Protein Bars Destroying Your Gains?? (especially post workout)

[TIUjoe]

I've been doing some research on soy after realizing it is in a majority of protein bars and even makes up the majority of the protein in the bars...

This stuff is doing more harm than good for your gains.

Made a quick video (5 minutes) to explain the issue, let me know what you guys think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TmZB468gPs

It's homemade bars from here on out for me!

[kbayne]

Not sure what protein bars you are eating

[TIUjoe]

Not sure what protein bars you are eating

PowerBar, ClifBar (Builder), Clif just to name a few. The only one I've seen that doesn't have soy in it so far is Quest.

[kbayne]

PowerBar, ClifBar (Builder), Clif just to name a few. The only one I've seen that doesn't have soy in it so far is Quest.

There is your problem.

Chef Irvine Fit Crunch / Fit Crunch Elite
Met-Rx Protein Plus
Combat Crunch
Oh YEAH ONE

[TIUjoe]

There is your problem.

Chef Irvine Fit Crunch / Fit Crunch Elite
Met-Rx Protein Plus
Combat Crunch
Oh YEAH ONE

I'll check those out KB thanks!

[kbayne]

I'll check those out KB thanks!

Fit Crunch are GOAT just so you know

[compan]

Fit Crunch are GOAT just so you know

This.

Peanut Butter > CnC > CCCD > All other bars (for pure taste/texture)

[jbeuhdoe]

Fit Crunch are GOAT just so you know

I won't lie, the first time I tried Fit Crunch, I thought they were OK, but quite over-hyped. Tried again not long ago and will have to agree, easily the best bar out there. Taste and texture are on point. Found them for hella cheap at Wal-Mart of all places.

[kbayne]

I won't lie, the first time I tried Fit Crunch, I thought they were OK, but quite over-hyped. Tried again not long ago and will have to agree, easily the best bar out there. Taste and texture are on point. Found them for hella cheap at Wal-Mart of all places.

I can't wait to add them back into my diet soon!

[AMeyer9]

This.

Peanut Butter > CnC > CCCD > All other bars (for pure taste/texture)

Bruh... CCCD > PB > CnC

[danielmoo]

This.

Peanut Butter > CnC > CCCD > All other bars (for pure taste/texture)

Bruh... CCCD > PB > CnC

Actually - CnC > CCCD/PB. Sorry fellas. Broken tastebuds, etc.

[addictR3]

heard combat bars are pretty good. Only tried a Quest, Oh Yeah

[The Solution]

Fit Crunch are GOAT just so you know

Still got to get these

Chef Irvine
Oh yeah One (lemon are awesome)
Quest

ones i have tried and all enjoyed.

[iamjeffrey]

just an excuse to post his youtube video link

[bdillingham5]

Anybody try the MyProtein Chox bars? Or the Protein cookies? Heard those are the new black.....

[Msistine]

Bruh... CCCD > PB > CnC

das it

Actually - CnC > CCCD/PB. Sorry fellas. Broken tastebuds, etc.

CCCD > PB > blank space for any future flavors > CNC.

Don't even waste my time or OPs with a response - he's still lethargic from the soy crisps and I'm tired of hearing you babble on the forums. Besides I already know what you're going to say.

[TIUjoe]

Fit Crunch are GOAT just so you know

I'm going to have to check these out then. Looks like they are getting some good feedback. Better than Quest (taste wise)?

[Misctake7]

Fit Crunch are delicious! Quest, Victory One, Fit Elite, Combat Crunch, Met-RX Big100.

But why protein bars after a workout? Why not an actual meal?

[TIUjoe]

Fit Crunch are delicious! Quest, Victory One, Fit Elite, Combat Crunch, Met-RX Big100.

But why protein bars after a workout? Why not an actual meal?

After a workout, you want the amino acids to be delivered to your muscle tissue for repair and recovery. Whey protein (or lean protein sources like egg whites or chicken breast) are the best for delivering high quality aminos to that damaged muscle tissue.

Soy has a weak amino acid profile and it also circulates its nutrients more in the organs of the gut than the muscle tissue.

Which is why I especially wouldn't have a protein bar loaded with soy post-workout. However, small dosages of soy shouldn't be an issue if you have it as a daytime snack or a bar as a meal replacement.

[23Banks]

This.

Peanut Butter > CnC > CCCD > All other bars (for pure taste/texture)

This.

[powercage]

I love fit crunch.


Sadly, received my first box of stale fit crunch bars this week from bb.com

womp womp

[Rob1882]

After a workout, you want the amino acids to be delivered to your muscle tissue for repair and recovery. Whey protein (or lean protein sources like egg whites or chicken breast) are the best for delivering high quality aminos to that damaged muscle tissue.

Soy has a weak amino acid profile and it also circulates its nutrients more in the organs of the gut than the muscle tissue.

Which is why I especially wouldn't have a protein bar loaded with soy post-workout. However, small dosages of soy shouldn't be an issue if you have it as a daytime snack or a bar as a meal replacement.

Makes no difference pre/post or anytime its amino acid profile also irrelevant, your total intake is likely from a variety of sources.

It is a complete protein many bar's use a blend of proteins using whey & soy

Soy fear is staggeringly absurd

[TIUjoe]

I love fit crunch.


Sadly, received my first box of stale fit crunch bars this week from bb.com

womp womp

I'm going to have to order me some of those then, hopefully they got rid of all the stale ones lol

[Bigdumogre]

After a workout, you want the amino acids to be delivered to your muscle tissue for repair and recovery. Whey protein (or lean protein sources like egg whites or chicken breast) are the best for delivering high quality aminos to that damaged muscle tissue.

Soy has a weak amino acid profile and it also circulates its nutrients more in the organs of the gut than the muscle tissue.

Which is why I especially wouldn't have a protein bar loaded with soy post-workout. However, small dosages of soy shouldn't be an issue if you have it as a daytime snack or a bar as a meal replacement.

Spoiler!

[TIUjoe]

Makes no difference pre/post or anytime its amino acid profile also irrelevant, your total intake is likely from a variety of sources.

It is a complete protein many bar's use a blend of proteins using whey & soy

Soy fear is staggeringly absurd

I believe it makes a huge difference pre/post workout. You wouldn't consume soy pre/post workout for similar reasons you wouldn't want to be digesting high fats and high fiber pre/post workout. More blood flow to the gut region for digestion as opposed to the muscle tissue.

Take a look at this article: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-t...-training-men/

Not trying to instill soy fear, it's just not optimal.

[Rob1882]

I believe it makes a huge difference pre/post workout. You wouldn't consume soy pre/post workout for similar reasons you wouldn't want to be digesting high fats and high fiber pre/post workout. More blood flow to the gut region for digestion as opposed to the muscle tissue.

Take a look at this article: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-t...-training-men/

Not trying to instill soy fear, it's just not optimal.

Studies are conflicted on soy in general and often are using single source protein it's not how people in general eat their are entire cultures who have consumed diets high in soy for thousands of years and further in the US soy is prob 2nd only to corn in consumption in general.

Moderation of anything is needed and as to your ideas on post workout nutrition I 100% disagree and you have shown nothing to support the claim - the idea that you need a meal directly after has long since been shown to be bro science just eat a meal when you can. Eating high fat post daily.

Eating a variety of foods is always going to be ideal

[adamci1]

this may have been relevant 5 yrs ago... now there are so many options that not only taste good but have a great profile, this is a moot point.

[Rob1882]

this may have been relevant 5 yrs ago... now there are so many options that not only taste good but have a great profile, this is a moot point.

Also a good point there are a LOT of options on the market many dozens of which only use whey/whey isolate

[JeepCreeper]

There is your problem.

Chef Irvine Fit Crunch / Fit Crunch Elite

Fit Crunch contains soy, sorry.

[powercage]

I'm going to have to order me some of those then, hopefully they got rid of all the stale ones lol

yea, theyre pretty hard and not very tasty