Summary on Olive Leaf extract

[TMac26]

Excellent read as usual Syn.


So can this be added to a product that does not contain it?


And my recommendation: astragalus

[OregonBBinc]

Based on the dose they used, doses greater than 50 mg should definitely do the trick. If you have a normal thyroid, it would work with your T3 production, but that's only if you don't have any pathological thyroid condition

im assuming thats 50mg oleuropein. ive got one thats standardized to 18% (38.7mg), with 215mg OLE. i take it with norco and some other goodies. your writeup references 1000mg or OLE being none toxic at around my weight.

so my question is, there a dose response curve to this, i know you said 50mg+ but is there any reason to stop there, or any basis to assume its not worth taking 3-5x the dose of what i have?

[Synapsin]

So can this be added to a product that does not contain it?


And my recommendation: astragalus

What do you mean? And noted

im assuming thats 50mg oleuropein. ive got one thats standardized to 18% (38.7mg), with 215mg OLE. i take it with norco and some other goodies. your writeup references 1000mg or OLE being none toxic at around my weight.

so my question is, there a dose response curve to this, i know you said 50mg+ but is there any reason to stop there, or any basis to assume its not worth taking 3-5x the dose of what i have?

That dose should be enough to influence thyroid production. It is actually less than 50 mg but I went higher just to be safe. It is definitely a dose response curve, but as with everything, eventually there is no further benefit. If you notice in the chart, while T3 does keep increasing, eventually TSH levels off. Regarding toxicity, you could definitely take much more than 1000 mg, I was just stating the highest dose I saw in humans and it showed no adverse effects

[TMac26]

Like say, I'm using a thermogenic or non stim product that does not contain Olive Leaf Extract.



Could I buy it separately and just dose it with the thermo?

[RVAPump]

OP is a.......

[kbayne]

Like say, I'm using a thermogenic or non stim product that does not contain Olive Leaf Extract.



Could I buy it separately and just dose it with the thermo?

I don't see why not. Be sure to find a good extract of OLE.

[TMac26]

I don't see why not. Be sure to find a good extract of OLE.

Yea that is what I was wondering. What is a good % and what not.

[kbayne]

Yea that is what I was wondering. What is a good % and what not.

Extracted for oleuropein and/or hydroxytyorsol.

As far as %, depends if it is one or two combined extracts.

A dose of roughly 200mg would be plenty and a good start.

[TMac26]

Awesome. Much appreciated.

[RunningTall]

Olive leaf extract Crew. I found it really helped my cold last winter. Is the Olympian Labs one here on BB.com quality? I've used that and AOR's in the past.

[OregonBBinc]

What do you mean? And noted



That dose should be enough to influence thyroid production. It is actually less than 50 mg but I went higher just to be safe. It is definitely a dose response curve, but as with everything, eventually there is no further benefit. If you notice in the chart, while T3 does keep increasing, eventually TSH levels off. Regarding toxicity, you could definitely take much more than 1000 mg, I was just stating the highest dose I saw in humans and it showed no adverse effects

noted. sounds like ill stick to 2 pills.


2 subject ideas id like to hear more about:



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[robert5891]

Great write up Syn!

For the next topic, can you write about the new stim inGoldstar's new pre workout Triple X? The new stim is 2-aminoisoheptane (2AM).

[powercage]

nice

[macwad]

I'd like a write-up on epi.
Its popularity is quite high in other forums, and it's appearing in more and more supps.

[BigPoppaPump84]

Any suggestions on a specific brand?

[TommyTuffGuy]

Check my sig, been there for years and years.

Check out Swanson's Olive Leaf Extracts.

[VO2Maxima]

Any suggestions on a specific brand?

Off the top of my head:
Stimmed: Alphamine, Diablo, Thermo Rev
Non-stim (or at least non-caffeine and yohimbine...includes synephrine): Shift

Shift is 200mg, and while Alphamine is a proprietary formula, PES does not fairy dust our products. I am not sure on the dosages of Diablo and Thermo Rev, and that's something you'd have to ask ANS and Neon.

[TMac26]

Great write up Syn!

For the next topic, can you write about the new stim inGoldstar's new pre workout Triple X? The new stim is 2-aminoisoheptane (2AM).

Excellent suggestion

[aaronuconn]

I still want to see an Agmatine write up.

[ajvitan]

I still want to see an Agmatine write up.

Would like a Syn write up on Agmatine and Berberine like tmac mentioned. I've been supplementing 500mg of agmatine with 300mg ksm66 before bed haven't had
better sleep in years.

[kbayne]

Would like a Syn write up on Agmatine and Berberine like tmac mentioned. I've been supplementing 500mg of agmatine with 300mg ksm66 before bed haven't had
better sleep in years.

Have you done either agmatine or ksm66 solo pre bed? Just curious.

Recently, I was getting in around 2 grams of Agmatine and started to notice some GI distress, dropped to 1 gram, and good. I like my doses pre-carb meals.

I will say, KSM-66 prior to bed is really nice though. Throw in some L-Dopa 98%.

[MCEDILLO]

IMO too similar to yohimbe to write about since not much different (it would be like a paragraph, lol)

Are Rauwolscine extracts compliant or nah?

[Mxxz]

Kaempferol or Jiaogulan

[aaronuconn]

Would like a Syn write up on Agmatine and Berberine like tmac mentioned. I've been supplementing 500mg of agmatine with 300mg ksm66 before bed haven't had
better sleep in years.

Those feels of cycling off of KSM66.

[axiom15]

Any difference between the extract and olive leaf powder?

[OregonBBinc]

back on topic here:

i read that OLE inhibits the growth of the left ventricle in the heart, for enhanced athletes, heck for anyone particularly worried about a quite relevant issue, how substantial or how do you feel about the evidence even if in theory, that it would be good for this?

is it logical to perhaps say that OLE should be a STAPLE in every lifters supplement regimen not just for fat loss purposes but for ventricle/health issues or am i jumping the gun? i have a family history of heart issues, so im very interested if this is something i should be recommending for people.

[aaronuconn]

Syn, what are your thoughts on Olive Leaf Extract and fat gain mitigation? Could be excellent for those eating in a surplus.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20335636

Also, if supplementing with OLE, do you have a preferred % Oleuropein? Most on the market seem to be 750mg OLE standardized for 20% Oleuropein or 500mg OLE standardized for 25% Oleuropein.

Also, should we be looking for standardized tyrosol/hydroxytyrosol content?

[Synapsin]

Bump for an oldie.

[sohaildelta007]

I have started having Olive leaf extract for about a week. It made me sleepy and gave me constant headache however I felt the thermogenic effect and slight fat loss around tummy. Its too early to establish the fact so I will continue for a month and see the changes.😊