Scorecards to not represent pose wins. At least not these scorecards that you're seeing here.
Phil earned this win. Dexter was the only one who was competitive with the package Phil has. Shawn, Wolf are huge but have glaring flaws in their physiques. Everyone knows Wolf's problems so I won't get into those, Shawn has smallish arms but the real detractor was the distended lower abdomen this year. Farther down the list I must say I'm really embarassed to see Branch in the top 6, I just don't get it. William Bonac was also amazing, should have been in the top 6 for sure from what I could tell on the video and pics so far.
Stream was good, lighting wasn't terrible, too bad Kai was banned (the people's champ.)
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09-19-2015, 10:35 PM #2582
Thank you sir, will get u on r/c
Show isn't judged on a pose by pose basis, as in 1-4th place awarded on each pose and the points tallied. It's judged on a overall impression of the physique and how everything fits in together.
I've been right since 2011 but I'll take the compliment Thank you dear
From what I've seen over the years, There was an Arnold Classic, I believe in 2008 where Dex beat Phil and I think that was the contest that set a fire under Phil's ass.
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09-19-2015, 10:36 PM #2584
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09-19-2015, 10:38 PM #2585
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09-19-2015, 10:38 PM #2586
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09-19-2015, 10:39 PM #2587
After tonight, it's clear Rhoden will never beat Phil. Wolf will never beat Phil.
After all the drama and heat, Kai will never beat Phil, either.
So the only way Phil doesn't get to 8 Sandows (and beyond), is due to injury, messing up REAL bad with his prep...OR if Ramy FINALLY nails his conditioning one of these days and shows up shredded.
That is all.
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09-19-2015, 10:40 PM #2588
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09-19-2015, 10:41 PM #2589
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Say what you want, but Heath deserved the win. Hell I don't even like him
But he won. Was he at his best 2011 version? No. But he doesn't have to be 100% to win. I thought Kai could have pushed him but that's hypothetical
All the poses from the back he wins, thickness, symmetry and just pop. BDB is his pose. No one has a better BDB
He was good though. No gut, and he kept it in
He deserved to win it.★ Cristiano Ronaldo is the GOAT crew ★
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09-19-2015, 10:41 PM #2590
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09-19-2015, 10:42 PM #2592
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09-19-2015, 10:43 PM #2595
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09-19-2015, 10:45 PM #2596
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09-19-2015, 10:47 PM #2597
Just no.
He's probably seen a lot of the competitors prior to the show and they all probably have an idea of what they're bringing to the table. Dex looked great this year. If I saw him earlier I'd probably think he'd place very well, too.
Thanks. Was just getting ready to collect these myself. Not sure anyone with even a little historical knowledge of the sport would say something like that.
Post should have read - "Phil has an amazing physique, but no one who only has a 4-pack should be Mr O...except for the greatest of all-time that is."
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Okay, I've gotta say this. I don't think Ramy deserved a top six spot in his condition. I thought Roelly did. Heck, I would have put Bonac, Branch, and Winklar ahead of Ramy. I like Ramy, but I don't think this showing warranted the placing that he received. I also thought Dallas could have easily earned a top ten spot, but I'm not sure how close he was because I haven't gone back to check the score card yet. Either way, great first showing.___________________________________________________________
from 6th to 3rd ...and on to 1st?
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09-19-2015, 10:48 PM #2598
If things continue going as they are Heath will win 10+ Olympias. Th. message is clear you don't have to be the biggest and you don't have to be best conditioned to win the O.
So as mentioned before Ramy just needs to come in around 250 -260lbs shredded and he wins. No need to come in 300 or 270 for that matter. He is the same height as Phil so 250 will do just fine. I am sure as hell coming im conditioned at 250 is a hell of a lot easier than coming in condition at 300. Will be easier for Ramy, less taxing on his body and will be exactly the look the judges are looking for.
He might get points deducted for having wider clavicles than Phil, maybe an operation to shorten those clavicles is an option??
Anyone have a list of competitors weights?
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09-19-2015, 10:49 PM #2600
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09-19-2015, 10:51 PM #2602
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What a physique. Top 5 for me
Lol at those guys earlier who said he wouldn't be in shape for Olympia★ Cristiano Ronaldo is the GOAT crew ★
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09-19-2015, 10:51 PM #2603
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09-19-2015, 10:53 PM #2604
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09-19-2015, 10:56 PM #2605
I thought he did very well. He's climbing quickly and getting more notice. I'm sure if he brings it again next year, they might reward him properly.
I had Bonac ahead of Ramy. However, I also had Winklaar and even Branch ahead of Ramy, too. Roelly did really well and I thought he got a slight snub. Branch should be easy to beat, if Ramy just showed up in respectable condition, but I think Ramy had the worst condition of anyone in the top ten, maybe even top fifteen.___________________________________________________________
from 6th to 3rd ...and on to 1st?
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09-19-2015, 10:58 PM #2606
You have to admire Ramy's size and proportions, especially when the top 10 were all lined up. That being said, I was disappointed and I really hope he can improve his conditioning, although he did look better tonight. But man he is big lol.
I think Phil deserved this one, but it still feels weird having your Mr. Olympia be the smallest of the top 5. Nothing was like Jay and Ronnie going at it for years in their prime.
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09-19-2015, 11:00 PM #2607
Another thing that is interesting is that after pre judging nobody had Phil winning. So does everyone just hate Phil or what?
Aceto had Rhoden
Nichols had Wolf
Cormier did not have Phil winning
Pakulski did not have Phil winning
Palumbo did not have Phil winning
So is there a hidden agenda against Phil because the above is concerning that nobody of 5 people had Heath winning yet the panel of 6 judges had him all winning.
Something does not add up here.
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09-19-2015, 11:00 PM #2608
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09-19-2015, 11:01 PM #2609
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09-19-2015, 11:04 PM #2610
Phil is bigger than Dex and comparably as big as Rhoden, although shorter but with a more complete back. Wolf was amazing and massive, but will forever be incomplete. His best shot for an O will require him being completely ON and the others on top being off. Ramy was massive, but incomplete and out of shape.
Phil and Dex were the only two complete guys on that stage, and Phil was just a little better.___________________________________________________________
from 6th to 3rd ...and on to 1st?
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