Age: 28
Weight: 188 lbs
Height: 5'10
Leap: 28
Max deadlift: 405 lbs
Body fat %: 16
Workout: 6 days/week
Basketball experience: some high school.
I know they're not the best stats, but surely they should allow me to at least hang on the rim with both hands! Or not? What am I missing???
Thanks in advance!
Josh
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02-12-2016, 01:07 PM #1
Help me jump higher to dunk, please! :)
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02-12-2016, 02:29 PM #2
Hey man my goal is to dunk too.
What is your workout routine like? Especially for increasing your vertical...
Mine right now is...
Day 1- some plyos training then after I do squats, dead lifts or leg press, calf raises, and lunges...then some very light jogging and good stretching
Day 2- chest/shoulders/triceps and some light jogging and jump rope on sore legs to loosen them up. Maybe some light core as well
Day 3- Core/Back/Biceps and then maybe some shooting around.
Day 4- A good jog session/some punching bag/and some light body weight exercise for my upper body and core...I'll usually spend a decent amount of time playing basketball this day too since my legs are getting close to normal again on this day.
Day 5- Repeat day 1
What are your thoughts? Definitely interested to hear what you do as a routine.
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02-13-2016, 11:28 AM #3
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02-13-2016, 06:57 PM #4
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02-14-2016, 07:47 AM #5
(Deep) squat more
Deadlift/RDL more
More plyo's(single leg, double leg)
Olympic lift IF YOU KNOW HOW
More direct hamstring/glute work(glute ham raises, reverse hypers, unstable leg curls)
More single leg work
You should be training your legs at least 2-3 times per week.. If your goal is to simply dunk then upper body training is a waste of time and energy.
I would personally follow a pull/push split that looks something like...
Day 1-Light Plyo's, Deadlift, Glute Ham Raises, Glute Bridge, rows/chins
Day 2-SQUAT, Lunges, presses, core
Day 3-Off
Day 4-Heavier Plyo's, RDL, Reverse Hypers, Leg Curls, rows/chins
Day 5-SQUAT, Bulgarian Split Squats, Single Leg RDL's, presses, core
Day 5/6-off
Don't jog. If you're going to run, SPRINT. 10-20 yards max.Last edited by jalundah; 02-14-2016 at 07:54 AM.
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02-14-2016, 10:34 AM #6
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02-14-2016, 11:22 AM #7
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02-14-2016, 11:26 AM #8
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02-14-2016, 03:26 PM #9
Because it's a pull/push split. Post chain one day, front side of the body the next. Having a "leg" day once or twice a week is not the optimal way to train for athletics.
And jogging is a slow, aerobic activity. Jumping(and sprinting) is explosive and anaerobic. Jogging doesn't carry over to jumping and can actually make you slower(thus contradicting athletic gains) relative to sprinting.
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02-16-2016, 08:20 AM #10
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Thanks for the reply, Friars1234! I'll def give a try to your routine.
I once did the Jump Manual and it didn't allow me to dunk, but I was indeed able to grab the rim with one hand for the first time on a 2 leg jump. I didn't follow the program 100% the way it told me to (I didn't do the exhaustion exercises; I only focused on using heavy weights), but it did help! I guess I should do it right the way it tells me to and see if that works.
What I'm doing right now is this, which is somewhat based on the Jump Manual:
Day 1: Leg weights (squat rack, dead-lifts, lunges, and power cleans).
Day 2: Upper body (chest & triceps) & abs.
Day 3: REST & STRETCH (as the program insists, you need to stretch and rest).
Day 4: Leg plyometrics, using an 80 lbs weighted vest. This is the 1st time I'm trying this and I'm expecting to see results from this; I'm finding this extremely hard and exhausting, hence I assume what gives you a hard time is the thing you'll see the greater benefits from. I'm gasping for air after each set. The manual never talks about a weighted vest. Then, I finish up with 5-10 mins. of jumping rope.
Day 5: Upper body (arms & back) & abs.
Day 6: REST & STRETCH.
Day 7: Either an extra day off, or start from Day 1. Personally, I just listen to my body, since my joints hurt sometimes cuz I'm pushing my body waaay to much. Better train smart than just hard.
Hope this helps! I'll tell you in a month or two how your workout routine works on me. And thanks!
Josh
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02-16-2016, 10:07 AM #11
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02-16-2016, 01:48 PM #12
I was just out practicing some jumps and I got some advice for you. When you're going into your run up, it's key that you start pretty fast and finish even faster. Huge difference from when I go medium speed and finish fast than when I start fast and finish even faster
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02-16-2016, 04:09 PM #13
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02-16-2016, 05:11 PM #14
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02-16-2016, 06:42 PM #15
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02-16-2016, 06:45 PM #16
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02-16-2016, 09:12 PM #17
I don't know why so many people say jogging makes you slower. Kiwi, was just wondering how you organize in-season lifting? Upper/Lower, full-body? It's always interesting seeing the differing approaches you guys use (the coaches on this forum).
And OP, I'm almost certain that doing "plyometrics" with a 80lb vest until you're exhausted is a recipe for injury.
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02-19-2016, 12:33 AM #18
Weight lifting certainly is going to help you, but the truth is what will actually help you jump higher is to….jump more.
You need box jump exercises, plyos to stimulate your fast-twitch fibers and the only thing you didn't mention you do is to actually play basketball. There is so much jumping involved in the game that most competitive players get to a point where their vertical is anywhere between 18-26 inches by the end of their careers which is right around where you need to be to dunk if you're a taller player (6'3 and above). As you get older the odds get a little stacked against you with this, but it is certainly possible to increase your vert and dunk if you include more actual jumping in your program. In addition to your lifting workouts I would try incorporating box jumps, toe taps, side jumps, lunge jumps and sprinting into your workouts probably twice a week with one day being very light and listen to your body and take time off when the fatigue is too much for your legs.
There are a lot of guys who scam workout plans for jumping but Alan Stein is a good guy to look at for basketball training in general. Good luck!
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02-19-2016, 07:37 AM #19
I guess you're right; I shouldn't be exhausted. My expectation was that as I get stronger, I'd get less tired. I don't intent on increasing the # of sets or reps; I'm just focusing on getting better at each set.
Like the Jump Manual says, I'm doing the 8 reps per set for each exercise.
Thank you all for your replies!
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02-19-2016, 12:13 PM #20
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02-19-2016, 12:15 PM #21
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02-19-2016, 12:26 PM #23
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02-20-2016, 04:54 AM #24
I'm not saying jogging will MAKE YOU SLOWER... I'm saying sprinting will make you faster, which will in turn make you jump higher. Jogging won't do anything but train your slow twitch muscle fibers, which is going to do nothing for your jumping ability.
If you're jogging miles at a time, THIS WILL AFFECT YOUR TRAINING NEGATIVELY. It's good for general heart health, not good for becoming an explosive athlete. How many cross country runners have you ever come across that could possibly dunk a basketball? My guess would be close to 0. How many sprinters have you ever come across that could possibly dunk a basketball? Probably 100% that are over 5'10".
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09-25-2018, 03:44 PM #25
In order to jump higher you need to train with max explosion. Technique is also important if you want to do thing like dunking. To get better at dunking dunk more often on smaller hoops. It takes time but over a couple of months on a well periodized plyometric and resistance training program you should be able to add 5-10 inches on your jump height. My favorite site for jump training info is Vertical Jump World.com. They have some nice free jump training programs and tips. Hope it helps!
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09-25-2018, 06:06 PM #26
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10-23-2018, 06:46 AM #28
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