Deadlift only to increase squat

[pierrson]

Long story short; ive herniated L5S1 and any movement with spinal compression i.e squat hurts and isnt worth to grind through. Weird thing is, hurts to squat 1x bw. 3x bw on deads actually feels better and the ortopedic says it might due to be lordosis/excessive spinal compression from squatting everyday.

Question here: did anyone had experience of deadlifts only (deficit, convt, snatch grip, sumo) with some accessories like lunges variations carryover to the squat without squatting?

[MedicChris3]

Long story short; ive herniated L5S1 and any movement with spinal compression i.e squat hurts and isnt worth to grind through. Weird thing is, hurts to squat 1x bw. 3x bw on deads actually feels better and the ortopedic says it might due to be lordosis/excessive spinal compression from squatting everyday.

Question here: did anyone had experience of deadlifts only (deficit, convt, snatch grip, sumo) with some accessories like lunges variations carryover to the squat without squatting?

A lot of high level powerlifters talk about how Squat/Deadlift bolster each other. They are both heavy lower body movements and although deadlift is much more of a back centered movement, many low bar squatters tend to good morning a bit and use their back on the way up. Theres definitely carry over from one to another.

[NotThatUgly]

A lot of high level powerlifters talk about how Squat/Deadlift bolster each other. They are both heavy lower body movements and although deadlift is much more of a back centered movement, many low bar squatters tend to good morning a bit and use their back on the way up. Theres definitely carry over from one to another.

There's carry over, but if you're already proficient at a lift and completely stop doing it, that lift will almost definitely suffer no matter how many auxiliary movements you're doing.

[lifterut]

I always felt like sumo deadlift and squat had big carryover. My squat and sumo are always within 20lbs of each other. Conventional lags behind by a good 70lbs.

[Radicalnotions]

I would think sumo deadlifts help wide stance squats and conventional deadlifts help narrow stance squats. And vice versa.

[fcknDan]

I originally pulled conventional but I wanted to improve on my squats.
Sumo/Semi-Sumo deadlifts definitely helped.
However, like it was said above, not doing the movement will cause it to suffer.

[MedicChris3]

There's carry over, but if you're already proficient at a lift and completely stop doing it, that lift will almost definitely suffer no matter how many auxiliary movements you're doing.

Absolutely, I'm not saying he's going to make "gains" on his squat by doing deadlift, just that there is carryover and the same muscle groups are being heavily taxed with each lift.

[italianplaya30]

if you want to get better at squatting you should be squatting. while there will be carry over its better to be as specific as possible and squat

[pierrson]

knew pretty much the answer would be to improve squat u gotta squat. seems like no one had experience on a deadlift only/no squat cycle!
oh well, i'll know in prolly a year's time when my slipped disc heals up and for its deadlifts everyday and lunges every other day.
thanks for the opinions though

[kaleida]

Yeah, unfortunately the negative effect of not squatting is probably going to outweigh any positive effects.

There might be some positive effects, just that you won't notice them because your squat takes a hit from not squatting.

I can think of at least one example I have run into some carryover from deadlift to squat: When my back hurts or my mobility sucks after a big push of deadlift volume, then I do trigger point release, and that trigger point release often helps my squat. For example at some point last year I had to do psoas trigger point to fix some lower back pain, and after psoas trigger point release I noticed much better glute activation in my squat. I think that happened because psoas & glutes are antagnoists - when one contracts, the other has trouble contracting, and my psoas before I released it was pretty much permanently contracted. I have run into a scenario like that with a few different muscles and a few different lifts - doing mobility work to help recovery for one lift sometimes benefits me in a different lift.