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08-05-2015, 10:05 AM #31
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08-05-2015, 11:51 AM #32
Rocco's pick
13. Hulk Hogan vs. The Giant – Monster Truck Sumo Madness!!!!
Here's a video recapping build up (RIP Dusty)
(don't worry, we aren't done with this feud and you'll see some other stuff touched on during this recap)
Before squaring off in the main event of Halloween Havoc 1995, Hulk Hogan and The Giant (now the Big Show) were booked to have a monster truck battle on the roof of a building. Yes, that wasn't a long typo. This battle was a sumo match in huge, gigantic custom-made monster trucks.
Pre-truck battle, a blonde mulleted man explains the rules, as Hogan continually glances over at the Giant like “what's he saying, dude? You understanding this, brother?” Giant, of course, can't wait to get into his much better looking Dungeon of Doom themed monster truck.
Before going much further, let's just look at the expenses for this crap
-probably craning the trucks to the roof of Cobo Hall across the street from Joe Louis Arena
-the $$$ for the gigantic custom monster trucks
-renting a helicopter for those aerial shots
-massive pyro
-Hogan's match fee and 25% PPV cut
As for the monster truck battle? It's the most obviously scripted, worked, choreographed battle of all time. You've got to watch it at least once to experience the sheer wtf lols of this 'battle' as the two trucks are welded together.
This battles goes on and on for over 5 minutes, as the announcers repeatedly inform us, “this is exciting!”
Hogan, of course, has to go over, brother. After the “match,” Giant, being a sore loser, would go after Hogan and start fighting him. In the melee, Hogan would knock the Giant off the roof of Cobo Hall! Big Show waves his arms like Arn Anderson would to try and stop a sunset flip pin, as he plummets off the building-- seemingly into either the Detroit River of Lake Michigan or into the parking lot. Meanwhile, Hogan hams it up with a Darth Vader esque “NOOOOOOO!” and runs from the scene of the crime, calling out for help. Afterwards on commentary, Bischoff says that either outcome would result in the same outcome. What? Either way, the Giant is dead apparently. Giant, of course, would no sell his apparent murder and would be back within an hour to wrestle Hogan in the PPV's main event. I guess he must've hit the parking lot because he's completely dry as a he walks out, though not bruised, battered, or scared at all.
link: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xlz...big-show_sport
WWE Network brahs link: http://network.wwe.com/video/v31660335 (skip to 1:46:55)
Dickstroke's reaction:
Dude, this was my dream match. Many times growing up I'd fall asleep dreaming about matches like this only contested between the all time greats. Imagine Steamboat/Flair, Benoit/Angle, HBK/Bret or Undertaker/Brock Lesnar contested in monster truck clashes!!!!!!!!!!!
13. Judy Bagwell WCW Tag Team Champion
Buff Bagwell's mother became an onscreen character starting I believe when Buff returned in a wheelchair.
Eventually, she and her son have a falling out, and when Rick Steiner is left partnerless to defend the tag team straps against Buff and Scott Steiner, Rick revealed that his partner filling in for Kaos would be Buff Bagwell's 60 year old mother!
There even was a segment where Judy, alongside her partner Rick, cuts a promo on Buff saying she whooped his butt when he was a child, and she can easily spank him again. They even get attacked by Scott Steiner and Buff, where IIRC Rick beats up Scott, and Judy evades attack from Buff then slaps him out of the ring sending him and Scott into retreat mode.
The match never takes place to my knowledge as Judy either had health issues which WCW managment called convenient once they realized how dumb this angle was, OR, it could been because Kevin Nash approached managment and convinced them that this whole thing was absurd and the tag titles were being disgraced!
For more hilariously awfulness involved this woman, please refer to the Judy Bagwell on a pole match between Buff and Kanyon:
Seriously nothing against Judy but she was no Mae Young, or Moolah FFS![/QUOTE]
Rocco's thoughts
Man, Judy was terrible. Supposedly, she had an ego problem too. Nice booty though, would hit it too.BLM (Brock Lesnar Matters)
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08-13-2015, 08:28 AM #33
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08-13-2015, 08:29 AM #34
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08-13-2015, 09:05 AM #35
I loved the monster truck match as a kid.
Was on holidays in France with a friend and a family, when we watched it.
IT finally gave us a reason to ram two model cars into each other, while playing there were fighting. It added a whole new dimension to the stuff every little boy was doing with his cars anyways.
We also believed Big Show had really died.
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08-13-2015, 01:53 PM #36
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08-13-2015, 04:30 PM #37
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FWIW I think the Oz gimmick was inspired because Turner got the rights to the film and someone at WCW thought it would be a great cross-promotion.
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08-13-2015, 04:41 PM #38
Yes, that's possible. I do know that Turner had some rights to the movie---home video and airing it on TV. But I don't know if he had enough ownership and property rights to go quite as far as they were initially going with the gimmick and thus scaled back? Or maybe Dusty quickly figured out it sucked and just changed it up. Or the budget was abit too big? Some combination? Maybe somebody can query Meltzer or Nash and find out.
edit: scanning the wiki it sounds....complicated...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyri...ates#1939_filmLast edited by RoccoTanno123; 08-13-2015 at 04:47 PM.
Deathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168458963
"You can't beat mah prices, but you can beat mah meat." - Dusty Rhodes
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08-13-2015, 05:28 PM #39
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08-15-2015, 08:45 AM #40
Deathstroke's pick
12. Abdullah The Butcher Gets Barbequed Before (I think anyway) Opening His Very Own BBQ Restaurant
As hard as this match was to follow, and is to re-watch, one thing that stands out now is the star-studden list of names thrown into this trainwreck.
Sting, Steiners, Foley, Abby, Vader, the great El Gigante.
Halloween Havoc, historically some of my favorite matches have happened there, it was an annual WCW PPV I'd anticipate...this though, is not the best example of what I loved about the event.
Chambers of Horror...just shoot me now. A horror/halloween inspired match but as it starts out, the Chair of Torture, the strategy there is to avoid the chair. Weapons, everything but the kitchen sink, but a chainsaw is legal too, but but but, the brawling and in ring action is so confused, the fans don't know what to make of this and in fact, the wrestlers seem to not know what to make of it and just stop trying after awhile.
Finally the torture is over (or so it seems) when Cactus inadvertantly electrocutes his buddy Abby thinking he got Rick Steiner instead.
I think my Friend-O summed this thing up best already.
My thoughts
What else is there to say? Go check this event out, if you haven't and want a laugh. We've both got this listed for a reason.
Rocco's pick
12. Ric Flair in the mental hospital
Ah, mental illness and WCW. DS already touched on WCW's handling topic with the Cactus Jack in Cleveland debacle. This one was much more loony bin explicit with the angle itself, though less concussion/head injury related in it's set up.
I could've sworn this was a Russo idea, given the blatant movie inspirations, references, and ripoffs ranging from One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest to 2001: A Space Odyssey. But nope. This was pre-Russo in 1999. 1999 was the year WCW went from being able to hang in the Monday Night Wars to completely falling apart. Although DS has already listed this one and covered it great, I'll do what I can to liven it up for anybody who this is new to.
If memory serves, Flair had wrestled the presidency of WCW away from Bischoff (storyline). But he was progressively becoming nuttier and nuttier, even in the lead-up the match where he beat Bischoff for control of WCW. This period is where a lot of Ric Flair stripping down to his boxers and elbow dropping gifs during interviews come from. He'd mistakenly refer to himself as the President of the United States once or twice too. I'm hazy here, but I think Roddy Piper showed up saying that Flair needed to step down. Then after some match where Kevin Nash powerbombed Ric Flair, then Flair got taken off and committed.
I believe, in storyline, some Florida Superior Court Judge had declared Ric Flair mentally incompetent to run WCW, and ordered him committed to a florida ward? Piper had organized this by getting Flair's son David Flair to make this request of the judge? But Piper wasn't put in charge. He would face Flair at the next big PPV, but the referee Charles Robinson was named president while Flair was gone. Though, maybe, the interim president changed to Robinson, and Piper tried to bully his way in? Regardless, Piper's plan didn't totally work because he arrested, mostly since, in shoot, he was the modern day Undertaker and Brock and didn't do many dates.
(if you're interested in this part of the story. There's a good recap at the start of this video from a nitro: )
There were a lot of twists, turns, and sideshows related to this whole angle. As you can tell, the whole set-up and most of the execution was a real ****show and awful. But this is Ric Flair, people. Ambrose might be able to make booby-trapped exploding briefcases and a prolonged beatdown of a mankin Rollins doll entertaining. And Sandow could elevate stupid Miz viagra commerical segments. But the Nature Boy? LOL, he's in a class of his own for turning chicken**** into chickensalad—here, saving the dreadfully awful into the hilariously awful. He's booking random matches on the fly, changing his mind and booking new ones, wrestling other inmnates in the mental asylum, stylin' and profilin' with the nurses, and orchestarting impromptu dance offs and line dancing
This angle easily can be seen as corny, stupid, and demeaning to the stature of Ric Flair. But, I'll be damned if Ric Flair isn't still able to bring it and cut an entertaining promo within all this hamstrung overwriting. He's even awesome in the segments after he leaves the hospital when Arn Anderson bails him out. Yes, Arn bailed him out...even though that's not how being mentally commited would work at all. I think on the Nitro he came back, it was in NC, and Flair put out some bounty that kept changing on Kevin Nash, and then, of course, got diamond cuttered by the newly heel DDP in the main event because Ric Flair always had to look like a loser in Carolinas under Bischoff. But he did get in this other lolzy moment on the show first:
But, I'm getting sidetracked because what else can I say about this? Just read some cliffs and realize you need that deep dive on this one:
-Ric Flair hears the 2001 theme, presumably because 2001: a space odyssey comes on, and he thinks it's nitro time and he's in the hotel and it's Nitro time!
-Flair calls from a pay phone and books on the fly
-Ric sells for an inflatable ball (LOL)
-Ric shows a busty, muscled nurse how to amateur wrestle
-has a dance off with a black inmate telling him that Ric is going to show him some rhythm and get some soul
-he rants and does Flair things
Needless to say, GO WATCH IT!
Here's an embed:
Deathstroke's thoughts
Well this one definately belongs here. Hell it is one of mine too, I think you do a better job of providing commentary for it. Flair was often referred to as "Norman Bates" by other wrestlers in promos, so they were really trying to push the story that he was losing it and was crazy. Not in a cool way either like Brian Pillman with his Loose Cannon gimmick. But my God, did I ever want to f*ck Asya up the ass REALLY HARD!!!!Deathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168458963
"You can't beat mah prices, but you can beat mah meat." - Dusty Rhodes
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08-15-2015, 08:54 AM #41
Deathstroke's pick
11. David Arquette Becomes the World Heavweight Champion
In 2000, to promote the movie "Ready To Rumble", a movie that I myself am a fan of, David Arquette was brought in and written into WCW storyline.
Now WCW, once dominant in the Monday Night Ratings War, were on the decline heavily by now. The once hot NWO angle had gone stale as molded bread. Good matches were still had, but as far as storyline and feud wise, everything was pretty much in complete and utter disarray.
Perhaps this move was the final nail in their own coffin. If Nash thought the tag titles were being disgraced with Judy Bagwell, I could not imagine his thoughts on this.
A tag team match pitted DDP and David against Jeff Jarrett and Eric Bischoff. The man who scored the pinfall on the winning team would win the World title.
Of course we all know now, David Arquette got the pin. And the title.
You almost feel for the dude, the dude was a big fan of pro wrestling both WCW AND WWF, and loved Hulk Hogan, and in fact may still maintain his long standing friendship with that racist biggot!
The outcome itself is, well, it's completely ridiculous. The way this whole travesty was executed and all to promote a comedy movie, which again I did enjoy at the time. I guarantee although DDP expressed the joy and the elation, that there was backstage frustrated at a whole new level over the decision to put the belt on him.
David Arquette, the man, the super wrestling fan and the person...he's an uber cool cat.
Him as a character and title holder is what I took issue with, but oh well.
Let's enjoy something on a lighter note:
Biff Naked covers Twisted Sister in this, "We're Not Gonna Take It" aka the official song of the WCW produced movie, "Ready To Rumble"!
Granted it's the only Biff Naked song I know, but it's a darn good tune IMO.
Rocco's thoughts
This was more awful than hilariously awful imo. I didn't see this until years later, but saw the blurb in USA today at the time. And I had even less interest in watching WCW after I read a scrawny C list actor won the world title?! His wife was a bigger celebrity than he was!! Even Arquette knew this was bad idea, but Russo was gon Russo. TV ratings and PPV buys immediately plummeted. Plus, Arquette won the title in a tag match (Arquette/DDP vs. Bischoff/Jarrett), and his tag partner was the world champ. Kimberly was the guest ref. But she ref bumped from a kiss, and a new ref counted the pin. Neither he or Bischoff was legal but they counted the pin, even though Jeff was pinning DDP at the same time.BLM (Brock Lesnar Matters)
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08-15-2015, 08:55 AM #42
Rocco's pick
11. Mr. Wonderful Paul Orndorff gets motivated by Gary Spivey
Ah 1995, one of the worst years in wrestling, but a year with plenty of hilarious bad WCW. As opposed to just the awful Diesel title over in the WWF. This is another one already listed but it deserves it's notoriety.
Orndorff was upset that he got jobbed out by Randy Savage on WCW Worldwide (that's the Saturday C show...maybe B show around then). He'd gone from main-eventing with the WWF against Hulk Hogan in the 80s and setting house show records to being a Saturday main event jobber. This vignette aired on the Fall Brawl PPV in September of 1995. Orndorff was so down-on-his-luck and disillusioned that he began to doubt the veracity of his moniker/nickname Mr. Wonderful. But never fear, Paul, a random D-list celebrity appearance on the PPV was near!
Deathstroke did a great job when he listed this earlier, so I'll emphasize some of what leaps out:
The clear plug for this guy's schtick right away and the strange acceptance of this scene. Look at the opening dialogue!:
Orndorff seemingly starstruck says “gary spivey? Of the psychic companions network!? What are you doing here?”
Spivey: “I got a vision. I knew you weren't okay.”
Orndorff, without a hint of irony: “You did!? How?” (not “GTFO before I call the cops and/or beat you up. Know your role, no outsiders in the locker room!”)
Then Spivey answers, “I got a vision! Psychics know.”
So, let's get this straight, this psychic dude with a brillo pad hat from 2a infomericals is plugging his psychic companions network on a WCW PPV? And his disco ball glittering charisma was supposed to give orndorff the rub via a pep talk? I was very young but I don't think this guy was any bigger than Miss Cleo. And why exactly is a psychic a motivational speaker? Since he can tell your future, he's an inspirational personality? This guy is inspiring!?
And his pep talk largely involves saying mantras like: "You are Mr. Wonderful. You are so very wonderful. And you know it, too," and getting Orndorff to look into the mirror and learn to love himself again.
After a minute or two of this, Mr. Wonderful agreed with Spivey that he was still wonderful after all. If this scene was from a gay porn, Orndorff would've been nominated for one of those porn acting awards, except for another take. Even by 90s porno standards, Orndorff's unintentional comedy bad acting and line delivery was off the charts.
WWE Network brahs link: http://network.wwe.com/video/v31585679 (skip to: 46:30)
For those wondering about the fallout, Spivey's pep talk worked so well on the 46 year old Orndorff that Orndorff retired months later. However, before retiring, he still got this amazing theme song from the identity crisis angle!
Deathstroke's thoughts
At the time I loved the guy, and wanted to call his hotline but I spent too much of my parents money on WCW and WWF's hotlines instead. But I was diggin the Spivey character a great deal, and I think he really gave Orndorff a major confidence boost, too bad it didn't last. I think bringing Spivey in as his full time manager would've been the ticket to long term success however.BLM (Brock Lesnar Matters)
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09-10-2015, 09:12 AM #43
Deathstroke's pick
10. The Sumo Monster Truck Match
Ah the cartoonish years of WCW where Bischoff was throwing around a billionaires money like buckets of water because, because he could. Kayfabe, suspension of disbelief were thrown out the window, in exchange for continous gimmickry. No better example of this than the Sumo Monster Truck match from Halloween Havoc 95. Well, there is ONE Better example but that's coming later on, stay tuned!
In a match contested between two monster trucks, Hogan behind one, Big Show controlling the other! Object of the match is, push the other out the circle the match is contested in.
The Hulkster wins! Fight continues outside the trucks with Hogan knocking that young up and comer off the f*cking roof and he is thought to be dead. It is a miracle he is still alive stealing shows in WWE 20 years later!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xdd...big-show_sport
Luckily their match that was to happen later on that night, did take place and Giant was able to enter the ring without suffering as much as a scratch, he landed in the water below.
Rocco's reaction
Big Show may have lost the match, but his truck styled on Hogan's in the aesthetics warDeathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168458963
"You can't beat mah prices, but you can beat mah meat." - Dusty Rhodes
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09-10-2015, 09:14 AM #44
My pick
10. “That's the Wall Up There, Brother! Hey Wall” - Hogan's super-vision
During WCW's annual spring break Nitro in 2000, the clear highlight was Hogan vs. The Wall. The show was a transition show before Russo and Bischoff returned and took over creative control for WCW. The Wall is the character that the late Jerry Tuite wrestled under while in WCW (as well as Sgt. AWOL. This guy was billed at 6'10” and as a monster. He was the body guard to the re-packaged German wrestler Alex Wright now billed as Berlyn, who looked like a Rammstein reject.
Naturally that made The Wall a perfect cartoon villian for the Hulkster, brother.
Mean Gene starts by interviewing Hulk Hogan in the ring. Midway through Hogan ranting and raving about everyone from Vampiro to Sid Vicious, a beat begins to echo through the crowd. Hogan, Gene, and everyone are looking around. Then, the beat turns into more of a drum roll and the TV cuts to a small figure in a cut off tank-topped white dress shirt, sporting sun glasses appeared spotlighted on top of a building pointing out.
The cameras were zoomed all the way to reveal this mysterious dude, and then pulled back all the way behind the ring as this guy was making a chokeslam gesture on top of the roof a hotel, appearing at least a half mile away. Meanwhile, in the ring, Mean Gene exclaims, “up there!” to direct everyone's attention to the spotlight on top of an allegedly 15 story hotel roof.
I should point out that even zoomed in, the audience at home probably had to rely on the TV announcers to tell them this was the Wall. But Hogan saw him, no problem, right after Mean Gene told him were to look. Without missing a beat, Hogan immediately recognizes the figure and screams out. “That's the Wall, brother! Hey Wall! Hogan takes Wall's uplifted arm as a challenge, and calls him out for a main event match later on. Hogan's callout, by the way, is completely Cena before Cena as he screams, “If you want some come get some!”
I guess the Wall accepted because he did this in response:
I think the idea for whoever was in charge at the time was to make the wall look like a scary monster. But nobody in the live crowd, except for Hogan and his super-binocular vision, could tell who the guy was because he was so far away, unless they brought their telescopes along to the show.
The whole thing was hugely over the top and made a near 7-footer look small. But it's so bad, it's good. WCW was the drizzles at this time, and this whole thing was a funny call-back to all those Hogan vs. cartoonish big men feuds we got in the 80s and 90s. Naturally, just like every Nitro main event it seemed, there wasn't a decisive finish to the main event match (though the Wall did kick out of the leg drop, I think, and chokeslam Hogan thru a table afterwards) and the feud ended up being dropped.
Another longer clip with more of Hogan's promo:
http://www.wwe.com/videos/hulk-hogan...-27-2-26113437
Deathstroke's reaction
Damn, I'd feel safe talking sh*t too if I was face to face with a guy an entire city away! That made me laugh so hard then and switch back to my Raw!Deathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168458963
"You can't beat mah prices, but you can beat mah meat." - Dusty Rhodes
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09-11-2015, 10:42 AM #45
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09-11-2015, 10:59 AM #46
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09-11-2015, 11:09 AM #47
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09-11-2015, 11:38 AM #48
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09-12-2015, 04:26 PM #49
Rocco's pick
9. Fall Brawl 1995 Hype Package
I'm not to sure where to start with this one? I guess by way of feud background, the Taskmaster Kevin Sullivan was pissed off that his kayfabe brother, Dave Sullivan, was a Hulkamaniac. So the Taskmaster went into a prolonged feud with Hogan, first with his three faces of fear faction, and then later the infamous Dungeon of Doom. The Dungeon of Doom basically was a cheesy, cartoonish stable of monsters out to rid the world of Hulkamania, aka job to the Hulkster. They came together after Sullivan started hearing “the master” Curtis Iakea voice telling him to come to the Dungeon, and something about rare white benghal tigers. They'll be more on this later, don't worry.
For this war games match, originally, it was supposed to be Hogan, Savage, Sting and Vader vs. 4 members of the Dungeon (Leslie...now the Zodiac, Sullivan, Meng, and Kamala). Vader had been in the Dungeon, but turned face and left the Dungeon in the summer of 1995 (not before constantly having matches with Hogan and losing...a lot). However, Vader's contract had run out and he was splitting for the WWE as well as nursuing a torn rotator cuff during this time, I think. Right before this PPV is also where he had his famous backyard fight with Mr. Wonderful Paul Orndorff (who was a wrestle but also basically a road/talent agent at the time) and came out on the losing end. Consequently, WCW had to make a last minute switch, and Lex Luger, the surprise WWF to WCW jumper from the very first Monday Night Nitro on TNT, was added to the team.
OK, now, why did I pick this one? A few reasons
-it recaps some of the hilarious disaster that was Hogan vs, the Dungeon until now
-Big Show running over Hogan's Harley in his monster truck (same one from the Sumo match they'd have later)
-Sullivan plays with dead flowers
-the voiceover narrator goes HAM! An he's got that classic movie announcer rip off voice
-the so bad and cringe it's hilarious voiceover from Sullivan
-it's produced, edited, and directed by people who clearly wish they were doing movies with Scorsese or Hitchcock rather than wrestling promos (see the freeze frames, voiceovers, distorted lens effects, moody lighting, zooms, tracking shots, etc.)
-kevin sullivan smashes a hulk hogan action figure with a shovel while sitting cross-legged
-sullivan says he'll “bury” Hogan
-hogan sticking to his guns that Big Show is the son of the Andre the Giant, and that Hogan “felt Andre” when Big Show attacked him. I guess that must've been when Big Show threw his shirt at Hogan at Bash at the Beach 1995...was that supposed to be the shirt Andre wore in the Princess Bride?
Deathstroke's response
Nice pick. I never would have thought to do this one, now it is etched in stone for me. Stone = my skull. Thanks alot Cocko!BLM (Brock Lesnar Matters)
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09-12-2015, 04:26 PM #50
Deathstroke's pick
9. Who The F*ck Is THE BLACK SCORPION?!?!
1980's, NWA was filled with great matches and promos that developed future Hall of Famers. All Japan Pro Wrestling, which featured the best pure wrestling action of all time even borrowed their style and formula.
Fast forward early 90's, a change in management and the product. Crazy gimmicks and silly storylines, like The Black Scorpion. Sting the John Cena of WCW at the time, was WCW World Heavyweight Champion, all was looking up for the Stinger who was on top until one day a strange vignette appeared of this mysterious figure trying to scare the living sh*t out of Sting. He'd use dark magic tricks, scary music, and messengers coming out in the black mask and outfit to throw Sting off.
Weekly, these vignettes and antics would appear dropping clues as to who he may be. This sparked a huge buzz of who this mystery man could be from Sting's past to get inside of Sting's head and make him live in fear.
Finally The stage was set, The Black Scorpion vs. Sting for the WCW World Title, if Black Scorpion lost, he'd have to unmask and reveal his true identity to the world.
Starrcade 1990, it was discovered after the man behind the magic curtain, or black mash was none other than.....WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Naitch, Nature Boy Ric Flair WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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The character and segments at the time did scare me somewhat, I was 10. It did hold my interest in the product, but now that I'm no longer 10, it is just a hilarious and awful part of that once great company's history! Some of the segments still make me laugh, Jim Ross interviewing Sting then telling him to turn around, "STING STING LOOK LOOK THERE'S THE BLACK SCORPION THERE'S THE BLACK SCORPION!"
Rocco's reaction
Great pick. It will reappear. Ole voice overs and space ships!!!BLM (Brock Lesnar Matters)
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09-12-2015, 05:55 PM #51
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09-16-2015, 08:14 AM #52
Deathstroke's pick
8. Are You Kidding? Here Comes The Yeti?!
Jesus Christ this was f*cking stupid. They actually did that?
Getting back to Halloween Havoc 95, where Hoagie and The Big Show clashed in the battle of the monster trucks earlier on and I talked about earlier on in this list.
Well Hogan won, the Giant was butthurt therefore a brawl ensued and Hogan inadvertantly sent Show off the tall rooftop! No way does he survive that fall, correct? Well we all know now that he survived, if you want proof look no further than last week's Monday Night Raw where he opposed Sting in 2015!
Yes Sting vs. Big Show....in 2015, last Monday!
(^ Thanks Rocco!)
The match was on it's way to being a 5 star classic when Jimmy Hart turns heel on Hogan. Savage comes down to aid Hogan, but Luger comes down to turn heel as well, or align with Jimmy. Just as you thought things could not get anymore epic, it gets TOO epic.
THE YETI!
Tony Schiavone is in pure awe at the size of the Yeeeetaaaaaaay as he calls him as he steps over the top ropes and he and The Giant make a sex sandwich out of Hulk Hogan seemingly draining the life force out of the Hulkster.
I'm with Matthews and the D-O-Double G!
He's a Yeti yet as pointed out, he's dressed like a mummy, Giant survives a big fall to his death off of Cobo hall, Jimmy betrays Hogan as does Luger and this new would be monster heel unwraps the toilet paper from himself then drops out of sight onto to be picked up by a cult leader known as Raven and get destroyed by Goldberg.
Rocco's reaction!
An all-timer. It should be higher imo! The Yeti must've just needed to dethaw and be unwrapped before we'd find out that he was a giant Scorpion from mortal kombat ripoff from the himalyasBLM (Brock Lesnar Matters)
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09-16-2015, 08:16 AM #53
Rocco's pick
8. The Black Scorpion's sorcery of lolzy stupidity
WCW brass needed a new fresh opponent for Sting in 1990. They'd just done a terrible program with Sid, and the top brass believed Flair was too old at the time. (Yup, keep that in mind.) Accordingly, WCW needed a new guy for their Hogan/Warrior new face of the 90s. Booker Ole Anderson had the perfect foe: the Black Scorpion. Ole would even voice the masked mystery man through a garbled voicebox.
And his plan for getting the Scorpion over as a credible, threatening challenger wasn't through squash matches and wrestling but through the scorpion's use of dark sorcercy. As Deathstroke capably pointed out above, this included things like tossing people into cages and turning them into giant cats. This was amazingly wtf entertainment and wtf are they thinking...this is supposed to be a strong match build LOLZ?!
Oh, I also left out the part where the guy playing the Black Scorpion or one of his messengers (this usually just meant a swerve where wrestlers thought they were fighting the Scorpion only to get swerved)...yeah that monster heel? I can't recall a single time the Scorpion or one of his messengers actually won a wrestling match, including leading into the big show. Booking 101 right there. Lots of the messengers looked like rejected mad max gimps too.
To make things even better, for the big steel cage match pay off at Starrcade, the Scorpion's entrance involved multiple masked Scorpions coming out, until the real black scorpion came out from down from the ceiling in big spaceship. Yes, the Scorpion was not only a dark, evil wizard but he apparently travelled intergalactically to menace and dethrone WCW's painted surfer hero.
And no, your eyes don't deceive you. The real evil dark magic wizard apparently showed up to matches dressed like so
yup, as a remixed member of the Executioners who must've raided Liberace's disco wardrobe right before boarding his space shuttle.
After making an entrance so long that even the most devoted Taker mark's patience would've worn out, the Black Scorpion went on to wrestle a very familiar match with Sting. And after losing he was unmasked to be Ric Flair. Yeah...Ole had four months to figure things out and he couldn't do it. The earlier Scorpion's were clearly not Ric Flair. And in the Scorpion's many promos he'd constantly remark how Sting would not recognize him, even if he did unmask him, despite hinting that they had a shared past and dropping cryptic clues. And just to make the continuity even more abysmal, Flair's shorter haircut was clearly different than the hair we'd seen the scorpion sporting during an earlier promo segment at that Starrcade show. Ole was shortly fired after this to no one's surprise!
Deathstroke's reaction
Undeniable any of it. Great pick and insight by our good friend (Rocco). Should be on anyone's top 10 IMHO.BLM (Brock Lesnar Matters)
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09-16-2015, 08:19 AM #54
This list was on hold, I lost a banishment bet where I was unable to post or relay any messages and where I did not post or relay any messages some claimed I did. If I had Rocco carry on by posting my picks and reactions, that'd been a violation of the bet loss.
Getting it rolling!BLM (Brock Lesnar Matters)
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09-16-2015, 10:25 AM #55
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09-16-2015, 09:20 PM #56
great entry. I missed this live. I'd defend it not making my top 20, but it's definitely quite funny. I feel bad for anybody who attempts a WWE version of this. Trying to generate this list has only made it clear to me that even doing up to 40 of these would've been really, really tough.
Deathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168458963
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09-28-2015, 01:01 PM #57
Deathstroke's pick
7. King of The Road Match aka The Night Dustin Runnels and Barry Dorso HIT THE ROAD Jack!
And by hit the road I'm talkin' about both men being futured endeavored as a result. The match takes place at a PPV entitled, "Uncensored", though, in a PPV that was to feature many crazy stipulation matches that made it seem like they would be taking their product to the extreme, how exciting right? Nevermind that WCW's strict no blood policy was still in effect by WCW managment. The match itself, was interesting, Bobby Heenan provides some LOL's on commentary.
What makes the match concept interesting, is it is not contested inside the ring, but instead in the back of a tractor trailer where they essential are brawling all over it as the vehicle is driven down a long road. The winner would be the man who makes it to the front to honk the horn.
However for Dustin (future Goldust) and Barry (aka Blacktop Bully at the time, and formerly was Smash of Demolition and then Repo-Man) they believe this match is not interesting enough, so they decide together that they're going to bend the rule, but WCW managment sees them as outright breaking it.
Uncensored? Yeah Uncensored, MY ASS!
Rocco's reaction
Great pick. This was pure WCW imo. Ridiculous production expenses. ???????? profit? The whole thing is a hilarious wtf spectacle.BLM (Brock Lesnar Matters)
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09-28-2015, 01:04 PM #58
Rocco's pick
7. The Masters of The Powerbombs Crash The Party!
The Lost in Cleveland Cactus Jack skit may have bombed, but WCW remained undeterred. Beach Blast needed a bad cinematic mini-movie hype job for a huge tag match between the masters of the power bomb, sid and vader, vs. sting and bulldog, aka the more maj allied powers ajace.
Alright, so let's review how this hypes the match. On an island, Bulldog and Sting hype their babyface credentials by playing volleyball with orphans. Where exactly? “somewhere in the gulf of mexico.” Sid and Vader show up to crash the party in an amphibian landing craft along with their managers Colonel Parker and Harley Race. Parker has stayed in his....I don't know....suit, cigar, and top hat Tenessee Lee attire. While Race is dressed more for the occasion, maybe to keep the producers from throwing a fit about his atrocious line readings. Anyway, the heels demand that the faces take their retirement home tickets or suffer the consequences and have a match.
The scene plays out like a bad spaghetti western showdown/face off scene . The faces, Bully and Stinger, deliberate for a bit, but then naturally turn their offer. (Be sure to check out the lolzy laugh reaction faces of the heels, especially Sid, in the wwe video linked, around 2:28 in...a goldmine by itself.)But meanwhile, the heels plotted for an eye-patched midget to plant a bomb on Sting and Davey Boy's boat.
The eyepatched Hornswaglle precursor was named Cheatem. Yes, cheat-em. Just to make sure, we all knew this jabroni was a bad guy, eyepatch and goatee aside, he stealthily made his way to the boat via snorkling shark fin, equipped with his own Jaws ripoff music. Oh yeah, but not before menacing some little girls. According to Bryan Alvarez, this skit ended up costing $80,000 to film, which was over twice Beach Blast's live gate. The whole segment is so campy and cheesy that it's ridiculously amazing. I forgot to mention that Sid Vicious is sporting flip flops!!
The faces being faces; Davey Boy and Stinger are playing volleyball against some kids, after turning down the heels, while most of this scene unfolds. Did I say kids, sorry, I think they were orphaned kids, just so we all remembered Sting and Davey were great guys as opposed to you know...murder co-conspirators like Vader and Sid.
Anyway, One of the little stingers or bulldogs notices cheatem trying to assassinate our heroes, and so he notifies Bulldog. But OMG! Sting has already headed to the boat. Davey Boy hurries to the boat. And apparently either quantum leaps or jumps off a pier with his dive and tackles/flying clotheslines Sting off the boat and into the water before it explodes. Nope, I didn't make any of that up. The cuts in this whole sequence have to be seen to be believed. The uncertainty of if the faces didn't die is played to maximum corny camp with close up kid actor shots, and the pair of Sting and Davey emerging arms held high from the water, declaring their surival. I guess this is a step up from the Apollo and Rocky beach hug out in Rocky III.
vid link: http://www.wwe.com/videos/the-master...beach-26118334
BTW folks, I've been frantically searching for the whole mini-movie promo, but haven't been able to find it recently despite seeing it months ago. Whoever finds it and shares it, gets reps from me for at least the rest of the year. Hell, I'll even go life if you find a high quality version because there's gotta be one out there
Deathstroke reacts
Great pick as well, and beautifully written review by Rocco. The mini-movie was poorly written however.BLM (Brock Lesnar Matters)
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09-28-2015, 03:22 PM #59
To follow up, here's a video of Mr. Wonderful's nitro entrance with his new theme after Spivey motivated him. Both Deathstroke and I had that moment listed, and this followup was great. It's too bad Orndorff's injuries were catching up with him.
The December 11th Nitro where Orndorff got spike piledrivered by the horsemen on concrete after a match with Disco Inferno also merits a mention as Orndorff brought a new bigger hand mirror.Deathstroke and I list our most hilariously awful WCW moments (lots of gifs & vids; expect load time):
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=168458963
"You can't beat mah prices, but you can beat mah meat." - Dusty Rhodes
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10-01-2015, 11:35 PM #60
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