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    Anyone interested in amino acid test for Myprotein Impact Whey?

    This Dutch website has done several tests for amino acid profiles of protein powders. Very interesting results imo.

    Their tests reveal that one of the most popular sellers in the Netherlands has been spiking their whey with alanine and glycine: http://supplementlabtest.com/tests/a...kelijke-test-0

    Next test they're going to do is for Myprotein. They've raised 240 and need 350 euros.

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    Im from the uk so very interested in this! 350 euros is all it costs to test whey? i expected it to be higher tbh.
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    Originally Posted by SubWooferCooker View Post
    Im from the uk so very interested in this! 350 euros is all it costs to test whey? i expected it to be higher tbh.
    Yeah they've also got an English page. I donated 5 euros yesterday.

    Whey Protein tests

    Who are we?
    New tests of supplements are emerging all the time stating that the content does not match what is on the label. It also may be that certain substances are present in the supplement but are not listed, it can be a big problem if you're a controlled athlete. There are more and more scandals that emerge about protein products that contain much less than claimed. A new phenomenon is also amino spiking, where cheap amino acids are added such as glycine to a protein product to artificially increase the protein content. These are illegal practices that are used purely for profit.

    We are a group of athletes who where very shocked by this news. In addition, we have seen that there is a high degree of censorship that prevails around these tests. Certain companies will do anything to stop this and will try to sweep the test results under the carpet. This made us decide to create a website with the aim of transparency to the athletes. We want to collect this information on supplementlabtest.com where tests and discussions not just disappear. Also we want to organize our own tests to further find out wich product are as good as they say.

    For suggestions or comments, please contact us via the contact page.

    What is Amino Spiking?
    Amino Spiking is the use of nitrogen containing substances like creatine, collagen, and so on. All products that are composed of amino acids artificially raise the protein measurement. Loose amino acids can also be added. Beef protein for example does not exists as a product and is just collagen, you can see this by the high Glycine content. On this page you can see below the article a comparison of collagen (left) and Beef (vlees) next to it. You can check this on the label of the 'Beef Protein' products. Also, they sometimes will add creatine and loose amino acids to correct the amino acid ratio. The trick is to add cheaper substances to make more profit (of course), but without being caught by a simple nitrogen test. To bad for them we are getting to know the amino acid analysis.

    You can read more about Amino Spiking in these links.

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    At first we test the protein content and amino acid ratio. Carbohydrates + sugars are only necessary when the protein content is much to low and/or amino spiking is detected. Total costs incl. paypal, purchase, and shipping is 350 €.

    The amino acid analysis by the lab we use for our tests (Nutricontrol) is done on 15 amino acids to exclude Amino Spiking. Tryptophan, Proline and Tyrosine are not tested. Why not 18? This is because it will cost +200 € more and is not necessary considering the amino acids not tested are more expensive to add than whey itself. So companies will not use these to spike the whey. Costs for measuring 15 amino acids are 285 € incl. paypal costs. For protein by Kjeldahl 40 € and carbohydrates + sugars 115 €. Costs for purchase and dispatch of the products vary between 25-45 € depending on the amount.

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    Tests Results
    Below at the bottom of the page you can see the difference in protein % from all the independent tested whey shakes. In the links you can find the lab tests of each product.

    All products tested are the flavor vanilla so we can have a correct comparison between them and a good view on how much protein we can expect with a middle flavor. Banana has a higher protein content, and chocolate 4-6% lower. Tropical fruit has the lowest protein content. All other flavors are between chocolate and vanilla.

    We buy all the products in advance to minimize possible adjustment off the products by the sellers for the tests. All products are tested by the Kjeldahl method on nitrogen content and calculated to raw protein. This is what you get, not dry matter -> this is without the 4-5% moisture that is present in whey.

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    I've actually been using myProtein for quite a while now (and recommending them) so I'd be interested. Gonna bookmark this thread to stay on it!
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    Never used MyProtein although it is not popular here in the states. Kind of curious on it though.
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    Never used MyProtein although it is not popular here in the states. Kind of curious on it though.
    I think in Europe it's currently the cheapest, especially with their current 25% off. They have promotions like that all the time.

    I'm very curious as I buy all my stuff there.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    I think in Europe it's currently the cheapest, especially with their current 25% off. They have promotions like that all the time.

    I'm very curious as I buy all my stuff there.
    I would be shocked if they were spiked only due to the fact that their IW has only 18-20 grams of protein per serving.
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    Yeah but their scoops are 25g, as opposed to the normal 30/33g scoops of most other brands.

    I think Labdoor says that their protein quantity is closer to 18g instead of 20g. They are pretty highly rated on Labdoor.
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    Originally Posted by jindesu View Post
    They are pretty highly rated on Labdoor.
    That's true.

    For those that did not know, Labdoor, as far as I know, only tests for total protein. They didn't test for individual amino acids. Their test is not able to see if they have used amino spiking.
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    Originally Posted by Big.Jazayrli View Post
    I've actually been using myProtein for quite a while now (and recommending them) so I'd be interested. Gonna bookmark this thread to stay on it!
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    It makes you think how they can regularly sell 10lb for $50-60.
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    I'll be incredibly surprised if they're found to be spiking.

    They have a lot of issues (customer service as numero uno) but their product quality is, to my knowledge, not questionable
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    I would be shocked if they were spiked only due to the fact that their IW has only 18-20 grams of protein per serving.
    Protein per serving has nothing to do with anything. What matters is the actual protein content/percentage. If claims are true (these day I don't trust anyone in this Industry), IW contains 82% protein. So how's this "only" 18-20 grams of protein?
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    Originally Posted by BULLED View Post
    Protein per serving has nothing to do with anything. What matters is the actual protein content/percentage. If claims are true (these day I don't trust anyone in this Industry), IW contains 82% protein. So how's this "only" 18-20 grams of protein?


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    Originally Posted by BULLED View Post
    Protein per serving has nothing to do with anything. What matters is the actual protein content/percentage. If claims are true (these day I don't trust anyone in this Industry), IW contains 82% protein. So how's this "only" 18-20 grams of protein?
    Pretty much what TMac said however I will note I didn't realize their scoop size is that small. Just not the normal size so when I see 18-20 grams it stands out to me.
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    Originally Posted by Mrpb View Post
    ...has been spiking their whey with alanine and glycine
    Are these aminos problematic also?

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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    Pretty much what TMac said however I will note I didn't realize their scoop size is that small. Just not the normal size so when I see 18-20 grams it stands out to me.
    I thought so. It has always struck me funny that some people assess a protein powder by its grams of protein "per serving", it makes no sense, I mean it depends on the serving size...
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    VERY interesting.

    But to prove purposeful amino acid spiking, they should get free form amino tests done as well.


    Way more expensive, but without that info, it could just be lower quality protein.... maybe.

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    Never used MyProtein although it is not popular here in the states. Kind of curious on it though.
    I'm currently using the cookies n cream flavor and I'm loving it so far. I can see it being more popular in the near future, they had some pretty awesome deals during the 4th.
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    We could always get a MyP rep to chime in however they change reps more often than Taylor Swift changes boyfriends
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    Originally Posted by OT2000 View Post
    We could always get a MyP rep to chime in however they change reps more often than Taylor Swift changes boyfriends
    'are your company spiking their products?'

    'google it!'

    (but yea, the rate at which they change their reps is staggering *ahem*)
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    Originally Posted by faipdeooiad View Post
    'are your company spiking their products?'

    'google it!'

    (but yea, the rate at which they change their reps is staggering *ahem*)
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    Sad to see you not repping anymore
    yea, i love the company and their ethos of complete ingredient transparency, but there was just some nagging issues that weren't resolved, promises reneged on and the killer was that they started doing a fresh meat range (bulk chicken breast, steaks, lamb etc.) and as i've recently turned veggie, i couldn't reconcile my stance of not eating meat with advertising that aspect of the business. (my wife's a carnivore - she's upset because of all the free steaks she won't be getting any more)
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    Originally Posted by PricePlow View Post
    VERY interesting.

    But to prove purposeful amino acid spiking, they should get free form amino tests done as well.


    Way more expensive, but without that info, it could just be lower quality protein.... maybe.

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    Wait, did I miss something? The test hasn't been run yet, correct? They're trying to raise money for it, if I'm understanding properly, and the link about the spiked protein is just another big seller in the Netherlands (but I can't read the site, so I may have missed something). So how did you come to the conclusion that MyProtein is either spiked or low quality protein?

    Originally Posted by faipdeooiad View Post
    yea, i love the company and their ethos of complete ingredient transparency, but there was just some nagging issues that weren't resolved, promises reneged on and the killer was that they started doing a fresh meat range (bulk chicken breast, steaks, lamb etc.) and as i've recently turned veggie, i couldn't reconcile my stance of not eating meat with advertising that aspect of the business. (my wife's a carnivore - she's upset because of all the free steaks she won't be getting any more)
    So you left a company that sells lamb and jammie biscuit whey? Rob is going to neg you into oblivion.
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    Originally Posted by snorkelman View Post
    Are these aminos problematic also?
    "Body & Fit" sells whey, isolate and casein with less leucine measured than claimed, how would that not be an issue?

    Why are you asking noob questions while you're not a noob?

    Originally Posted by VO2Maxima View Post
    Wait, did I miss something? The test hasn't been run yet, correct? They're trying to raise money for it, if I'm understanding properly, and the link about the spiked protein is just another big seller in the Netherlands (but I can't read the site, so I may have missed something).
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    off topic...i'm 6'0 tall....went to the netherlands...first time in my life i felt short
    I'm the same. Went to Dortmund for Oktoberfest for my stag do last year and felt so short. Bavarian women are especially tall.
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