped on a jump but going slow on a squat so muscles have time to sequence and coordinate and as the reps go on, becomes more automatic leading to smoother and faster movement. So for you might be one of those go slow to go fast things, or maybe try going slow death slow on warmups to get things firing and sequenced earlier for top
    I used to do paused squats as part of my warm-up for squats and I should probably do it again

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    Aerobic steps hehe =^___^=
    So wearing a leotard then?

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    I think it's important cos it builds familiarity with the weight, instead of thinking ****, heavy heavy heavy heavy heavy, you're used to it so all you need to do is focus on moving it, not how the **** are you gonna take your next breath with lungs being crushed etc. Also, can i haz your monolift attachments den? =^___^=
    I always get that 'sh!t this is heavy' feeling at home but not so much with JP
    Can't have the mono lifts cos they are cool ... even if I'm not

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    You poor soul
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    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Gawd you are such a hard task master! Overuse .. don't think so but I suppose it has to an initial strain and then repetitive aggravation. Stiffness from metcon .. I don't feel especially tight and I don't think the metcon aggravates it. Lateral stability is OK I think. Crappy strength .... adductors are weak-sauce ( at least relative to quads, hams, glutes). Crappy patterning ... could well be. Footwear ... hasn't changed. I squat barefoot or in my no-rise vibrate soled shoes
    What I think I've done is, as I'd got stronger with the squats I'd started to move wider (because I can feel that I do get a lot more glute activation and strength) but I was trying to get deeper with the squats as well = strained TFL/ITB probably by trying to control the squat down rather than commit to it
    Try Oly shoes and bringing up your adductors den

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    It's been hard (dark tunnel sort of stuff) and I'm only just starting to see the light. Sh!te still gets me down though so I'm hoping it all gets finalised this month
    Any plans once it's all done and over?

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    So how did you bowl dressed as Donatello?
    Like crap, but did score a neat 80 doe - bet you can't say dat, that you've hit a boundary at the Adelaide Oval =^___^=

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    1300s black death tall
    Be glad you survived such terrible and trying times!

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    Hmmm ... had not occurred to me about the bumper height. I could see it happening so easily
    It's why i Oly with these bad boys

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    I used to do paused squats as part of my warm-up for squats and I should probably do it again
    W/e works, i just bunny hops round the gym lul

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    So wearing a leotard then?
    ^ in this

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    I always get that 'sh!t this is heavy' feeling at home but not so much with JP
    Can't have the mono lifts cos they are cool ... even if I'm not
    It's cos you know if anything were to happen, daughters prob wouldn't find you till two weeks later with half your face mauled off cos they forgot to feed the dog too - you know it's true

    S/N: I thought these would rock after seeing this, but they totally suck :/

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    Fukmeded .... can not believe it's 3 years since
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    It's been too long mate, let's get kicked out of other gyms!

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    I wish my wife had felt that way...lmao
    Wouldn't be a prob if she was dead, just sayin


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    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Try Oly shoes and bringing up your adductors den
    Interesting! Thanks for all the posting Ral ... I can see how grinding with pushing the prowlers
    I don't do pushes very often but I was aware that I was externally rotating the hip like this and like collapsing the knee in


    I actually did sumos today to work the adductors. Was the first time I've ever done them and I sort of got the hang of them ... nothing heavy though but they felt comfortable. I've got my oly shoes that I haven't worn for a couple of years: I'm planning to do some squats tomorrow so I'll try wearing my shoes and concentrate on the knee position.



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    Any plans once it's all done and over?
    Once it's finalised I'm left with a 7 figure debt so I'll have to work hard to pay it down .... just grateful that interest rates are low!
    I got asked to join some people in a villa in Tuscany in August but I'm still a bit shell shocked ... think they want to match make and just couldn't cope. Instead I've got HK and Chicago to look forward to this year and US again next

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    Like crap, but did score a neat 80 doe - bet you can't say dat, that you've hit a boundary at the Adelaide Oval =^___^=
    Nope. Never fcuked Leonardo in a Donatello suit either

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    It's why i Oly with these bad boys
    Ooo, those are so cool! You'd need a rubber floor to dump them wouldn't you?
    So is your gym a CF box as well (just Rogue is still very much CF)

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    ^ in this

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    Ha ... do it as a MNT

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    It's cos you know if anything were to happen, daughters prob wouldn't find you till two weeks later with half your face mauled off cos they forgot to feed the dog too - you know it's true
    laughed so much at this ...... it's too true!

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    S/N: I thought these would rock after seeing this, but they totally suck :/
    So did you buy them yourself or did your gym get some? They look good but what's wrong with DBs?

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    It's been too long mate, let's get kicked out of other gyms!
    Fukvirginactive .... I'm up for that

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    Nice work cleaning and front squatting more than I can deadlift
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    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Interesting! Thanks for all the posting Ral ... I can see how grinding with pushing the prowlers
    I don't do pushes very often but I was aware that I was externally rotating the hip like this and like collapsing the knee in
    [img]https://bretcontreras.com/wp-content/uploads/Prowler-push-2.png[img]

    I actually did sumos today to work the adductors. Was the first time I've ever done them and I sort of got the hang of them ... nothing heavy though but they felt comfortable. I've got my oly shoes that I haven't worn for a couple of years: I'm planning to do some squats tomorrow so I'll try wearing my shoes and concentrate on the knee position.
    New kettlebells and deadball should help with dat hehe, sumo-ey in nature

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    Once it's finalised I'm left with a 7 figure debt so I'll have to work hard to pay it down .... just grateful that interest rates are low!
    I got asked to join some people in a villa in Tuscany in August but I'm still a bit shell shocked ... think they want to match make and just couldn't cope. Instead I've got HK and Chicago to look forward to this year and US again next
    Happy belated freedom! Shellshocked that you're not ready to date, or that your frandz are swingers?

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    Nope. Never fcuked Leonardo in a Donatello suit either
    Once banged a chick dressed as Ariel for Halloween, when she went to take off her shell bra it was like no... leave it on hehe. Best. Halloween. Evar!

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Ooo, those are so cool! You'd need a rubber floor to dump them wouldn't you?
    So is your gym a CF box as well (just Rogue is still very much CF)
    MMA gym and nah we usually just row with them, perfect back saving height

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    Ha ... do it as a MNT
    For another Halloween, dated this fobby asian chick who didn't get the memo Halloween is meant for slutting it up so she came dressed as Mozart, her fav musician. Still banged and it was awesome, in a i shouldn't be doing this kinda way (no homo, keep the wig and clogs on baby)

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    laughed so much at this ...... it's too true!
    And since you're you, you'll prob crawl to your phone only to find it dead cos you forgot to charge =^___^=

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    So did you buy them yourself or did your gym get some? They look good but what's wrong with DBs?
    Just wanted something more "punchey", donated to gym

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    Fukvirginactive .... I'm up for that
    God that guy was such a passive aggressive ******* lul

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Nice work cleaning and front squatting more than I can deadlift
    Tomorrow is the first day of the CrossFit regional = snatch ladder and then 10 rounds of 4 m-ups/7HSPUs/12x32kg KB snatches
    I'll be watching it tomorrow
    I still believe!

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    What, no lifting for a week and a half?
    Nah i just suck at keeping a journal hehe


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    3. MMA - kicked Aaron's butt, had me in side control but knew he had a grizzled psoas, no one ever mobilises their psoas, so jabbed him, he jolted up then kimuraed and Rally: 1, Aaron: 269

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    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) Snatch - 115 x 1, 110 x 8 EMOM
    3) SG Deads - 180 x 20 x 3

    Wed 18/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) FRWL - 130 x 10 steps x 3
    3) OHSU - 90 x 30 steps x 3

    * Front rack walking lunges
    ** Overhead stepups

    Fri 20/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) C&SJ - 140 x 1, 130 x 8 EMOM
    3) C&P - 115 x 1, 120 x F, 116 x 2

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    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) Snatch - 115 x 1, 112.5 x 8 EMOM
    3) SG RDLs - 182.5 x 20 x 3

    Wed 25/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) FRWL - 132.5 x 10 steps x 3
    3) OHSU - 92.5 x 30 steps x 3

    Fri 27/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) C&SJ - 140 x 1, 132.5 x 8 EMOM
    3) SSB - 182.5 x 8 x 3 - too heavy

    * Oly shoes on SSB really exposed me, kept wanting to dump forward so core not as strong as i thought it was

    ** Gonna start learning how to ironcross - have regressed it to cable crossovers and side raises to mimic positions under constant tension + tis summer, suns out guns out hehe =^___^=
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    3) OHSU - 95 x 30 steps x 3

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    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    New kettlebells and deadball should help with dat hehe, sumo-ey in nature
    And I like the deadballs and KBs but I rang the guy at Ironedge and he said they wouldn't be able to ship the deadball or the 40kg KBs
    They did drop the price of the Elite plates though so I ordered more, plus a weightlifting platform and a few wall balls, so all adding up
    Still want that deadball and another bar

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Happy belated freedom! Shellshocked that you're not ready to date, or that your frandz are swingers?
    You wouldn't believe how fcuked up my head has been .. so shellshocked that it hasn't even crossed my mind to date. Mentally moving on now but I'm turning 55 in two weeks so the pickings are slim

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Once banged a chick dressed as Ariel for Halloween, when she went to take off her shell bra it was like no... leave it on hehe. Best. Halloween. Ever!
    I miss your posts Rally
    My daughters would be horrified ... Ariel is the younger one's heroine .... the older one idolises Belle .... don't tell me what you did with her

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    MMA gym and nah we usually just row with them, perfect back saving height
    Hadn't thought of that ... I'm always trying to set up the crossbars in the rack for rows but they are too high

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    For another Halloween, dated this fobby asian chick who didn't get the memo Halloween is meant for slutting it up so she came dressed as Mozart, her fav musician. Still banged and it was awesome, in a i shouldn't be doing this kinda way (no homo, keep the wig and clogs on baby)
    Could go wrong on so many levels with Don Juan role play



    .... artsy 1%er opera-goer reference

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    And since you're you, you'll prob crawl to your phone only to find it dead cos you forgot to charge =^___^=
    .... so close to the bone! iPhone has had a spider-web screen for 4 weeks since it fell over while I was videoing a squat set

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    God that guy was such a passive aggressive ******* lul
    We don't have people like that in Adelaide ... more like your Deliverance bogan serial killer here
    And it's a while since I've been to Sydney and I'm due to visit HK

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    I still believe!
    I've bought the plates so I must be due for a DL PR

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    MUAHAHA Friday the 13th

    1. LISS - 10 mins
    2. C&J - 162 x F, 165 x F, 170 x F
    3. MMA - kicked Aaron's butt, had me in side control but knew he had a grizzled psoas, no one ever mobilises their psoas, so jabbed him, he jolted up then kimuraed and Rally: 1, Aaron: 269
    OK ... now the serious stuff ... so whydafuk you doing MMA? Just finished rehabbing your shoulder and you going to get it dislocated in a choke hold.
    Plus the Mohawk will get messed

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Monday 16/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) Snatch - 115 x 1, 110 x 8 EMOM
    3) SG Deads - 180 x 20 x 3

    Wed 18/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) FRWL - 130 x 10 steps x 3
    3) OHSU - 90 x 30 steps x 3

    * Front rack walking lunges
    ** Overhead stepups

    Fri 20/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) C&SJ - 140 x 1, 130 x 8 EMOM
    3) C&P - 115 x 1, 120 x F, 116 x 2

    * Just wanted to see where my OHP was, finished my three year shoulder rehab program this week
    OK .. how can you do SGDL 180 for 20 reps?

    .... just one

    Thought wotdafuk is FRWL and OHSU and then saw the explanation. Just wow at both of those ... some awesome strength and stability to do that. I suspect most people youldn't have a clue because they never do that type of training

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Mon 23/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) Snatch - 115 x 1, 112.5 x 8 EMOM
    3) SG RDLs - 182.5 x 20 x 3

    Wed 25/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) FRWL - 132.5 x 10 steps x 3
    3) OHSU - 92.5 x 30 steps x 3

    Fri 27/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) C&SJ - 140 x 1, 132.5 x 8 EMOM
    3) SSB - 182.5 x 8 x 3 - too heavy

    * Oly shoes on SSB really exposed me, kept wanting to dump forward so core not as strong as i thought it was

    ** Gonna start learning how to ironcross - have regressed it to cable crossovers and side raises to mimic positions under constant tension + tis summer, suns out guns out hehe =^___^=
    C&SJ awesome
    SSB + squat safety bar? 182.5 x 8 x 3 - too heavy ....no fcuking kidding!

    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Tue 31/5

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) Snatch - 120 x 1, 115 x 8 EMOM
    3) SG Deads - 185 x 20 x 3

    Misc: Trying this new thing where i actually try to be nice people and it's so much work pretending i care
    Originally Posted by rallyum View Post
    Wed 1/6

    1) LISS - 15 mins
    2) FRWL - 135 x 10 steps x 3
    3) OHSU - 95 x 30 steps x 3

    Misc: Pinch and a punch for the first day of the month! Also, last time i checked hypertrophy skience for natties was: 70-80%, for 6-12 reps, 4-8 sets, 40-70 total reps, twice a week - has things changed since then?
    Congrats on 3 years rehabbing shoulder ..... can't believe that it's 3 years ago!
    Progression has been amazing. Can't conceive of a front rack lunge with 300lbs
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    Bout time! Got to go out and get pissed with my financial planner and then I'm going to read this
    Drowning financial sorrows or genius drunken financial scheming?

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    And I like the deadballs and KBs but I rang the guy at Ironedge and he said they wouldn't be able to ship the deadball or the 40kg KBs
    They did drop the price of the Elite plates though so I ordered more, plus a weightlifting platform and a few wall balls, so all adding up
    Still want that deadball and another bar
    Hoarder

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    You wouldn't believe how fcuked up my head has been .. so shellshocked that it hasn't even crossed my mind to date. Mentally moving on now but I'm turning 55 in two weeks so the pickings are slim
    Groce, why would you wanna date bitter old menopausal women when you can be dating hot pretty little young things with glow?

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    I miss your posts Rally
    My daughters would be horrified ... Ariel is the younger one's heroine .... the older one idolises Belle .... don't tell me what you did with her
    Also had a Misty juggle my pokeballz in her mouth once =^____^=

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Hadn't thought of that ... I'm always trying to set up the crossbars in the rack for rows but they are too high
    Try rowing in Oly shoes

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Could go wrong on so many levels with Don Juan role play

    .... artsy 1%er opera-goer reference
    Or it could be beautiful like Shang and Mulan, innocent 99%er Disney reference

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    .... so close to the bone! iPhone has had a spider-web screen for 4 weeks since it fell over while I was videoing a squat set
    Need to get it fixed for tinder and grindr now that you're on the market!

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    We don't have people like that in Adelaide ... more like your Deliverance bogan serial killer here
    And it's a while since I've been to Sydney and I'm due to visit HK
    When are your dates?

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    I've bought the plates so I must be due for a DL PR
    300 bajillion kg it is cos hoarder!

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    OK ... now the serious stuff ... so whydafuk you doing MMA? Just finished rehabbing your shoulder and you going to get it dislocated in a choke hold.
    Plus the Mohawk will get messed
    Cos Olympic lifting is so much safer ^___^V

    Tis my one true love actually, i lift to MMA, soccer, basketball etc

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    OK .. how can you do SGDL 180 for 20 reps?

    .... just one

    Thought wotdafuk is FRWL and OHSU and then saw the explanation. Just wow at both of those ... some awesome strength and stability to do that. I suspect most people youldn't have a clue because they never do that type of training
    I think when you're 17 years in training like me, that's when all the goofy bosu ball chit becomes important cos you've pretty much capped errthing else

    Deads weren't too hard tbh, since i run, EMOM, MMA etc i've got the conditioning down pat, and weight wise tis really only 66% + something i've prob hit over 10,000 times in my lifting career so guaranteed no matter what

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    C&SJ awesome
    SSB + squat safety bar? 182.5 x 8 x 3 - too heavy ....no fcuking kidding!
    Yup, safety squat - just wasn't use to that constant tension since the weight hangs below the bar, sorta like kb vs db rows

    Originally Posted by fittofattofit View Post
    Congrats on 3 years rehabbing shoulder ..... can't believe that it's 3 years ago!
    Progression has been amazing. Can't conceive of a front rack lunge with 300lbs
    Tanx, and hoping it'll improve my jerk by teaching my front rack stabilisers to check movement - i.e. stay stable when trying to pop the bar up cos it's nothing compared to lungeing


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