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    Thumbs down Subway removes ham and bacon from nearly 200 stores and offers halal meat only

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...alal-meat.html

    Fast food giant Subway has removed ham and bacon from almost 200 outlets, and switched to halal meat alternatives in an attempt to please its Muslim customers.
    It has confirmed turkey ham and turkey rashers will be used instead in 185 of its stores, where all the meat will now be prepared according to halal rules.
    The chain, which has around 1,500 outlets across the UK, explained its decision by saying it had to balance animal welfare concerns with 'the views of religious communities'.


    Traditional halal slaughter sees animals have their throats slit before bleeding to death. But Subway stressed that the meat served in its sandwiches would come from animals that have been stunned first, a practice that aims to reduce any suffering.
    In Arabic the word halal means 'permitted' or 'lawful' and defines anything that is allowed or lawful according to the Qur'an.
    It is often used to indicate food - particularly meat - has been prepared in accordance with Muslim principles and techniques.


    Muslims are forbidden from eating any non-halal food and meat from pigs and Subway said customers can identify those stores selling halal food by the special 'All meats are Halal' sign, which must be displayed in participating branches.
    In the halal-only branches ham and bacon has been substituted for turkey ham and rashers.
    Many animal charities condemn halal slaughter as being cruel to animals.
    Traditionally in halal abattoirs the throats of the animals are cut while they are fully conscious - an act many campaigners say is inhumane and needlessly cruel.


    In non-halal abattoirs, livestock are stunned before killing to prevent any unnecessary suffering.
    Some halal butchers also practise pre-stunning, though it is not permitted by some Islamic scholars.
    In Britain, killing an animal without prior stunning is illegal, but the law gives special exemption to Muslim and Jewish meat producers on the grounds of religion.
    There are thought to be around 12 abattoirs dedicated to unstunned slaughter in the UK, while hundreds practise stunned halal slaughter.
    A Subway spokeswoman told MailOnline all halal meat served in the participating branches is from animals who were stunned prior to slaughter.
    She said: 'The growing popularity of the Subway chain with the diverse multicultural population across the UK and Ireland means we have to balance the values of many religious communities with the overall aim of improving the health and welfare standards of animals.
    'We put a programme into place in 2007 to ensure that the population demographic is taken into account when new store openings are considered in order that we meet consumer demand in each location.

    'All our suppliers comply with EU animal welfare legislation as a minimum and we require suppliers of halal products to adopt the stunning of animals prior to their slaughter.
    'All halal meats are certified by the appropriate halal authorities.
    'All halal Subway stores have numerous signs stating that they serve halal food.
    'These are situated on the menu panels, nutritional information and in the front window of the store.'
    Animal campaigning charity PETA urged people to opt for a vegetarian diet to ensure they have the best interests of animals at heart.
    A spokesman said: 'At the best of times, meat is a product of a bloody and violent industry with no respect for other living beings who value their lives in the same way that we do and experience the same pain and terror that Subways' customers would if they were killed for a sandwich.
    'Most religions, including Islam, preach kindness to animals, but words are one thing and practice another.
    'As the Dalai Lama said, "My religion is kindness". And a diet that expresses kindness, is open to all religions and truly respects animal rights is a vegan one.
    'Subway-goers, no matter what their religion, can eat with a clear conscience by opting for the veggie patty, the veggie delight or, heaven forbid, a salad.'
    Speaking about the general issue of halal slaughter, an RSPCA spokeswoman added: 'Scientific research has clearly shown that slaughter of an animal without stunning can cause unnecessary suffering, and the RSPCA is opposed to the slaughter of any animal without first making it insensible to pain and distress.
    'At present, the only legal exemptions to stunning during slaughter exist for kosher and halal methods of slaughter, however, it is important to differentiate between religious and non-stun slaughter as around 90 per cent of all halal in the UK receives a stun before slaughter.
    'Our concern has nothing to do with the expression of religious belief but with the practice of killing by throat cutting without pre-stunning.
    'We believe that meat produced from animals stunned or not stunned before slaughter should be clearly labelled to allow consumer choice, and continue to press for changes in the law that would improve the welfare of all farm animals at the time of slaughter.'
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    But Subway stressed that the meat served in its sandwiches would come from animals that have been stunned first, a practice that aims to reduce any suffering.

    what? That means per definition that it isn't halal right? It's nothing new though a lot of these chains and restaurants are doing halal meat only to be PC. New York Pizza does the same for example. It's pretty hypocritical cause literally none of these stores even give a fuk about kosher food.
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    Originally Posted by Sakeoe View Post
    But Subway stressed that the meat served in its sandwiches would come from animals that have been stunned first, a practice that aims to reduce any suffering.

    what? That means per definition that it isn't halal right? It's nothing new though a lot of these chains and restaurants are doing halal meat only to be PC. New York Pizza does the same for example. It's pretty hypocritical cause literally none of these stores even give a fuk about kosher food.
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    LMAO **** subway..

    Have ANY of you ever had an Arab chicken sub? Or chicken, beef, sausage, lamb, or shrimp shawarma???


    lmao.. Muslim brahs and sisters.. **** subway srsly, that chit is gross quality.
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    subway is **** anyway, but this angers me nonetheless. extra ham was one thing that made it bearable
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    Great step! can't wait till Muslims become the majority and shariah law controls the UK!
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    Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    LMAO **** subway..

    Have ANY of you ever had an Arab chicken sub? Or chicken, beef, sausage, lamb, or shrimp shawarma???


    lmao.. Muslim brahs and sisters.. **** subway srsly, that chit is gross quality.
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    Halal is not a 100% defined term. Fully fledged halal also means its organic, not industrialized and sold in communities and not large scale. Thats good.
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    Originally Posted by ProjectWheyhem View Post
    strooooong.

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    Great step! can't wait till Muslims become the majority and shariah law controls the UK!
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    so the animals are now being stunned before being killed... doesn't really make any difference to anyone except Muslims, which would only increase sales for subway. whats the problem?
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    How does this even work? You're telling me Muslims can't eat from a store that also has non-Halal meat? Why can't Subway just offer the Halal meat (Turkey ham, for example) as an alternative option, obviously separated from the rest? The fkn non halal meat is going to poison it all and send 'em to hell?

    Just lol. If I were a Brit I'd be boycotting the fuk out of Subway.
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    Originally Posted by TheFornicator1 View Post
    How does this even work? You're telling me Muslims can't eat from a store that also has non-Halal meat? Why can't Subway just offer the Halal meat (Turkey ham, for example) as an alternative option, obviously separated from the rest? The fkn non halal meat is going to poison it all and send 'em to hell?

    Just lol. If I were a Brit I'd be boycotting the fuk out of Subway.
    Probably to do with some kind of cross contamination issue. At my work, we had to get another BBQ for the same reason.
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    Originally Posted by illriginalized View Post
    LMAO **** subway..

    Have ANY of you ever had an Arab chicken sub? Or chicken, beef, sausage, lamb, or shrimp shawarma???


    lmao.. Muslim brahs and sisters.. **** subway srsly, that chit is gross quality.
    Why are you eating sandwiches when you can be eating rice and beans, you disappoint me.

    I don't see an issue if this is in a Muslim majority area. I know in Brooklyn Dunking Donuts don't serve pork on Jewish majority neighborhoods.
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    I don't see an issue if this is in a Muslim majority area.
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    Originally Posted by Godfrd824 View Post
    Why are you eating sandwiches when you can be eating rice and beans, you disappoint me.

    I don't see an issue if this is in a Muslim majority area. I know in Brooklyn Dunking Donuts don't serve pork on Jewish majority neighborhoods.
    Ever since moving out to Michigan.. lol no exaggeration, I eat Arab food about 5 days out of the week (their food is actually very similar to Latin food, including a dish called Shakshuka, it's almost identical to the Mexican dish, "Juevos Rancheros")

    Subway prices are a bit higher (with the quality of their meats) vs these Middle Eastern sandwich restaurants. And no where near as delicious.

    There's even Labanese restaurants that serve filet mignon sandwiches and it's like $7 lmao

    I mean legit filet mignon.

    Apparently Arabs don't decipher which cut of beef is better than the other.. they treat all meat equally
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    Makes sense actually. Jared and Muhammed(piitb) have something in common, after all.
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    Just imagine when they're 20% of the population...then 30% and vote in blocks.
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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    Makes sense actually. Jared and Muhammed(piitb) have something in common, after all.
    came in to post this... they went from one **** spokesmen to another.
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    Originally Posted by John L View Post
    Makes sense actually. Jared and Muhammed(piitb) have something in common, after all.
    Lmfao came to post this but you have the better word choice.


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    Without Jared, Subway will fall apart.

    Btw, if these neighborhoods are predominantly Muslim, then it isn't a bad idea at all.
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    Islam prophet was a ****, Subway prophet is a ****...

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    Originally Posted by Alchem View Post
    Great step! can't wait till Muslims become the majority and shariah law controls the UK!
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    Why didn't you honestly say UK in headline? Who gives a fuk? Your need to bash Muslims is an all-consuming psychosis. If the article isn't in America, say it in the headline, idiot.
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