Why beginner routines are necessary

[CWGame]

Okay
Btw any idea why when I Bench press I feel like my right chest is working more and I feel it a lot more than my left chest ???

Also its not possible to feel or work in any way triceps during back workouts right?? Like bent over barbell rows. Somehow the lats working feel rly similar to triceps working. So thats why im asking. Like there is no way I would work triceps no matter what I did. And I rly focus on form.

Shrugs recording soon probably today

You could be benching unevenly. No biceps will be worked during a back workout not triceps. triceps are a push movement.

[Lumicko]

You could be benching unevenly. No biceps will be worked during a back workout not triceps. triceps are a push movement.

Yeah maybe but im now focusing really slowly on the form at bench. Also I noticed that I had the bar a bit to the right so last 2-3 workouts im focusing also on the bar position to be in middle but still same effect. Mby it needs time to catch up?? Dont know. Maybe I will record myself If it doesnt stop.

Well I can be happy then because I barely feel anything in biceps I think nothing at all or only a bit but I dont notice it ( I think its not even pumped a bit ). Then it means im really using the back ( lats ) anddd reallyyy hard :P
Im so happy now!!! Im doing bent over barbell rows with 25kg but now I know that my form is correct and im not using momentum in any way ( I used before my body was moving ). You know what is funny? I saw a guy at gym well built nice muscles and all but he was doing the rows not rly correctly he was "cheating" like moving his body up and down quite a lot using momentum weird that he didnt realise it.
So there is no way to work with triceps ( making reaaaly sure ) Not even the "inside side ( close to body )" check this pic what I mean ( the yellow trail ) http://i.imgur.com/6BzCSTb.jpg

I was also trying again close grip bench press... Cant rly figure it out

[CWGame]

Yeah maybe but im now focusing really slowly on the form at bench. Also I noticed that I had the bar a bit to the right so last 2-3 workouts im focusing also on the bar position to be in middle but still same effect. Mby it needs time to catch up?? Dont know. Maybe I will record myself If it doesnt stop.

Well I can be happy then because I barely feel anything in biceps I think nothing at all or only a bit but I dont notice it ( I think its not even pumped a bit ). Then it means im really using the back ( lats ) anddd reallyyy hard :P
Im so happy now!!! Im doing bent over barbell rows with 25kg but now I know that my form is correct and im not using momentum in any way ( I used before my body was moving ). You know what is funny? I saw a guy at gym well built nice muscles and all but he was doing the rows not rly correctly he was "cheating" like moving his body up and down quite a lot using momentum weird that he didnt realise it.
So there is no way to work with triceps ( making reaaaly sure ) Not even the "inside side ( close to body )" check this pic what I mean ( the yellow trail ) http://i.imgur.com/6BzCSTb.jpg

I was also trying again close grip bench press... Cant rly figure it out

Cheating isn't really the worst thing especially if it's only a little, and he also could of been using enough weight where his frame couldn't stay in the same position and the weight starts pulling you down. Also a lot of people in commercial gyms don't really have a good knowledge of lifting.

[Lumicko]

Cheating isn't really the worst thing especially if it's only a little, and he also could of been using enough weight where his frame couldn't stay in the same position and the weight starts pulling you down. Also a lot of people in commercial gyms don't really have a good knowledge of lifting.

Yes you are right and his form is rly good so he most likely knows what is he doing. Maybe he was like last set or something I cant know
Okay well I guess the form breaking is fine when U want to go like beyond failure a bit like U wouldnot be able to do anymore reps with proper form so U break form for 2-3 more reps.

So about the bent over rows its like u said no way to feel triceps ? like on the pic. Damn so I feel it like hell a lot!! Good

I was trying today bench press and again I feel the right side quite more than the left side or sometimes its even like only right side is working weird

Soon I will post 3-4 recordings of diff. exercises to make sure im doing them properly :P ( bench press ofc )

[CWGame]

Yes you are right and his form is rly good so he most likely knows what is he doing. Maybe he was like last set or something I cant know
Okay well I guess the form breaking is fine when U want to go like beyond failure a bit like U wouldnot be able to do anymore reps with proper form so U break form for 2-3 more reps.

So about the bent over rows its like u said no way to feel triceps ? like on the pic. Damn so I feel it like hell a lot!! Good

I was trying today bench press and again I feel the right side quite more than the left side or sometimes its even like only right side is working weird

Soon I will post 3-4 recordings of diff. exercises to make sure im doing them properly :P ( bench press ofc )

You could feel them since they would be tensed up but no on a pull movement you won't be working triceps.

Yeah I'm not sure about the bench thing may just be an imbalance or poor form.

[Lumicko]

You could feel them since they would be tensed up but no on a pull movement you won't be working triceps.

Yeah I'm not sure about the bench thing may just be an imbalance or poor form.

Okay
Well I feel soreness on chest ( not strong but still ) and on both sides ( left + right ). So maybe Im doing all good but I just feel it in weird way. Anyway im gonna record myself

EDIT
What u think about lean bulking?? I just watched this from scott https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYjHbuXtkC4
I probably dirt bulked a bit... gained 10kg in 3 months. Approx 1kg a week ( sometimes I stalled with weight ). I think thats too much?? Should I aim for 0,5kg a week??

Also look up this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw_ISOudzYk
Since im still full body ICF 5x5 but I do curls for biceps. U think I should switch it up like scott says?? It makes totally sense and he also explains why its important to switch things up ( exerices or the angle of them..) damn I love his videos

[CWGame]

Okay
Well I feel soreness on chest ( not strong but still ) and on both sides ( left + right ). So maybe Im doing all good but I just feel it in weird way. Anyway im gonna record myself

EDIT
What u think about lean bulking?? I just watched this from scott https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYjHbuXtkC4
I probably dirt bulked a bit... gained 10kg in 3 months. Approx 1kg a week ( sometimes I stalled with weight ). I think thats too much?? Should I aim for 0,5kg a week??

Also look up this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw_ISOudzYk
Since im still full body ICF 5x5 but I do curls for biceps. U think I should switch it up like scott says?? It makes totally sense and he also explains why its important to switch things up ( exerices or the angle of them..) damn I love his videos

Yeah I think for long term bulks .3-.5kgs a week is a good amount.

I honestly don't think it matters too much of variation of bicep exercise until you are actually trying to build a certain portion of it up. You can if you want.

[Lumicko]

Yeah I think for long term bulks .3-.5kgs a week is a good amount.

I honestly don't think it matters too much of variation of bicep exercise until you are actually trying to build a certain portion of it up. You can if you want.

Well im not saying that I want bulking to take long but according to the video it isnt really good to bulk too much fat. So +-1kg a week is too much right? Might contain too much fat or so.

Well I meant not only biceps but also other exercises but I guess that comes when I will be at split or something like that. To vary the exercises shock the muscles as he said that the muscles get used to the same movement.

Damn sorry for taking so long with the videos and im quite spamming this topic alrdy

[CWGame]

Well im not saying that I want bulking to take long but according to the video it isnt really good to bulk too much fat. So +-1kg a week is too much right? Might contain too much fat or so.

Well I meant not only biceps but also other exercises but I guess that comes when I will be at split or something like that. To vary the exercises shock the muscles as he said that the muscles get used to the same movement.

Damn sorry for taking so long with the videos and im quite spamming this topic alrdy

No you're fine man I was on vacation that's why my reply took so long yeah I think even for a medium sized bulk 1kg is a little too much per week.

[CWGame]

I am a beginner. I thought many times why i should keep these routines. You are done a great favor me. Your post make me understand the need of it.

No problem.

[superkaryman]

That's why I did WSFSB part 3, so I can have some variety but also gain strength and speed

[kamedan]

Thanks bro, appreciate it.

[CWGame]

Thanks bro, appreciate it.

No problem

[CWGame]

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Stop spamming my thread, and to make it even worse it looks like a 12 year old wrote this.

[cjfinn29]

Stupid question but this thread says the routine can build muscle but no hypertrophy work. So what exactly is the difference? (btw i am familar with sacroplasmic growth and myfibrailar growth)

[VDelmonte]

Wow

[CWGame]

Stupid question but this thread says the routine can build muscle but no hypertrophy work. So what exactly is the difference? (btw i am familar with sacroplasmic growth and myfibrailar growth)

Muscle growth is built by total volume and caloric intake. Yes but you build more muscle with hypertrophy work, but you still do build muscle with lower reps.

[Jroost5o]

I've been doing 5 day split for 3 months now and seen incredible gains. Bench is now 180 when it was 130.. 1RM

[Athl3te]

Good info

[CWGame]

I've been doing 5 day split for 3 months now and seen incredible gains. Bench is now 180 when it was 130.. 1RM

Of course any routine can work for growing its just comes down to efficency. I go over the reasons of why as a GENERALIZATION a beginner routine will be better for most.

Good info

Thanks

[RagingWresteler]

they never made us do this in my weight training class...

[CWGame]

they never made us do this in my weight training class...

That's probably because your weight training teacher is retarded like the rest of them.

[SimonBugge]

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[Bennarz]

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[FrostbiteFitnes]

idk. I started off on a bro split and still do. it has worked for me greatly! but everyones different train to your bodys best reactions

[CWGame]

idk. I started off on a bro split and still do. it has worked for me greatly! but everyones different train to your bodys best reactions

It's all about efficiency. Of course this isn't going to work 100% of the time. Also if you have a good programmer then that will work for you better too. But for the vast majority of beginners this should be the route.

[LisaG25]

1. So you don't injure yourself
2. You have the correct form.
3. Once you have the correct form you can increase the weight and move ahead.
4. ALWAYS BE POSITIVE MOTIVATED AND MOST OF ALL BE INSPIRED BY THE FANTASTIC BB.COM FAMILY EVEYONE IN HERE IS THE BEST. A FANTASTIC POSTIVE INSPIRATION TO ME.
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Lisa.

[Criz98]

Major key

[CWGame]

Major key

Yep.