Good friend got hosed in Divorce....mind blow how unfair the law is with this chit...

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

First off I am not one of those redpill *******s who hates women and is anti marriage, but holy fuk I couldn't believe how badly my buddy got rekt in a divorce. I've never had a close friend who got divorced so my only experience was the stories I read.

Cliffs because I know misc doesn't read:

- bro with chick for 10yrs/married for 6 with 2 kids
- chick cheats with 18 year old lowlife
- she wants divorce
- accuses him falsely of abuse, bro is arrested (released after proven false, bout 12hrs in jail....he was in a fukkin back brace at time of accusation from car accident)
- chick gets free legal counsel for divorce ( bro is out 8K so far)
- bro gets destroyed for about 45% of weekly paycheck in child support
- gets his kids every other weekend, and Sunday from like 12-5 on the other weekend.

Feel so bad for the dude because he recently got in a terrible car accident as well, just having a terrible run at things. I honestly don't understand how the legal process for divorce and child support has not been looked at and revamped to account for all this " equality" that is supposed to exist these days.

[Kay4Kool]

Don't marry sloots


The system does suck

The way they look at it is forgone wages by the woman to live her life with the man etc and she's gonna be taking care of the kids

Choice in picking a mate is #1

but I agree it does have to be changed or change the country you live in

[requital]

equality is like the war on drugs and terrorism, it does not exist.

[Tune5k]

Dude wtf? How the hell does child support work...is there EVER an instance where women pay child support? Srs. I feel like I've never heard it

[BadumTish]

"This is why I need feminism"

[LifeChoices]

If you can't handle the risks (like me) just don't get involved with women too deeply/emotionally.

keep them at a distance

wear protection

and you and your assets will be safe

only sacrifice youll have to make is offspring, but who gives a chit?


ps: check your state laws. After some time, they may consider you a couple if living together and then shes automatically entitled to your chit, kids or not

stay safe

[theRealGriNC]

If you can't handle the risks (like me) just don't get involved with women too deeply/emotionally.

keep them at a distance

wear protection

and you and your assets will be safe

only sacrifice youll have to make is offspring, but who gives a chit?


ps: check your state laws. After some time, they may consider you a couple if living together and then shes automatically entitled to your chit, kids or not

stay safe

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[chalup]

Dude wtf? How the hell does child support work...is there EVER an instance where women pay child support? Srs. I feel like I've never heard it

In Tennessee they use a wage system not exactly sure how it works but the father always has to provide insurance, and then the base it off how many days you get compared to your wage. I have split custody and pay for my kids insurance, Im owed 8 bucks a month in child support. But she gets to file income tax on our kid every year.

[grinch031]

I tend to want to hear both sides before judging. One thing to consider is if you and a stay-at-home wife get divorced, its going to be pretty difficult for her to find a job that pays well enough to be financially independent especially if she has full custody of younger kids. It wouldn't be fair that you can remain financially independent just because you were the income earner during the marriage and the other partner needs to start from scratch.

My mom and dad divorced after 25 years, and my dad tried to avoid paying her any alimony or sharing his retirement because to him its her problem if she didn't have income or a career. She did stay at home with 3 kids all those years, all of which were adults by this time. I actually get angered when someone thinks their spouse isn't entitled to any of their income after spending all that time together. In marriage you are a team. There is an expectation that the stay-at-home spouse is going to be taken care of. When the marriage doesn't work out, stuff needs to be divided so that one doesn't end up on the streets.

[badbl00d]

The social welfare system needs to stop rewarding women for this type of behavior. A woman pops out a couple kids, get's tired of you, doesn't want you anymore, but wants/needs your cash. Cheats, and gets her cake and eat it too. We need to set a standard of "If you cheat, you get nothing.". Now he's going to be eating dog food living out of a shoebox while that kid is sleeping in his bed, and eating the food he's paying for. Not to mention the security risk of having 18 year olds over the house around his children.

Women are not victims...they are adults of free will just like we are, and need to pay the consequences. PERIOD. When it was found that her allegations of abuse were a lie, it should have changed EVERYTHING. He should at the very least have his children...because the mother doesn't exercise sound judgement at all.

[mischman]

Most guys who end up in those situations asked for it a long time before it happens.

They ignore obvious red flags and try the whole Captian-save-a-ho routine.(Every sloot on the planet waves red flags.*Newtons 500th law of motion*)

It never pans out

So they kinda have to accept most of the blame for the situation they're in

[PTzFree]

Seen this a million times. The kids always end up worse for the wear, too. They'll end up with a million life-long issues to battle. I've got 4 different holiday events to attend this month -- JUST ON THE WIFE'S SIDE because of this kind of chit. Everyone has to have their own special day, nothing is combined, yada yada yada.

[Marie646]

45% of his paycheck? What state? I thought the top out was 16%.

[BustaCapp]

The divorce laws seems worse in America than anywhere else.

[ChiBearsfan]

Child support is pretty simple.

You pay to support your children.

Payments go to the parent who provides primary residence for the kids (usually the mom).

I honestly have no problems paying my child support. My kids asked me why I never buy them clothes, and why their mom pays for all of their camps, and other stuff, and I told them I give their mom over $1000 every 2 weeks to pay for their chit. Their minds were blown by the thought of $1000 every 2 weeks, now they think I am loaded, but they know where their chit comes from.


Honestly the most "unfair" part is that the child support payment is supposed to cover a portion of their housing cost at their primary residence, their mom pays it into a mortgage, and when she sells, she's not going to give the portion of her house I paid for back to the kids. On top of it, I had to buy a house big enough for them to have bedrooms.

But honestly, when I had kids, I expected that a significant part of my paycheck would go to pay for them, so child support does not bother me at all.


Alimony would piss me off, but Illinois does not make you pay alimony.

[DatPass]

ITT: why you get a lawyer. This chit only happens when you're retarded.


edit: brah above me, it's not only child support... you can get 100% ****ed by alimony just because you were working while your wife was at home with the kids.

[BenedictSH]

Its about maintaining what she's accustomed to/her same standard of life basically. The idea is that for example you cant be middle/upper-middle class always going out spending money on things, then suddenly divorce her and expect her to suddenly live on a measly amount thats just enough to survive.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

I tend to want to hear both sides before judging. One thing to consider is if you and a stay-at-home wife get divorced, its going to be pretty difficult for her to find a job that pays well enough to be financially independent especially if she has full custody of younger kids. It wouldn't be fair that you can remain financially independent just because you were the income earner during the marriage and the other partner needs to start from scratch.

My mom and dad divorced after 25 years, and my dad tried to avoid paying her any alimony or sharing his retirement because to him its her problem if she didn't have income or a career. She did stay at home with 3 kids all those years, all of which were adults by this time. I actually get angered when someone thinks their spouse isn't entitled to any of their income after spending all that time together. In marriage you are a team. There is an expectation that the stay-at-home spouse is going to be taken care of. When the marriage doesn't work out, stuff needs to be divided so that one doesn't end up on the streets.

In a normal divorce yes I totally understand your point.

My issue is that the woman was unfaithful, ruined the marriage AND she was unwilling to attempt to make things work. My Bro wanted to try for sake of the kids. She completely shut it down.

Not to mention the false allegations of abuse, and SHE cheated!! This kind of behavior does not warrant child support. If she cannot support the kids my bro should receive full custody of the children.

[Marie646]

ITT: why you get a lawyer. This chit only happens when you're retarded.


edit: brah above me, it's not only child support... you can get 100% ****ed by alimony just because you were working while your wife was at home with the kids.

He had an attorney that he's already paid eight grand for

[ChiBearsfan]

45% of his paycheck? What state? I thought the top out was 16%.

Illinois is 28% but you have to pay expenses like day care, camp, sports on top of the child support (food, clothes, housing).

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

State is Pennsylvania BTW for all those asking.

Mind you I'm going with what he told me.

[Fang2]

If you can't handle the risks (like me) just don't get involved with women too deeply/emotionally.

keep them at a distance

wear protection

and you and your assets will be safe

only sacrifice youll have to make is offspring, but who gives a chit?


ps: check your state laws. After some time, they may consider you a couple if living together and then shes automatically entitled to your chit, kids or not

stay safe

Life Choices is right.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

Its about maintaining what she's accustomed to/her same standard of life basically. The idea is that for example you cant be middle/upper-middle class always going out spending money on things, then suddenly divorce her and expect her to suddenly live on a measly amount thats just enough to survive.

He did not want the divorce, she did. After she was unfaithful.

[mischman]

In a normal divorce yes I totally understand your point.

My issue is that the woman was unfaithful, ruined the marriage AND she was unwilling to attempt to make things work. My Bro wanted to try for sake of the kids. She completely shut it down.

Not to mention the false allegations of abuse, and SHE cheated!! This kind of behavior does not warrant child support. If she cannot support the kids my bro should receive full custody of the children.

That's like the second dumbest thing he could do.Srs

[BenedictSH]

Child support is pretty simple.

You pay to support your children.

Payments go to the parent who provides primary residence for the kids (usually the mom).

I honestly have no problems paying my child support. My kids asked me why I never buy them clothes, and why their mom pays for all of their camps, and other stuff, and I told them I give their mom over $1000 every 2 weeks to pay for their chit. Their minds were blown by the thought of $1000 every 2 weeks, now they think I am loaded, but they know where their chit comes from.


Honestly the most "unfair" part is that the child support payment is supposed to cover a portion of their housing cost at their primary residence, their mom pays it into a mortgage, and when she sells, she's not going to give the portion of her house I paid for back to the kids. On top of it, I had to buy a house big enough for them to have bedrooms.

But honestly, when I had kids, I expected that a significant part of my paycheck would go to pay for them, so child support does not bother me at all.


Alimony would piss me off, but Illinois does not make you pay alimony.

You sound like such a success.

Great role model.

Bet your kids will look up to you.

[HomerJThompson]

I tend to want to hear both sides before judging. One thing to consider is if you and a stay-at-home wife get divorced, its going to be pretty difficult for her to find a job that pays well enough to be financially independent especially if she has full custody of younger kids. It wouldn't be fair that you can remain financially independent just because you were the income earner during the marriage and the other partner needs to start from scratch.

My mom and dad divorced after 25 years, and my dad tried to avoid paying her any alimony or sharing his retirement because to him its her problem if she didn't have income or a career. She did stay at home with 3 kids all those years, all of which were adults by this time. I actually get angered when someone thinks their spouse isn't entitled to any of their income after spending all that time together. In marriage you are a team. There is an expectation that the stay-at-home spouse is going to be taken care of. When the marriage doesn't work out, stuff needs to be divided so that one doesn't end up on the streets.

In ops friends case, she cheated and broke the marriage contract. So she deserves to be on the streets. If the husband had cheated, i would totally agree with the judges current decision.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

The social welfare system needs to stop rewarding women for this type of behavior. A woman pops out a couple kids, get's tired of you, doesn't want you anymore, but wants/needs your cash. Cheats, and gets her cake and eat it too. We need to set a standard of "If you cheat, you get nothing.". Now he's going to be eating dog food living out of a shoebox while that kid is sleeping in his bed, and eating the food he's paying for. Not to mention the security risk of having 18 year olds over the house around his children.

Women are not victims...they are adults of free will just like we are, and need to pay the consequences. PERIOD. When it was found that her allegations of abuse were a lie, it should have changed EVERYTHING. He should at the very least have his children...because the mother doesn't exercise sound judgement at all.

Would rep ya, but got you recently. Agreed.

[Groce]

Child support is one thing, but that 'spousal support' is the biggest pile of bullcrap ever created, it's based on the premise that the wife is used to living a certain lifestyle so when they get divorced the husband has to keep paying for her to keep that lavish lifestyle because she's somehow entitled to it, this is where you see the real disgusting side of the system stuff like paul mccartney's divorce where he's forced to pay like 500 million dollars so his ex wife can keep living in mansions. chit makes me rage so hard.

[BenedictSH]

He did not want the divorce, she did. After she was unfaithful.

He signed the contract. He made the deal.

[JUGGERNAUT1333]

That's like the second dumbest thing he could do.Srs

Definitely don't agree with it, but just laying out the information brah. He knows now, and would not get back with her. The initial depression and everything got to him when it first happened.