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    Originally Posted by AndYUKnowThis View Post
    Read my above comment. Wealth redistribution makes no sense to me.


    -I work at Walmart. The people I know have worked their for 5,10,15,20 years. Why should I get punished for those who make such a mistake? I mean what possible excuse do you have to work at such a sht place for so long? Yes trade school can be competitive, but if you're patient you're bound to get in.

    -Im black and have lived around black people. Giving them free money ain't gone do sht. I'd much rather for my people be allowed to go to school, that way they can propel themselves AND their 3-4 kids, who can also go into college, into a better life.


    Better, Cheaper Education= Better Economy

    Socialism= Bandaid fix on a repeated cycle
    walmart is a career for some people WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. how are you getting punished by people making a living wage getting off social welfare like food stamps and medicare? How is people safely spending money again bad for the econamy? how is free public college a bad thing? how is investing in education citizens a bad thing?


    if you think socialisim is just giving people money then you are part of the problem
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    Originally Posted by LaCosaNostra90 View Post
    How it works in a civilized country (Sweden, Finland for example)

    You wont be a millionaire, but you will make enough to live a great life, good social benefits, enough money to do what you want, secure life. Low crime. Good health care. What more do you want?
    Why the fuk would I work harder than 99% of people so I can not be a millionaire?
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    Originally Posted by AndYUKnowThis View Post
    Read my above comment. Wealth redistribution makes no sense to me.


    -I work at Walmart. The people I know have worked their for 5,10,15,20 years. Why should I get punished for those who make such a mistake? I mean what possible excuse do you have to work at such a sht place for so long? Yes trade school can be competitive, but if you're patient you're bound to get in.

    -Im black and have lived around black people. Giving them free money ain't gone do sht. I'd much rather for my people be allowed to go to school, that way they can propel themselves AND their 3-4 kids, who can also go into college, into a better life.


    Better, Cheaper Education= Better Economy

    Socialism= Bandaid fix on a repeated cycle
    What most socialists don't realize is that "free money" comes from the IRS who's sole goal is to manipulate the masses through (tax breaks/benefits) to feed the desires of the Federal Reserve.
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    Originally Posted by faxanadu View Post
    What most socialists don't realize is that "free money" comes from the IRS who's sole goal is to manipulate the masses through (tax breaks/benefits) to feed the desires of the Federal Reserve.
    what free money?
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    If I wanted socialism, I'd just move to Russia

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    I'm not saying I disagree with you capitalism bros, but wtf are we going to do when robots have taken over the majority of our jobs and we are jobless? I feel like socialism is inevitable.
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    Originally Posted by ftwrestler View Post
    yeah because it is great right now right? This country is in need of a political overhaul. Workers need defended. Job need created. Taxes need to be enforced and brackets need to be redone, infrastructure is crumbling, education system failing. Explain to me how LESS government is going to fix that?

    If you think the poorly educated vast majority of the this country knows what to do, then i will just move to norway.
    Apparently you don't realize that government broke everything you listed and now you think more government is going to somehow fix that.

    ...and that's not even considering the mathematical impossibility of full blown socialism being sustainable. Are you not aware it failed in Greece, most of Europe is at risk of the same, and the USA is EVEN worse?
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    Originally Posted by Desperitphaggot View Post
    I'm not saying I disagree with you capitalism bros, but wtf are we going to do when robots have taken over the majority of our jobs and we are jobless? I feel like socialism is inevitable.
    More people will be designing robots.
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    Originally Posted by ftwrestler View Post
    what free money?
    You tell me. You're the one that wants to increase the size of government with wealth that doesn't exist.
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    Originally Posted by ftwrestler View Post
    walmart is a career for some people WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT. how are you getting punished by people making a living wage getting off social welfare like food stamps and medicare? How is people safely spending money again bad for the econamy? how is free public college a bad thing? how is investing in education citizens a bad thing?


    if you think socialisim is just giving people money then you are part of the problem

    -If people are retarded enough to make a career out of Walmart while COMPLAINING EVERDAY, they deserve what they get. 1 older lady I know has finished her degree and has to pass a test, once done she has a job lined up paying $20 an hour. That's something good. Others? Waiting on retirement funds.....


    -And how do you know people safely spending? Dude Ive lived around blacks nearly my entire life, and I love my people to death, but they don't spend welfare/stamps on responsible sht. Was just at the corner store and some lady spent $20 on junk. Pizza, candy, juice, etc. I don't wanna give money away, I want them to school so they can have more for themselves, not depend on the government


    -I SUPPORT FREE EDUCATION. It's the Ultimate fix.

    -Op supports raising taxes. Raising taxes does what again?? What if taxing the rich 75% doesn't work? What if taxing the middle class 60% doesn't work?? Then what? Tax even more?? None of it just dont make sense to me.
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    Originally Posted by ProudSocialist View Post
    75% tax on the rich at least
    Pretty ridiculous. I could get behind a marginal tax rate of 50% however
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    Brahs, I love capitalism.

    Until the system collapses. Until people starve to death and die, no one is going to go back to full-blown capitalism. They're too stupid and lazy. Let these morons destroy themselves with socialist programs, and hopefully destroy themselves so completely that hard-working, intelligent people finally swoop in to pick up the pieces and re-establish order as it should be.

    Let's see these lazy socialists who expect those who work hard to hand over their wealth survive when all the hard-workers refuse to keep things going for them.

    No one is going to go to school half their life, work 60+ hours, or do anything extra to just hand their earnings over to the unambitious. The leeches will see what happens when the few that keep them alive refuse to do it anymore.
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    Originally Posted by ftwrestler View Post
    yeah because it is great right now right? This country is in need of a political overhaul. Workers need defended. Job need created. Taxes need to be enforced and brackets need to be redone, infrastructure is crumbling, education system failing. Explain to me how LESS government is going to fix that?

    If you think the poorly educated vast majority of the this country knows what to do, then i will just move to norway.
    America has been fueled with more and more socialism every year exponentially since about 1913. Taxes are at their all time highs, government spending is at their all time highs, welfare is at their all time highs; you're struggling and you want even more of this? lmao.

    Please do move to Norway if you really think they are doing better than America, you're in for a huge surprise. And this is coming from someone living there (cant wait to get out)
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    Originally Posted by faxanadu View Post
    More people will be designing robots.
    Idk bro. I'm pretty sure once society has reached that point robots will be designing robots.
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    Originally Posted by Conspiracybrah View Post
    America has been fueled with more and more socialism every year exponentially since about 1913. Taxes are at their all time highs, government spending is at their all time highs, welfare is at their all time highs; you're struggling and you want even more of this? lmao.

    Please do move to Norway if you really think they are doing better than America, you're in for a huge surprise. And this is coming from someone living there (cant wait to get out)
    there isn't "more" welfare in socialisim. Read a ****ing book bro. Taxes are at an all time high on middle and lower classes. That will be lower in socialism and higher on the higher earners.
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    Under the American System (no longer in effect), there are no income taxes.. Had Congress followed the recommendations of Henry C. Carey, there would be no national debt, and we would be consuming the things that we produce.
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    Originally Posted by LaCosaNostra90 View Post
    How it works in a civilized country (Sweden, Finland for example)

    You wont be a millionaire, but you will make enough to live a great life, good social benefits, enough money to do what you want, secure life. Low crime. Good health care. What more do you want?
    High end luxury? 10x more than the average person instead of twice as much since your value to society is worth more?

    lol @ socialists with their utter illogical nonsense trying to make life fair when the world is by nature not fair.
    Ironically it's unfair that someone who achieves far more than the average person should only be rewarded for a tiny % of their success (socialism).
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    Originally Posted by Hardlifter9 View Post
    High end luxury? 10x more than the average person instead of twice as much since your value to society is worth more?

    lol @ socialists with their utter illogical nonsense trying to make life fair when the world is by nature not fair.
    Ironically it's unfair that someone who achieves far more than the average person should only be rewarded for a tiny % of their success (socialism).

    You can have that high end luxury as long as you're employing people with good salaries and supporting the economy. Don't forget, it is because of your customers and employees you even have that high end luxury. And IMO your mindset is horrible


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    Originally Posted by ftwrestler View Post
    there isn't "more" welfare in socialisim. Read a ****ing book bro. Taxes are at an all time high on middle and lower classes. That will be lower in socialism and higher on the higher earners.
    I am pretty sure I have read more books on socialism than you ever will. Taxes are at an all time high for the 1% too. In socialism there are 100% taxes on what each individual produces as everything is owned collectively. In socialism there is no trade, there is no money. The middle or lower classes has no purchasing power in a socialist system. Read a book.
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    Originally Posted by AndYUKnowThis View Post
    -If people are retarded enough to make a career out of Walmart while COMPLAINING EVERDAY, they deserve what they get. 1 older lady I know has finished her degree and has to pass a test, once done she has a job lined up paying $20 an hour. That's something good. Others? Waiting on retirement funds.....


    -And how do you know people safely spending? Dude Ive lived around blacks nearly my entire life, and I love my people to death, but they don't spend welfare/stamps on responsible sht. Was just at the corner store and some lady spent $20 on junk. Pizza, candy, juice, etc. I don't wanna give money away, I want them to school so they can have more for themselves, not depend on the government


    -I SUPPORT FREE EDUCATION. It's the Ultimate fix.

    -Op supports raising taxes. Raising taxes does what again?? What if taxing the rich 75% doesn't work? What if taxing the middle class 60% doesn't work?? Then what? Tax even more?? None of it just dont make sense to me.
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    Socialists are lower than thieves. At least a thief has the balls to risk getting caught stealing from you. Socialists use guns, pointed by the Government to steal your money from you. Never have I seen a lower form of filth than the common socialist/leftist/democrat.
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    Originally Posted by Hardlifter9 View Post
    High end luxury? 10x more than the average person instead of twice as much since your value to society is worth more?

    lol @ socialists with their utter illogical nonsense trying to make life fair when the world is by nature not fair.
    Ironically it's unfair that someone who achieves far more than the average person should only be rewarded for a tiny % of their success (socialism).
    Its proven to be a better quality of life. Simple as. You can still "make it" but you wont be some overlord that will shut down all the gateways like here. Everyone is comfortable there. 90% of people are not comfortable here. It is that simple. And its not a welfare state, everyone contributes. By % they have more degrees per person than here (free university)
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    Originally Posted by ProudSocialist View Post
    conservatard detected. please provide evidence that shows socialism as a bad thing
    Its requires force to tax money off one peaceful individual and give it to another while taking a cut by the middle man.

    Initiation of force = bad thing.
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    America has been embracing socialistic policies and growing the federal govt exponentially over the last 100 years. You should be fuking elated about all the corruption you see today because that's the inevitable result of the excessively powerful central government that you want in your angus.

    You're a legit moron if you take politics at face value. Do you believe corporations dump fukloads of money into progressive candidates like Hillary (and Sanders if he gets the nod), and lobby for new onerous regulations, laws and subsidies because they give a chit about the polar bears and they believe every mouth that breaths deserves $15 an hour? No you fuking idiot, they're paying to play. Every law that gives more power to Washington is designed to benefit the politically connected, not help the fuking poor.

    Take the power out of Washington, restore the constitution, start reasserting state's rights and economic liberty. Things will improve when that happens.


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    Originally Posted by ProudSocialist View Post
    conservatard detected. please provide evidence that shows socialism as a bad thing






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    Originally Posted by LaCosaNostra90 View Post
    Its proven to be a better quality of life. Simple as. You can still "make it" but you wont be some overlord that will shut down all the gateways like here. Everyone is comfortable there. 90% of people are not comfortable here. It is that simple. And its not a welfare state, everyone contributes. By % they have more degrees per person than here (free university)
    You can't make it when all you get is something that's 20% better than the next guy who is far farrr below you in every aspect.

    More degrees simply deflates the value of a degree. It also makes it brutally competitive to get into post secondary if the number is capped.
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