Barack H. Obama has been the worst president we've ever had...srs

[HobgoblinJim]

This. Our country is racist as fuk. BRB he should be impeached but gets a pass because he's a certain color and if you disagree you're a racist. Lmao wtf.

Also, his name is f*cking BARRACK HUSSEIN OBAMA. How the F*CK can you get elected with a name that sounds similar to that of the scumbag behind the 9/11 atrocities?



Example of following the idiots who've changed Trump's ACTUAL words. He wants to keep out ILLEGALS. You realize he said NOTHING about getting rid of LEGAL Mexicans, right? Seriously, do you actually believe that he went on live TV and said "ALL MEXICANS MUST BE DEPORTED?" Lmfao. He said ILLEGALS need to be kept out. Do you not agree with this?

Calls country racist.
Profiles someone based on their name.

[nutsy54]

Yea, because we can't afford to occupy half of the middle east indefinitely. Obama isn't the kind of moron who cuts taxes then goes to war, making the budget explode.

Um, do you realize the deficit decreased in the years after tax cuts & wars were in full effect? The budget explosion didn't occur until the Pelosi-Reid Congress, amplified when Obama took office.

Obama is more of a fiscal conservative than Bush

Federal spending (and Obama's budget requests) are higher than ever, far more than under Bush, and you claim that means Obama is a "fiscal conservative"?

2008 federal spending: $2,982 Billion ... $3,300 Billion inflation-adjusted to 2015
2015 Obama budget request: $3,901 Billion

BRB - A 31% INCREASE is considered "fiscally conservative"?

[KaptainKandy]

Except he did that, too.... Doubled the Afghanistan War with another 50,000 troops (while 10,000 are still there). Continued the Iraq War for 1 1/2 years longer than promised (and now we have troops back there). Still blowing the hell out of Pakistan. Overthrew the Libyan government.


The latest jobs report shows the economy getting worse. Unemployment rates were nowhere near the optimistic results the Stimulus was supposed to deliver. The Fed has kept interest rates at 0 since he's been in office. None of his policies produced their claimed results.

While I'm no fan of Obama, unemployment has nearly entirely bounced back to pre-recession rates.

http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

Don't know what sensationalist media outlet you are pulling your stats from brah.

Lol at brahs who support candidates from either of the major parties.

[nutsy54]

While I'm no fan of Obama, unemployment has nearly entirely bounced back to pre-recession rates.
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000

The Stimulus was based on a claim it would reduce Unemployment to 6% by the start of 2012. Instead, it took until late 2014. Today's rate of 5.1% was supposed to be seen three years ago.

Don't know what sensationalist media outlet you are pulling your stats from brat.

USA Today is a "sensationalist media outlet"?
News that employment growth slowed for the second straight month in September renewed concerns about the economy and weakened the case for the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates later this year.
Employers added 142,000 jobs last month, the Labor Department said Friday, far below the gains of 203,000 that economists surveyed by Bloomberg had expected.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...rate/73171926/

[freekid2002]

Um, do you realize the deficit decreased in the years after tax cuts & wars were in full effect? The budget explosion didn't occur until the Pelosi-Reid Congress, amplified when Obama took office.


Federal spending (and Obama's budget requests) are higher than ever, far more than under Bush, and you claim that means Obama is a "fiscal conservative"?

2008 federal spending: $2,982 Billion ... $3,300 Billion inflation-adjusted to 2015
2015 Obama budget request: $3,901 Billion

BRB - A 31% INCREASE is considered "fiscally conservative"?

Hey

I keep hearing from liberals that obama has increased the amount of government spending by a lower percentage than any previous president since Hoover. Is this true?

[Marronis]

He isn't the worst

[Wh1teDyn0mite]

Not a Hillary fan but Obama has been one of our best.

Hillary is a mug. And Obama is a fool.

[unicornsRreal]

Hey

I keep hearing from liberals that obama has increased the amount of government spending by a lower percentage than any previous president since Hoover. Is this true?

No.......the liberals misrepresent and lie.

The truth is the budget deficit has been squeezed a bit lower the past couple of years "IN COMPARISON" to Obama 1st term and "his crazy out of control stimulus plan".

But the trend of budget deficit has increased over Obama's time in office. Spending and the national debt are still at unprecedented levels.

[freekid2002]

No.......the liberals misrepresent and lie.

The truth is the budget deficit has been squeezed a bit lower the past couple of years "IN COMPARISON" to Obama 1st term and "his crazy out of control stimulus plan".

But the trend of budget deficit has increased over Obama's time in office. Spending and the national debt are still at unprecedented levels.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nt_Act_of_2009

^^ this one?

Also, i came across this deficit chart




What do you make of it?

[VinnyPazRules]

he shouldve stopped the wars in iraq etc, waste of money.

at the same time all that military spending keeps the american economy moving...

you guys are fuked in general. don't forget what kind of economic deep anal penetration the last right-wing government enacted on the US of A

Lol short attention spans around here

[DIL22]

The Stimulus was based on a claim it would reduce Unemployment to 6% by the start of 2012. Instead, it took until late 2014. Today's rate of 5.1% was supposed to be seen three years ago.


USA Today is a "sensationalist media outlet"?
News that employment growth slowed for the second straight month in September renewed concerns about the economy and weakened the case for the Federal Reserve to raise interest rates later this year.
Employers added 142,000 jobs last month, the Labor Department said Friday, far below the gains of 203,000 that economists surveyed by Bloomberg had expected.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...rate/73171926/

So it's Obama's fault that global economic growth is slowing. Let's just be honest here and make a blanket statement that no matter what Obama has done, or will do you will disagree with it.

[nutsy54]

Hey

I keep hearing from liberals that obama has increased the amount of government spending by a lower percentage than any previous president since Hoover. Is this true?

I haven't done the analysis. It sounds like the standard "it's OK because everyone else did it, too" excuse for Obama's failures. Especially when those claims generally use 2009 and its massive "one-time" spending as the new baseline to compare the rest of his administration.

[nutsy54]

So it's Obama's fault that global economic growth is slowing. Let's just be honest here and make a blanket statement that no matter what Obama has done, or will do you will disagree with it.

Why are you making claims I never said? I stated simple Facts. If Obama's failures constantly need to be blamed on everyone & everything else, then why's he even President?

[freekid2002]

I haven't done the analysis. It sounds like the standard "it's OK because everyone else did it, too" excuse for Obama's failures. Especially when those claims generally use 2009 and its massive "one-time" spending as the new baseline to compare the rest of his administration.

I don't think it's OK. Objectively speaking do you think Obama is/was a bad president?

[DIL22]

Why are you making claims I never said? I stated simple Facts. If Obama's failures constantly need to be blamed on everyone & everything else, then why's he even President?

You implied it otherwise it would have no bearing on this conversation so why would you mention it?

Most people don't need to place "blame" for his "failures" because he's a fine president. He's not great, but he will be remembered as being a good president. It's only gun-toting lunatics like yourself that need to constantly place blame.

He's been faced with a lot of challenges, but he has made the correct decision the majority of the time. Most economists agree the economic stimulus was a good strategy and had it been a republican the was forced to implement it you would think it was a good strategy as well.

[unicornsRreal]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americ...nt_Act_of_2009

^^ this one?

Also, i came across this deficit chart

[img]http://i.imgur.com/O7F1pkp.jpg[img]


What do you make of it?

Add the numbers up and Obama has spent more than all presidents before him and increased the national debt to levels which may never be paid off.

I don't see in Obama's term any surpluses and there was no war to pay for.

Where did all the money go?

At least the republicans had a reason, not saying it was a great reason, but at least they have one.

[nutsy54]

Objectively speaking do you think Obama is/was a bad president?

I think he's been a horrible President, for a wide range of reasons. Just for starters with his campaign lies and failed polices...

- Promised to end the Iraq War in 16 months. Finally removed all troops after 35 months, when negotiations to keep them longer failed.

- Told us of his great success creating a stable Iraq. Told us ISIS was an irrelevant JV team. Oops, and now we're back in Iraq with several thousand troops, fighting ISIS there and across the Middle East.

- Signed his first Executive Order to prevent the hiring of lobbyists into senior government positions. Waived that order a few dozen times so he could hire lobbyists into senior government positions.

- Promised a policy of "fiscal responsibility". Tripled the annual deficit from previous levels, increased Federal spending by 30%, and has signed $7+ Trillion of new debt into law since taking office.

- As a Senator, properly declared that Bush couldn't attack Iran without Congressional authorization. As President, ignored the War Powers Resolution, and attacked Libya without Congressional authorization. Stated he could do the same for Syria.

- Rammed an $800 Billion spending bill through Congress during his first month, with the intent of keeping Unemployment below 8% (and expected to have Unemployment down to 5% by 2013). Unemployment was above 8.3% through Aug 2012, and above 9% for 2 1/2 years.

- Told us in 2009 that his policies would ensure a 2012 deficit of $557 Billion. The 2012 deficit was $1,087 Billion.

- Blames everything on Republicans. Even though Democrats controlled the House & Senate during his first two years in office, and passed any bill he told them to.

- Believes that it's Constitutional for the Federal Government to dictate that every American must purchase a specified commercial product. Which the Supreme Court upheld as yet another massive new tax.

- Endlessly attacked and opposed the "Bush tax cuts". Until he continued and expanded them years after they would have expired.

- Promised to close Gitmo in a year. Still promising to close Gitmo, 6+ years later.

- Promised to use public campaign financing. Turned himself into a liar after the 2008 nomination was locked up, proceeded to run a $750,000,000 campaign with private donations.

- Stated that he was against a mandate to purchase health insurance. Signed a massive "health care" bill into law, centered on a mandate for every American to purchase health insurance.

- Clearly and firmly stated his religious conviction that marriage is between a man & women. Until he needed to pander for more votes, six months before the election.

- Promised to end domestic surveillance of Americans. Radically expanded the program, while keeping it a secret from his supporters.

- Told us he'd restore America's position and respect in the world. So far, two countries have told him to f*ck off when we tried to get a fugitive from espionage charges returned to the US. The "Russia reset" has been an abysmal failure.

- Told us he wouldn't sign "Obamacare" legislation unless it was deficit neutral. We now know it will cost $1.3 Trillion over the next decade.

- And the now-infamous: "If you like your health insurance, you can keep it", along with the lie that household insurance costs would drop by $2,500 per year.

[PriestAndrettii]

While I'm no fan of Obama, unemployment has nearly entirely bounced back to pre-recession rates.


Don't know what sensationalist media outlet you are pulling your stats from brah.

Lol at brahs who support candidates from either of the major parties.

This!!!

You all should know that the president has very limited power. Its the big corporations who can pay congressmen off. Its all about money. Always has been and all ways will be.

[nutsy54]

You implied it otherwise it would have no bearing on this conversation so why would you mention it?

Most people don't need to place "blame" for his "failures" because he's a fine president. He's not great, but he will be remembered as being a good president. It's only gun-toting lunatics like yourself that need to constantly place blame.

He's been faced with a lot of challenges, but he has made the correct decision the majority of the time. Most economists agree the economic stimulus was a good strategy and had it been a republican the was forced to implement it you would think it was a good strategy as well.

When all else fails, resort to personal insults... Then make up completely false claims on my behalf. I opposed the Bush stimulus, I opposed the Bush bailouts, I opposed exactly the same under Obama.

Take your lies and personal attacks somewhere else.

[freekid2002]

Add the numbers up and Obama has spent more than all presidents before him and increased the national debt to levels which may never be paid off.

I don't see in Obama's term any surpluses and there was no war to pay for.

Where did all the money go?

At least the republicans had a reason, not saying it was a great reason, but at least they have one.

I don't understand. It's almost like misc is allergic to history. Has Obama spent more than any other president in U.S. history? Yes. That is a fact, but that also holds true for every president since Herbert Hoover. In the 2009 fiscal year, last of George W. Bush’s presidency, federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Were you upset about about that?

At least the republicans had a reason, not saying it was a great reason, but at least they have one.

I literally can not wait till you tell me what the reason was.

[DIL22]

When all else fails, resort to personal insults... Then make up completely false claims on my behalf. I opposed the Bush stimulus, I opposed the Bush bailouts, I opposed exactly the same under Obama.

Take your lies and personal attacks somewhere else.

So you would have the economy remain stagnant for decades? I don't see how you can oppose something that has proven to be effective.

[ven33]

As opposed to who paisa?

A racist nutcase celebrity in Donald Trump that wants to build a wall to keep Mexicans and Rosie O'donell out?

Get outta here. Vote for Bernie, free college!

Age 27. In other words you want to spend your hard earned money on free scholarships for kids to go to college not because they want to learn but because they want to drink heavily and slay?

No thanks jeff

[nutsy54]

In the 2009 fiscal year, last of George W. Bush’s presidency, federal spending rose by 17.9% from $2.98 trillion to $3.52 trillion. Were you upset about about that?

Do you even realize all that spending was passed by a Democrat-controlled Congress, and the final omnibus legislation (along with the Stimulus) was signed by Barack Obama?

So you would have the economy remain stagnant for decades?

Is there a reason you keep making up lies and pretending they're my position? How about stop hiding behind personal attacks & false claims, and instead directly & solely address Barack Obama, in a thread that's solely about him...

I don't see how you can oppose something that has proven to be effective.

I don't see how you can claim something was "proven effective" when it came nowhere near delivering its promised results.

[PriestAndrettii]

People always talk about the "worst president."

Ask your self this...Has your life really changed since Bush to Obama? Mine sure has not. Im doing the same chit; School, party, drinking, and working to pay for it all. Dont matter who the president is. Deficit, wars, recessions, presidential policies are completely out of your hands. Your just along for the ride.

Ultimately your quality of life is solely on your back. Focus on you and forget about "who is the worst" because the best or the worst president is not going to do chit for you.

[Sinan09400]

**** PEGIDA <3 ****


Obviously. You love a group that was most likely founded by a Hitler loving neo-Nazi, why would anyone think you'd be racist.

No actually I'm half turk and my name is turkish. But that doesnt mean that I shouldnt love the country I'm belong to and support organisations that support german values

[LieutenantGains]

Republica butthurt knows no limits.

[Jaroctor]

When all else fails, resort to personal insults... Then make up completely false claims on my behalf. I opposed the Bush stimulus, I opposed the Bush bailouts, I opposed exactly the same under Obama.

Take your lies and personal attacks somewhere else.

Just curious with regards to Obama Care, it costing money doesn't mean it generates a deficit? What am I missing here? Of course it will cost money the point being is that those costs are hopefully offset.

I also wonder what you see in the idea that perhaps people getting the help they need are better able to contribute to society and boost the economy in a direct way that probably ins't measurable in terms of straight dollars? It's not as if Obamacare was just money wasted, you can't even see why it might be useful for those in need, which is sad and a clear condition of America right now.

[Jrd86]

he shouldve stopped the wars in iraq etc, waste of money.

at the same time all that military spending keeps the american economy moving...

you guys are fuked in general. don't forget what kind of economic deep anal penetration the last right-wing government enacted on the US of A

The US economy is $18 trillion, partner. Our military spending is like $500-$600 billion...i wouldnt say it keeps our economy going. Sure it contributes to economic growth by providing jobs. But military spending in the US is less than 5% of our gdp.

I dont like Bush. He wasnt a great president for sure. But hard to say Gore or Kerry would have been much better. Also both the senate and congress were controlled by democrats during G.W.s second term. So we didnt have a true right-winged government.

I will say this about Obama. No president has shown more bad decision making than him on foreign policy. Nor have we had a president try to unilaterally circumvent the judicial process with illegal executive orders like we have with obama. Oh and race relations have actually gotten worse under him with him sticking his nose into racially charged incidents. But hey trayvon martin coulda been his son cause he looked like B.O. or somthing. Glad he said that. Realky wondered about that myself...

[MinisterOfLust]

Nusty54, is schooling you now

[poppycock101]

**** PEGIDA <3 ****


Obviously. You love a group that was most likely founded by a Hitler loving neo-Nazi, why would anyone think you'd be racist.

98% percent of blacks voted obama in 2008, 96% 2012

but you're right, everybody is racist