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    Personality > Looks

    I've been seeing all these threads about looks are more important than personality. This is not the case. You can be ugly as fukk and still have a hot girl if other areas of your life are going well. The reason some of you believe looks are more important is because you are lacking in other areas of your life so you use the "i dont look like brad pitt so i cant find a girl" excuse. This is not the case, yes good looks and a good personality are obviously going to get their picks most of the time. But if you're in a room where its *insert sexually attractive male* and *insert amazing personality male* at first the girls will go to the atttractive guy. After they realize how fukking boring he is the guy with the great personality will have already swept at least one girl off of her feet.

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    wish i could move to your alternate dimension

    girls are status hungry fukks in my dimension

    in my world personality = looks... if you look good people automatically think
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    Bro, the only way an ugly as hell guy could get a hot girl for a long term relationship is if he was making 100 k or more annually. And that's provided that she is ready to settle down with a nice beta provider whom she will deny sex the majority of the time, and have a subtle resentment for as he's essentially allowing himself to be used.

    Again this is one of those situations where I picture the hot girl at a party, looking for a serious relationship. All of a sudden this ugly-ass dude comes up and starts macking on her, being all charming and stuff. He might get her laughing and excited, but a serious relationship? Forget it.

    Most hot girls use their hot boyfriends in part, as a damn trophy. The thought of a super hot chick flaunting an ugly faced chubby dude on her Instagram for 2000 people to see just boggles my mind, really.
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    I think to get many girls you definitely need looks more importantly.

    But to get one girl who is absolute stunner I think a personality is enough.

    Too many times we focus on getting every girl in the world whereas we should be going for a few solid girls, thats why we begin to think we need looks just because 90% of women find us repulsive. But hey aslong as you can get one good girl I think you're good.
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    Show me an ugly brah making $30k a year who's dating a 9/10

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    Thing is, hot girls have options. Not all hot guys are boring as hell. If a guy ends up being boring, she can move onto the next hot guy who has a decent personality.
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    Originally Posted by BorrachoDamor View Post
    Show me an ugly brah making $30k a year who's dating a 9/10

    Inb4 "I know a guy"
    I know a guy
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    Hahahahaha. What a phuckin delusional thread.
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    At the end of the day girls want a well rounded guy
    Guy with aesthetics/good looks but terrible personality= nah
    Guy with no aesthetics but good personality= better but still may have trouble in initial attraction

    If you are decent looking, can actually carry a conversation, and arn't awkward youll be fine with the large majority of women

    I've seen some ugly guys with 8+/10 women so there's hope
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    It's really not that different between the sexes in this regard. We all have our threshold.

    There's an attractiveness lower limit for sexual appeal and there's a personality lower limit to enjoy being around the person.
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    For the most part, the only way OP's thoughts could come true is if the girl is introduced to the guy through friends/fam. Otherwise, its all about looks brahs, fuk what you heard.

    I have a buddy who is 9/10, 6'5", decent build, chit job/car and lives at home who has women approach him repeatedly every single time we go out, wherever we go. Women stop, point and giggle in his presence. I must also add that he has absolutely no game and is an extreme beta but every single time he gets their number because he is good looking and then they ditch him after 2 weeks when they realize he is so boring and beta. Last time we went out, a group of 4 of wanted to take him home lol. I consider myself a 7 (with potential for 8-9 when finished shredding) and I don't have women approaching me often, but the ones who give me indicators of interest, I approach and I bag nearly all and more often than not they want to relationship me ASAP.

    IMO, this proves the theory that looks can only attract, but personality will keep you with them.
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    Originally Posted by Nedo View Post
    For the most part, the only way OP's thoughts could come true is if the girl is introduced to the guy through friends/fam. Otherwise, its all about looks brahs, fuk what you heard.

    I have a buddy who is 9/10, 6'5", decent build, chit job/car and lives at home who has women approach him repeatedly every single time we go out, wherever we go. Women stop, point and giggle in his presence. I must also add that he has absolutely no game and is an extreme beta but every single time he gets their number because he is good looking and then they ditch him after 2 weeks when they realize he is so boring and beta. Last time we went out, a group of 4 of wanted to take him home lol. I consider myself a 7 (with potential for 8-9 when finished shredding) and I don't have women approaching me often, but the ones who give me indicators of interest, I approach and I bag nearly all and more often than not they want to relationship me ASAP.

    IMO, this proves the theory that looks can only attract, but personality will keep you with them.
    Is your buddy getting laid from the attention? Hard to make the case for personality by him being constantly approached and used for sex. That's exactly how hot women with **** personalities are thought of by men.
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    Originally Posted by Simple00 View Post
    Thing is, hot girls have options. Not all hot guys are boring as hell. If a guy ends up being boring, she can move onto the next hot guy who has a decent personality.
    Agreed.
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    thanks for this great information op. srs. cant wait to pull in fit 10/10 women now.
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    A great personality only works if you're at least average.

    If you're genuinely ugly, it's an up hill battle.
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    I know a guy that looks like Pete Sampras with Downs syndrome and his wife is not bad looking she a 6/7 .
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    Looks do matter to a certain extent, personality matters more if it's a long term relationship but if its a short-term relationship like a fling looks matter more. Also if you are deformed ugly 2/10 male even if you have "personality" getting women will be harder or might be impossible. Attractive women will still choose average men 5/10 guy can still get a 9/10 but the lower your attractiveness the harder you will attract women.
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    Originally Posted by justins1983 View Post
    Is your buddy getting laid from the attention? Hard to make the case for personality by him being constantly approached and used for sex. That's exactly how hot women with **** personalities are thought of by men.
    He is cringe beta, blowing up their phone same night and yeah he does smash majority of them still. I can hear it though as his wing man, says hardly anything, compliments, talks about boring chit. Sometimes when we scoop something up same night and bring them home, doesn't say a WORD in the car. Ughhhh.....cringeworthy! Worst part is, he is actually a talkative dude among the guys and started chatting me up at gym, which is how we became buddies, go figure.

    His style is post up and wait. Fukin unreal, and they always come. Kind of like a float fisherman lol.
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    Sweet, this means that myself and all the other UGLY FAs can just join a personality improvement program and in 6-12 months of become ultra charismatic, we will all have 8+10 gfs.


    you serious OP. you probably get scammed by those PUAs
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    Originally Posted by psychosylocibin View Post
    Sweet, this means that myself and all the other UGLY FAs can just join a personality improvement program and in 6-12 months of become ultra charismatic, we will all have 8+10 gfs.


    you serious OP. you probably get scammed by those PUAs
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    Originally Posted by Nedo View Post
    He is cringe beta, blowing up their phone same night and yeah he does smash majority of them still. I can hear it though as his wing man, says hardly anything, compliments, talks about boring chit. Sometimes when we scoop something up same night and bring them home, doesn't say a WORD in the car. Ughhhh.....cringeworthy! Worst part is, he is actually a talkative dude among the guys and started chatting me up at gym, which is how we became buddies, go figure.

    His style is post up and wait. Fukin unreal, and they always come. Kind of like a float fisherman lol.
    So he gets laid with good looks and a **** personality. How is that evidence that personality > looks? How is that any different than a hot vapid **** who gets constantly sexual advances but no one wants to stick around long? If anything your anecdote is evidence that looks > personality since he gets laid by hot women with less effort and skill than you.
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    Originally Posted by Nedo View Post
    For the most part, the only way OP's thoughts could come true is if the girl is introduced to the guy through friends/fam. Otherwise, its all about looks brahs, fuk what you heard.

    I have a buddy who is 9/10, 6'5", decent build, chit job/car and lives at home who has women approach him repeatedly every single time we go out, wherever we go. Women stop, point and giggle in his presence. I must also add that he has absolutely no game and is an extreme beta but every single time he gets their number because he is good looking and then they ditch him after 2 weeks when they realize he is so boring and beta. Last time we went out, a group of 4 of wanted to take him home lol. I consider myself a 7 (with potential for 8-9 when finished shredding) and I don't have women approaching me often, but the ones who give me indicators of interest, I approach and I bag nearly all and more often than not they want to relationship me ASAP.

    IMO, this proves the theory that looks can only attract, but personality will keep you with them.
    This is pretty spot on. Very good looks will get you a lot of initial interest but that's about it.

    Originally Posted by InfinityThor View Post
    A great personality only works if you're at least average.

    If you're genuinely ugly, it's an up hill battle.
    I agree with this too. The only way personality supersedes looks is if you're average looking. Meaning, you're not hideously ugly, you're not obese/badly overweight, etc. But if you're very overweight/obese and/or you're very ugly its not going to happen. Then again Adam Driver is pretty hideous looking and women find him attractive b/c of his personality so who knows.

    But to all you FAs out there take solace, the vast majority of the population is average looking. On the opposite ends of the spectrum you have the very ugly looking and the very good looking. And if you're on this site all the time you're either in good shape or desire to be in good shape. So most likely you're judging yourself too harshly.

    If you're good looking and you have a great (meaning dominant) personality then women will be falling in love with you all the time to a point where it can make your life crazy.

    Plus it gets a lot easier when you get older as women tend to have less and less options as they age. Although I'm getting close to 40 and I still get hit on by 20 yr olds. Part of that is b/c I look 30 and not like the average late 30s guy, but part of it is b/c attractive is attractive regardless of age.
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    Id say when you are at either end of the looks spectrum personality becomes irrelevant for smashing hot girls. Personality would be useless for the hideous guy and the really handsome guy would just need to know how to formulate coherent sentances. However for the vast majority of men (who are slightly below - slightly above average looking) personality is what will determine whether or not they will be able to smash the hbb. Hot girls will have multiple suitors at any given time therefore even if Chad gets to smash, it doesnt mean you cant. You just have to put in more work. Ove seen short average looking guys with good style and good game out pull decent looking guys who were boring.

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    So he gets laid with good looks and a **** personality. How is that evidence that personality > looks? How is that any different than a hot vapid **** who gets constantly sexual advances but no one wants to stick around long? If anything your anecdote is evidence that looks > personality since he gets laid by hot women with less effort and skill than you.
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    Personality theory is even worse than looks theory, because we are brought up to believe a good personality is to have a warm soul, be endearing, be genuine and 'nice' for want of a better word, but these cucks don't mean that, when they talk about personality being sufficent it is with the premise that the person is some sort of walking enigma that excudes confidence and an aura everywhere he goes ala someone like conor mcgregor. Least with looks you can improve them somewhat, I will never be some larger than life character and why should I have to be? I (used to be) nice, pleasent, well spoken and mannerly. That to me reflects a good personality, not some ****ing ignorarus 'larger than life' coping playboy like dan bilzerian.
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    Originally Posted by CodyZellery View Post
    You have nice body brah. What's your problem? Face or manletism?
    Honestly? no phukking clue.
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    Originally Posted by AlamedaBoy View Post
    Personality theory is even worse than looks theory, because we are brought up to believe a good personality is to have a warm soul, be endearing, be genuine and 'nice' for want of a better word, but these cucks don't mean that, when they talk about personality being sufficent it is with the premise that the person is some sort of walking enigma that excudes confidence and an aura everywhere he goes ala someone like conor mcgregor. Least with looks you can improve them somewhat, I will never be some larger than life character and why should I have to be? I (used to be) nice, pleasent, well spoken and mannerly.
    Its not that you have to be larger than life. If you have a high degree of confidence and dominance women will perceive you to be larger than life. In fact the "tough guys" are pretty transparent to women. If you're carrying yourself like one of these guys you will get attention from women but they will also sh*t test you a lot b/c they'll think its all an act and will test you to see whether its legit; and these tests will be continuous and fierce. But if you have a natural air of confidence and dominance you'll give off a totally different vibe. No woman will want to mess with you like that b/c she'll be afraid to lose you especially when she sees how attracted other women are to you.

    But you make a good observation. There's a miscommunication/misunderstanding going on over the word personality. When women say this they mean a strong dominant personality but when guys hear this they think it means having a lot going on in your life, being very personable, warm soul, etc.
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    Bro, the only way an ugly as hell guy could get a hot girl for a long term relationship is if he was making 100 k or more annually. And that's provided that she is ready to settle down with a nice beta provider whom she will deny sex the majority of the time, and have a subtle resentment for as he's essentially allowing himself to be used.

    Again this is one of those situations where I picture the hot girl at a party, looking for a serious relationship. All of a sudden this ugly-ass dude comes up and starts macking on her, being all charming and stuff. He might get her laughing and excited, but a serious relationship? Forget it.

    Most hot girls use their hot boyfriends in part, as a damn trophy. The thought of a super hot chick flaunting an ugly faced chubby dude on her Instagram for 2000 people to see just boggles my mind, really.
    Not true. I smashed this poor, ugly with performance issues guy's GF in the smash utility vehicle that he helped pay for. The moral of the story is that poor, ugly guys can get dimes, but the dimes will cheat.
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    Lol good looks don't mean chit if you are socially retarded. Yes, it might seem out of place that someone who has a 10/10 appearance is practically a failure in everything else, because it's not expected of them. So in reality, it's actually even weirder if you look good yet are beta in everything you do, because with the genuinely ugly guys, at least they have an excuse that is out of their control. You have model-looking people who get absolutely zero social respect whatsoever, and it is for this exact reason.

    Don't believe the hype. If you are physically a 10/10 and you can't even get laid, then that is a dead giveaway that there is something seriously wrong with you. It is true that those on the higher end of the aesthetic spectrum usually require significantly less social effort to be successful with women, but you still need to know the basics of socializing. If you can't even start a conversation without being considered "weird" after the first sentence, then you can look like Brad Pitt or Zac Efron but nobody would care. Girls don't phucking care, they'll just see you as a waste of physical beauty, because it could've been on someone who actually knew how to act and behave normally. That's why most people laugh at hot people who can't get laid - it's all a result of their own behavior, and it's not being blamed on something they can't control. It might be "unfair", but that is socially acceptable, and hence how your status is determined.

    Most importantly, you shouldn't give a phuck about your "status" in your younger years. You want to worry about status? Finish university, get an advanced degree, start hunting for employment, and land a job that makes over 100,000 annually. You will see how confident you become and how your self-esteem goes up. Maintaining a clean and kept appearance will not necessarily make you "good" looking, but you will look respectable and like you care about yourself. Plenty of wealthy guys have average looks yet the demeanor and tone that they set to others around them is really what turns women on. That, of course, comes with the paycheck.

    What people think of you doesn't phucking matter. What matters is what you think of yourself. You start becoming successful when other's opinions of you have no relevance whatsoever. Human beings thrive on inequality. We must always be superior to someone in order to feel better about ourselves. Phucking multiple girls a day only makes you feel powerful because you're comparing yourself to guys who never get laid. If 100% of guys could accomplish the same thing you could, it wouldn't be considered "successful" at all. It's all relative.

    Also, stop being such a goddamn pussy. Men are supposed to be the superior gender, yet most of them nowadays are afraid of even talking to women. Stop viewing girls as some magical object to be obtained, rather you have to become the one who is supposed to be obtained. Women have sexual power only because men let them have that power. That is why 90% of men cannot get laid substantially enough to be satisfied, while the other 10% are doing it nonstop with various partners.

    This is strictly a phenomenon of Western society. In third world countries it doesn't work that way. You rape whichever girl you can, and she will have to raise the baby herself. There is no time for complaining about how "socially unacceptable" it is, because in those countries, it's called phucking survival.

    Animals phuck and fight. If the only accomplishment someone has is getting laid on demand and having the ability to beat someone up, they are not a human, they are an animal. Humans have passionate interests and ambitions to make a reality for themselves, and a dream to follow. Animals simply exist to reproduce and defeat any challenging mates. That's why women fall for "bad boys" because they haven't matured in that part of their brains yet.

    It is also why younger people tend to place emphasis on sex and combat. These are animalistic accomplishments, and there is nothing impressive about them. I could go out and rape a girl, and in a biological sense I would have fulfilled my sexual purpose. It's sad but it's true. Stop being an immature prick, 99% of the world could not give a flying phuck about how many girls you can get into bed. There is always someone stronger and more powerful than you who could rape those same girls with half of the effort. Quit valuing animal accomplishments and start valuing human accomplishments, because you are more than just a machine to create babies.
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