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    There΄s very little difference. The competition equipment is slightly more expensive, but it is only slightly, and that is only to cover a cost for final calibration certification.

    The bars and discs are almost exactly the same between the Training and Competition versions. There is a subtle difference in the knurling on the bar, the competition bar has a slightly more coarse knurling, the training bar is just toned down slightly so it can be used for more reps. Then the competition gets a final calibration certification and a sticker in the centre of the bar (yellow for woman bar, blue for mens bar), which the training bar does not get - In essence, they are exactly the same, same steel, same bearings, same whip, same components totally, manufactured, tested and assembled in exactly the same way, in Sweden.

    The discs are identical, except for a final calibration certification that the competition discs get. Very small price difference as the product is exactly the same.

    The competition and training collars are totally different. The comp collars are 50mm wide, the training collars are 71mm wide - The comp collars have a ship wheel type method of clamping down, the training collar has a knurling ring to clamp down. The training collars are almost identical to a pair of Ivanko COC2.5kg. The comp collars are more than double the price of the training collars. The comp collars are totally superior to the training collars (IMO), just easier/faster to clamp the plates tightly, of course the training collars are excellent too, just like the Ivanko COCs are. Both internally have the pressure ring to clamp onto the bar.

    The 2.5kg and 5kg change plates are exactly the same, competition or training.

    The smaller 0.5 - 2kg change plates are "friction grip" with the competition line, and non friction grip with the training line. Very small price difference between them again.

    Looking at the image, I don't know what the "fractional" plates are, but they aren't Eleiko. (the white, black, red and blue pairs next to the training collar, directly on the rubber platform). Rogue do a set of "fractional" with those colours, they look similar from what I can see.
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    Originally Posted by ubernoob View Post
    Besides my ivanko plates and bar this is the best quality that has popped up in my area in 6 years (srs). I am tempted and in discussion to get the training set. The guy sells a crapload of quality items and I am assuming he is moving as he sold a nice GHD for less than half the cost and I missed out by 15 minutes. Tempted but if I get this my GHD purchase is gone.
    You're in SA? Cool.

    Yeah, they look great. 80% of new price for year old Eleiko is solid pricing, and the more I look at the ad the more I want to go get them lol.
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    Eleiko USA shows the power lock bars and collars available for pre-sale with a March delivery. Curious to see one of these in action.
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    I still haven't seen these in use yet. My supplier still doesn't have stock.



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    Eleiko USA shows the power lock bars and collars available for pre-sale with a March delivery. Curious to see one of these in action.
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    I cant find any info on these or how much they would sell for. I feel like they are old at least maybe 70s. All the pics i see on line are of different plates, maybe these are rare
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    Originally Posted by ahoskinson44 View Post
    http://imagecdn.bodybuilding.com/gal...d0-100x100.jpg



    I cant find any info on these or how much they would sell for. I feel like they are old at least maybe 70s. All the pics i see on line are of different plates, maybe these are rare
    Pm me back and we can talk prices if you are looking to sell.
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    The image is so small I can hardly see them. Do you have a larger image?





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    I cant find any info on these or how much they would sell for. I feel like they are old at least maybe 70s. All the pics i see on line are of different plates, maybe these are rare
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    Real nice find!!

    I΄ve asked someone and hope they can give us a bit more information on these. I΄ll update if they come back with information.




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    I dont know how to copy and paste an email but i received a reply back from Eleiko. They said they were from the 1960s and they are uncommon.
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    That is very cool news. I΄d certainly call a 60s set of Eleiko a special find. I love the worn look, I wouldn΄t do anything to them other than a light clean, and then lift them of course

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    I dont know how to copy and paste an email but i received a reply back from Eleiko. They said they were from the 1960s and they are uncommon.
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    Originally Posted by MonkeyT View Post
    That is very cool news. I΄d certainly call a 60s set of Eleiko a special find. I love the worn look, I wouldn΄t do anything to them other than a light clean, and then lift them of course

    Have you heard anything back on any info for these?
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    Originally Posted by ahoskinson44 View Post
    Have you heard anything back on any info for these?
    Unfortuantely not. There΄s very little information on vintage Eleiko, it΄s a shame imo.
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    New product from Eleiko? Can't say I've seen these before, also somewhat surprised as they don't seem to fit into the normal product offerings.... at least to me

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    They aren't new. I΄m not sure when they were introduced but the Vulcano range has certainly been available a few years at least. I think they are generally unknown to most as, like you say, they aren't really mainstream Eleiko products.

    I looked at buying some quite some time ago and asked if they had any smell (as I had just had a terrible experience with some other rubber plates that stunk), I was told they didn΄t have any smell. I also asked if they were made in Sweden, I΄m not 100% sure, but I think I remember them telling me that they are one of the few Eleiko products that are not made in-house in Sweden (XF bumpers are not made in Sweden for sure, but again have no discernible smell - That was what I bought in the end).

    EDIT - I had a look back and found some images for the Vulcano range from 2012. I then found an Eleiko PDF which was published in May 2012, it could well be the actual release of the plates, but in any event they were certainly available as far back as May 2012.



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    New product from Eleiko? Can't say I've seen these before, also somewhat surprised as they don't seem to fit into the normal product offerings.... at least to me

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    Eleiko USA shows the power lock bars and collars available for pre-sale with a March delivery. Curious to see one of these in action.
    Short (Eleiko marketing) video showing the Powerlock collar in use.

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    The bickering and insults need to stop. Not going to clean up this thread again.
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    Couple shots of my Eleiko Sport Training Bar (45lb version) that's a couple months old:

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    lightly ribbed sleeve (and my wife's cute 10kg Rogue bar):


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    (upper bar is Rogue B&R 2.0 bare steel bar, middle bar is American Barbell stainless Oly Comp bar, lower is Eleiko Sport Training chrome bar)


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    I'm really enjoying the bar. The bar spin PHENOMENAL is and there were zero quality issues with the bar. I purchased it new (on sale) direct from EleikoShop.com. Spin is so quick that it makes back squatting and bench press a bit scary as the bar wants to roll if you're not careful. I mainly use it for cleans & deadlifting.
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    sleeve collar thickness:
    (upper bar is Rogue B&R 2.0 bare steel bar, middle bar is American Barbell stainless Oly Comp bar, lower is Eleiko Sport Training chrome bar)
    this picture is beautiful. how do you like the B&R2.0? do you have a specific use for it vs the other bars?
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    this picture is beautiful. how do you like the B&R2.0? do you have a specific use for it vs the other bars?
    Thanks Dom. The Rogue B&R 2.0 is awesome. I love bare steel so it's right up my alley. The B&R 2.0 is my main bar for back squats, bench press, and press. If I could change one thing about it, I would leave off the oly knurl marks. It has dual knurl marks (power & oly), but it's a stiff 29mm bar. It just seems like 29mm bars should stick to powerlifting knurl marks, IMO. The knurling is really, really nice. I owned an Ohio Power Bar (bare steel) but sold it as the knurl was a bit too harsh when I would use it for press and bench press. The B&R 2.0 has a perfect moderate knurl pattern.

    I really don't need two nice 28mm Olympic Bars, but I grabbed both when they had pretty great BF sales (AB 2 years ago, the Eleiko last year).. They also have very different feels to their knurl and spin. The AB bar has a very fine, but still grippy knurl in stainless with a smooth controlled spin.. I think the AB is my favorite bar. The Eleiko is a sharper knurl in chrome with insane spin. I like using the Eleiko for deadlifts due to the sharper knurl, and I also use it for lower rep, heavier cleans. I tend to grab the AB for higher rep cleans and snatches, and sometimes for shoulder press.. just because the stainless knurl feels so awesome.
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    Nice.

    Agree on the B&R2, I would have bought one but for the dual markers, I don't like the hybrid standpoint - I went with the OHP in the end because of this. (plus it was easier to get the OHP in Europe but i didn΄t mind waiting if necessary, nearly got the AB stainless SPB but shipping was double the bar price, Rogue delivery to Europe wasn't that bad).

    Regarding the Sport spin, I had the Sport bar initially and the spin was fantastic out of the packaging, the bar was unbelievable in feel compared to anything I΄d had previously, there certainly is an "Eleiko feel" which I loved from the outset! I upgraded it to a Training Bar (just because - lol) and when comparing it to the Sport I was slightly disappointed with the Training Bar spin, it just wasn't as fluid, which surprised me. Don't get me wrong, the Training Bar spin out of the box is good, very good, it just didn΄t seem as good as the Sport bar I had. This said, now the Training Bar is a few months old it has loosened up but I don't think even now it has the spin as good as the Sport was - There certainly is a very large case towards having a Sport Bar over anything else in the range - IMO - It is totally fantastic, same bar, same testing, totally the same feel, same everything except the 2 bearings - Congrats on the purchase, awesome bar indeed.

    PS - Pure greed to have a stainless AB too. Jelly

    Originally Posted by thejosef View Post
    Thanks Dom. The Rogue B&R 2.0 is awesome. I love bare steel so it's right up my alley. The B&R 2.0 is my main bar for back squats, bench press, and press. If I could change one thing about it, I would leave off the oly knurl marks. It has dual knurl marks (power & oly), but it's a stiff 29mm bar. It just seems like 29mm bars should stick to powerlifting knurl marks, IMO. The knurling is really, really nice. I owned an Ohio Power Bar (bare steel) but sold it as the knurl was a bit too harsh when I would use it for press and bench press. The B&R 2.0 has a perfect moderate knurl pattern.

    I really don't need two nice 28mm Olympic Bars, but I grabbed both when they had pretty great BF sales (AB 2 years ago, the Eleiko last year).. They also have very different feels to their knurl and spin. The AB bar has a very fine, but still grippy knurl in stainless with a smooth controlled spin.. I think the AB is my favorite bar. The Eleiko is a sharper knurl in chrome with insane spin. I like using the Eleiko for deadlifts due to the sharper knurl, and I also use it for lower rep, heavier cleans. I tend to grab the AB for higher rep cleans and snatches, and sometimes for shoulder press.. just because the stainless knurl feels so awesome.
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    Eleiko Power Lock Barbell

    Review use of the collar::

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofnJBNjgFB8

    Garage Gym Full Review

    http://www.garage-gyms.com/new-eleik...ng-bar-review/

    Hope to see a review from a user here soon

    Personally, I decided not to get one for the time being, I am so happy with my current Training Bar I don't want to go to the bother of selling it to get a Power Lock at this stage. In truth, I hardly ever use collars even though I have the Comp WL version - I was also concerned (as was the reviewer above) about the durability of the chrome on the edges of the ridged sleeves, it probably won't be an issue but only time will tell on that score.


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    Short (Eleiko marketing) video showing the Powerlock collar in use.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO-frSwNEN0
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    Originally Posted by MonkeyT View Post
    Review use of the collar::

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofnJBNjgFB8

    Garage Gym Full Review

    http://www.garage-gyms.com/new-eleik...ng-bar-review/

    Hope to see a review from a user here soon

    Personally, I decided not to get one for the time being, I am so happy with my current Training Bar I don't want to go to the bother of selling it to get a Power Lock at this stage. In truth, I hardly ever use collars even though I have the Comp WL version - I was also concerned (as was the reviewer above) about the durability of the chrome on the edges of the ridged sleeves, it probably won't be an issue but only time will tell on that score.
    Neat stuff. It looks like those old Russian barbells. Panatta uses a similar design...

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    Healthnut, have you seen Panatta's "OLYMPIC STANDARD BARBELL" and collars ? Do you have more info on the bar and collars?

    http://www.panattasport.com/en/product/1BC56.html

    The photo on their website is sort of small but it looks like the old Russian barbells with the grooved sleeves.

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    Yeh, totally!

    I΄ve been on the lookout for a Russian Bar for a long time. Then Eleiko bought this out... Tempting to say the least.

    I looked into the Panatta last year, emailed them many times for further information and never got a reply. Lack of information on their website about them for sure.

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    Neat stuff. It looks like those old Russian barbells. Panatta uses a similar design...
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    Originally Posted by MonkeyT View Post
    Short (Eleiko marketing) video showing the Powerlock collar in use.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DO-frSwNEN0
    Just noticed this post. I would really like to have one of those bar and collar combinations.
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    Great shot of some older Eleiko. Not mine but thought the picture was pretty cool.

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    Hey MonkeyT, do you know if Eleiko makes their Sport Training discs in Sweden? I love this thread. I'm hoping to add a 12kg curl bar within the next couple weeks.
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    Originally Posted by MonkeyT View Post
    Great shot of some older Eleiko. Not mine but thought the picture was pretty cool.

    Cool - well worth posting.
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