Bodybuilding and Boxing ... how to mix it?

[zloy]

I want to build some more lean muscle. But could not figure out what split would be best and how should I go about growing muscles and continuing boxing training.


I am doing boxing 5 days a week.(2 day and 3 days in the evening)
Its ussually like 20 min of running/joggin and the rest is technique and working on the hits/movement
a total of 1.5 hours

What split would be optimal considering the muscles that work in boxing...

also should i also take shakes before and after boxing?

[zloy]

bump

there gotta be some people in the know..

[IronManXXX]

it's a bad idea.

they don't mix.

are you trying to put yourself into a higher weight class ?

[zloy]

it's a bad idea.

they don't mix.

are you trying to put yourself into a higher weight class ?

No, I am trying to have good looking muscles and be a good boxer.

[silv3rbull3t]

If your a competitive boxer your not going to be doing bodybuilding type workouts. You have to maintain a certain weight to stay in a weight class, you can't eat like you need to in body building.......... He's right, they don't mix.

[Gator Muscle]

Of course, you'd want to put special emphasis on shoulder, tricep, and chest exercises. Focus on doing moderate weight at higher repetition ranges. This will condition your red twitch fibers which are for endurance. You want your shoulders conditioned to help you keep your guard up and to deliver blows.

Chest exercises that include bringing your elbows in front of your chest like the pec dec, dumbell flies, and so on will help you with hooks. You'd want to focus on explosive tricep movements for straight jabs.

These are the exercsies I did when training Muay Thai a few years ago.

Don't neglect leg exercises for stability and balance. Drink your shake at least 1 hour before training that way you don't throw it up in the gym!

[zloy]

If your a competitive boxer your not going to be doing bodybuilding type workouts. You have to maintain a certain weight to stay in a weight class, you can't eat like you need to in body building.......... He's right, they don't mix.

psstt dont worry about weight class...

[zloy]

Of course, you'd want to put special emphasis on shoulder, tricep, and chest exercises. Focus on doing moderate weight at higher repetition ranges. This will condition your red twitch fibers which are for endurance. You want your shoulders conditioned to help you keep your guard up and to deliver blows.

Chest exercises that include bringing your elbows in front of your chest like the pec dec, dumbell flies, and so on will help you with hooks. You'd want to focus on explosive tricep movements for straight jabs.

These are the exercsies I did when training Muay Thai a few years ago.

Don't neglect leg exercises for stability and balance. Drink your shake at least 1 hour before training that way you don't throw it up in the gym!

sound like some good advice thanks

[for gains]

Well... being a boxer, you'll tend to burn fat, and look defined and pretty anyways. So just do the basics... do what you need to do- you'll be pretty defined and ripped, so, you PROBABLY won't have to worry about your looks if you become a boxer.

[zloy]

you PROBABLY won't have to worry about your looks if you become a boxer.

why is that?

Why do people assume you cant be a bodybuilder and a boxer?
I am not doing any of these professionaly only for myself...

[djartek]

also should i also take shakes before and after boxing?

No...take it from me don't drink anything heavy before you train boxing wise all the bouncing around and intense cardio will make that **** come up also you don't want to get hit in the stomach with a shake in your stomach. I speak from experience I've seen plenty of people drink protein shakes right before they come to the gym and they either wind up yacking in the spit bucket or stopping their training.

You need explosive movements if you want to build strength that corelate to boxing movements. And doing these explosive movements at high reps to build endurance. Squats, Rows, Bench Press, Tricep Presses, A lot of medicine ball work with a partner or a wall, pull-ups, push-ups, and a lot of ab/core work as well. Plyometrics are great for boxing when done right. Also you don't want concentrate that much on weight lifting to the point that it may slow you down if you do too much of it in the wrong fashion.

[djartek]

No, I am trying to have good looking muscles and be a good boxer.

Good looking muscles do not make you a good boxer at all...so you need to get that thought out of your head. Trying to look like Ronnie, Jay, Arnold, or anyother bodybuilder isn't going to help you at all in boxing. Skill, Technique, Smarts, Coordination, and Timing make a good boxer.

[Kozma]

By boxing 5 times a week you arent leaving much time for lifting. I would say box 3 times a week only.

[GoJu]

you'll burn a lot of fat boxing 5 times per week, I would just stick to a basic routine full of compound exercises, a bodybuilding split will only make you tired and unable to train boxing.

the best bang for your buck exercises would be:

squat (preferebly front squat)
press (preferebly military press)
pull (preferebly clean)

the three I mentioned will give you a lot of explosive power, then again back squat, bench press, deadlift are also great, stick to stuff like these maybe 2 times a week for like 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps and you should be good.

[zloy]

Good looking muscles do not make you a good boxer at all...so you need to get that thought out of your head. Trying to look like Ronnie, Jay, Arnold, or anyother bodybuilder isn't going to help you at all in boxing. Skill, Technique, Smarts, Coordination, and Timing make a good boxer.

u sound like broken record... I said I want good looking muscles and be a good boxer...

can you follow...

[zloy]

you'll burn a lot of fat boxing 5 times per week, I would just stick to a basic routine full of compound exercises, a bodybuilding split will only make you tired and unable to train boxing.

the best bang for your buck exercises would be:

squat (preferebly front squat)
press (preferebly military press)
pull (preferebly clean)

the three I mentioned will give you a lot of explosive power, then again back squat, bench press, deadlift are also great, stick to stuff like these maybe 2 times a week for like 3-5 sets of 3-5 reps and you should be good.

Thats what I had in mind squat/ deadlift/ bench / press / and maybe some rows

[gfundaro]

I've been taking MMA for several months now, and I found it difficult to attain hypertrophy even when I was eating more calories. Now I've decided I need to lose more fat, but keep in mind that those intense cardio workouts are tough on your muscles. I've really had to cut back and I've noticed larger gains in strength when I'm just running for my cardio. I miss boxing though :-( I was good at it.

[matthor]

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[zloy]

I've been taking MMA for several months now, and I found it difficult to attain hypertrophy even when I was eating more calories. Now I've decided I need to lose more fat, but keep in mind that those intense cardio workouts are tough on your muscles. I've really had to cut back and I've noticed larger gains in strength when I'm just running for my cardio. I miss boxing though :-( I was good at it.

sweet why did u quit boxing?

[zloy]

rosstraining.com

repping you

[muslimbeard]

Hi i am new here i dong know how to create post i ask you here i am training boxing and bodybuilding too i dont know how to mix it i am training boximg at night 3 times a week monday thursdey wednesdey and gym 5 times a week 12345 before the boxing gym my height is 158 wheight 58 kg i whant up boxing wheight class to 65 or 70 i doing mass how mix it?

[muslimbeard]

Hi i am new here i dong know how to create post i ask you here i am training boxing and bodybuilding too i dont know how to mix it i am training boximg at night 3 times a week monday thursdey wednesdey and gym 5 times a week 12345 before the boxing gym my height is 158 wheight 58 kg i whant up boxing wheight class to 65 or 70 i doing mass how mix it?

Of course, you'd want to put special emphasis on shoulder, tricep, and chest exercises. Focus on doing moderate weight at higher repetition ranges. This will condition your red twitch fibers which are for endurance. You want your shoulders conditioned to help you keep your guard up and to deliver blows.

Chest exercises that include bringing your elbows in front of your chest like the pec dec, dumbell flies, and so on will help you with hooks. You'd want to focus on explosive tricep movements for straight jabs.

These are the exercsies I did when training Muay Thai a few years ago.

Don't neglect leg exercises for stability and balance. Drink your shake at least 1 hour before training that way you don't throw it up in the gym!