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    Question Shoes for Lifting and Cardio Activities

    Having done a bit of research on the Internet, my girlfriend and I are looking to purchase a pair of shoes for the gym, specifically for lifting and cardio activities for now. I know Converse are considered excellent cheap shoes for weightlifting and I actually have a pair of low tops. However I do not like wearing them at all, especially when it comes to cardio activities. Plus they seem to slide around a lot. My girlfriend cannot wear Converse either because she has slightly wider feet. We are considering the following shoes:

    Reebok Crossfit Nano 4.0
    New Balance Minimus MX20V4

    Are they good for our use? If not, what are your recommendations? Thanks!

    Edit: I should mention that my girlfriend had an injury in the past in her thigh and arm due to a bad fall when she was dancing. Not too sure the details of her injury though.
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    A shoe that has enough cushioning in the sole (for absorbing impact) to make it good for cardio will make it bad for weight training.

    Weightlifting shoes need a hard sole so they don't have any 'give' in them, just the opposite of what you need for cardio.
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    for your converse, maybe you can just rip the insoles out and tie them up tight for your lifting? buy a pair of shoes appropriate for your cardio and then just bring your converse along for the lifting portion of your workout.

    i wear a pair of vibrams for lifting in my basement (i'd lift barefoot except it's a mess down there) but i don't think it'd like to be running around too much in them, maybe if i wore the socks with them they wouldn't slide around quite so much...
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    this, essentially Chucks are about the only one that can do both reasonably well.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    A shoe that has enough cushioning in the sole (for absorbing impact) to make it good for cardio will make it bad for weight training.

    Weightlifting shoes need a hard sole so they don't have any 'give' in them, just the opposite of what you need for cardio.
    What do you mean by so they don't give in? Does it make the lift dangerous or something? I know and see a lot of people lifting in regular running shoes or whatever. I know just because they do it doesn't mean it is right, but am honestly wondering why it's not good to lift in running shoes.

    A lot of /r/fitness members on Reddit for example seem to recommend the New Balance Minimus, which is why I'm considering them for our gym activities. I'm not too sure on the Reebok Nano 4.0 but they fit my girlfriend perfectly and have a fairly hard sole as well. Plus my girlfriend is lifting next to nothing and probably won't make much progress due to her injury.

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    this, essentially Chucks are about the only one that can do both reasonably well.
    I tried running in my pair of Converse. Never again will I do that. Ever. Unless I have some sort of emergency like I'm running for my life. Plus they don't fit my girlfriend's feet like I mentioned.
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    Originally Posted by geokilla View Post
    What do you mean by so they don't give in? Does it make the lift dangerous or something? I know and see a lot of people lifting in regular running shoes or whatever. I know just because they do it doesn't mean it is right, but am honestly wondering why it's not good to lift in running shoes.
    if you squatting 225 pounds, that weight is being transferred from the bar to your body to the floor, through your shoes. if your shoes have a cushion that absorb some of that weight, how much weight are you lifting?

    also once you get to heavier weight, do you really want to hoist 500 pounds onto your back knowing that your shoes have a spongy sole and will give? or do you want a nice solid contact between you and the floor?

    again: buy some cardio shoes and lift in your converse, or buy 2 pairs of shoes.

    i would suggest you lift barefoot as an alternative to lifting shoes, but every gym that i know of requires shoes.
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    Originally Posted by geokilla View Post
    I tried running in my pair of Converse. Never again will I do that. Ever. Unless I have some sort of emergency like I'm running for my life. Plus they don't fit my girlfriend's feet like I mentioned.
    are you saying you're better than Rocky, cause they were good enough for Rocky
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    Originally Posted by Domicron View Post
    if you squatting 225 pounds, that weight is being transferred from the bar to your body to the floor, through your shoes. if your shoes have a cushion that absorb some of that weight, how much weight are you lifting?
    From this logic, if I have super squishy shoes I should be able to lift more weight since the shoes are absorbing some of the weight for me.
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    Originally Posted by Icey101 View Post
    From this logic, if I have super squishy shoes I should be able to lift more weight since the shoes are absorbing some of the weight for me.
    sorry i'm being stupid. what i meant to say is that cushions absorb force which you should be applying to the bar, instead of to the shoes.
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    I have pretty wide feet and found that the Chuck's fit quite narrow for me to the point of some discomfort during heavy squats or deads.

    For the last six months or so I've been using Nano 4.0's when training and doing cardio and have found them extremely comfortable and durable for my purposes, with a relatively flat/hard sole. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the rubbery mesh on top which can feel a bit strange or bunch up if you don't get a size that fits really well.

    That said, I'd agree with the folks above in that I still far prefer and use a dedicated lifting shoe or go barefoot when doing heavier compound movements.
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    a lot of athletes (football, baseball, basketball, etc) use minimalist trainers for the lifting and non-lifting portions of their workout. Nike Free 3.0 and 5.0 trainers (not the running shoe of the same name) are very popular as are various New Balance minimalist trainers.
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    Originally Posted by geokilla View Post
    Having done a bit of research on the Internet, my girlfriend and I are looking to purchase a pair of shoes for the gym, specifically for lifting and cardio activities for now. I know Converse are considered excellent cheap shoes for weightlifting and I actually have a pair of low tops. However I do not like wearing them at all, especially when it comes to cardio activities. Plus they seem to slide around a lot. My girlfriend cannot wear Converse either because she has slightly wider feet. We are considering the following shoes:

    Reebok Crossfit Nano 4.0
    New Balance Minimus MX20V4

    Are they good for our use? If not, what are your recommendations? Thanks!

    Edit: I should mention that my girlfriend had an injury in the past in her thigh and arm due to a bad fall when she was dancing. Not too sure the details of her injury though.
    A few questions, OP.

    1. Are you and your GF going to wear the same pair of shoes?
    2. Do you and your GF have to wear the same brand of shoes?
    3. Do you really think one pair of shoes will work for running and weightlifting?
    4. Is your GF going to see a doctor before running or weightlifting?

    And one final question:

    5. Are you going to use a weightlifting belt?

    If you are, make sure the shoes match the belt. . . . .

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    A few questions, OP.

    1. Are you and your GF going to wear the same pair of shoes?
    2. Do you and your GF have to wear the same brand of shoes?
    3. Do you really think one pair of shoes will work for running and weightlifting?
    4. Is your GF going to see a doctor before running or weightlifting?

    And one final question:

    5. Are you going to use a weightlifting belt?

    If you are, make sure the shoes match the belt. . . . .


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    Originally Posted by geokilla View Post
    What do you mean by so they don't give in?
    Soft soles will allow your ankles to "turn," decreasing your stability, and increasing the possibility of an ankle injury, especially when heavy weight is applied to the equation.

    The best situation for weight training would be to train barefoot, providing the best possible proprioception, but that's not practical, nor generally allowed, in commercial environments. The next best thing would be to wear shoes designed for the specific activity.



    I know and see a lot of people lifting in regular running shoes or whatever.
    Lots of people do lots of stupid stuff in fitness centers. Best not to follow their lead. And from what I've heard of "Reddit," best not to get any weight training advices from there either.
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    Originally Posted by ironwill2008 View Post
    Soft soles will allow your ankles to "turn," decreasing your stability, and increasing the possibility of an ankle injury, especially when heavy weight is applied to the equation.

    The best situation for weight training would be to train barefoot, providing the best possible proprioception, but that's not practical, nor generally allowed, in commercial environments. The next best thing would be to wear shoes designed for the specific activity.

    Lots of people do lots of stupid stuff in fitness centers. Best not to follow their lead. And from what I've heard of "Reddit," best not to get any weight training advices from there either.
    I see. Thanks for the explanation. However my girlfriend probably isn't going to be able to squat more than a plate in the next year or two, considering she can't even squat the bar right now. Whether that is considered heavy or not, I don't know. What I do know is that Converse causes her feet to ache and hurt like hell within 30 minutes so they are absolutely out of consideration. The two shoes I listed are designed for the specific activity.

    Yep I know, I mentioned that in my post. /r/fitness actually has a lot of good information though. You just gotta keep an open mind and know where to look and use your head. I've been on that site for a long time and I've learned a lot of stuff related to fitness on there that I didn't learn here, partially because the forums have too much trolling going on here. Of course at the same time, I also learned a lot of stuff here prior to joining Reddit.

    Enlighten me on this please. Form is crucial compared to how heavy one can squat, bench, press, whatever. Plus good form is crucial in preventing injuries from occurring. But if you're not comfortable with what you're wearing, then technically you don't have good form because you can't be comfortable and achieve good form to begin with right? Cleveland33 said Rocky ran in Converse so I should do it too? Isn't comfort as important as good form? happydude101 and sowilson seem to understand what I'm talking about. Maybe.
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    And one final question:

    5. Are you going to use a weightlifting belt?

    If you are, make sure the shoes match the belt. . . . .

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    Nanos or Metcons. Nano 5.0 should be out next month with a new design. That usually means previous models will be discounted further. While the 3.0 was out, I got 1.0 for $44. When the 4.0 was out, I got 2.0 for $50.
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    Nanos or Metcons. Nano 5.0 should be out next month with a new design. That usually means previous models will be discounted further. While the 3.0 was out, I got 1.0 for $44. When the 4.0 was out, I got 2.0 for $50.
    Reebok shill.
    You need a good rack, a bench, and a 300-lb Olympic weight set. Now, what was your question?

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    Reebok shill.
    They make Nanos for you too:

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    Originally Posted by Bench905 View Post
    They make Nanos for you too:


    Well-played. Still, they're not from 'Murica. Plus, they are associated with Pukey the Clown and Uncle Rhabdo. I will hit you with the chiclets next chance I get.
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    What do you mean by so they don't give in? Does it make the lift dangerous or something? I know and see a lot of people lifting in regular running shoes or whatever. I know just because they do it doesn't mean it is right, but am honestly wondering why it's not good to lift in running shoes.

    A lot of /r/fitness members on Reddit for example seem to recommend the New Balance Minimus, which is why I'm considering them for our gym activities. I'm not too sure on the Reebok Nano 4.0 but they fit my girlfriend perfectly and have a fairly hard sole as well. Plus my girlfriend is lifting next to nothing and probably won't make much progress due to her injury.



    I tried running in my pair of Converse. Never again will I do that. Ever. Unless I have some sort of emergency like I'm running for my life. Plus they don't fit my girlfriend's feet like I mentioned.

    Those reebox nanos fit the bill, they are a zero drop show with no cushioning so running in them will take some getting used to but you can do it just fine.
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    Originally Posted by geokilla View Post
    I see. Thanks for the explanation. However my girlfriend probably isn't going to be able to squat more than a plate in the next year or two, considering she can't even squat the bar right now. Whether that is considered heavy or not, I don't know.
    It's heavy for her, and that's the only consideration that's important.



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    Enlighten me on this please. Form is crucial compared to how heavy one can squat, bench, press, whatever. Plus good form is crucial in preventing injuries from occurring. But if you're not comfortable with what you're wearing, then technically you don't have good form because you can't be comfortable and achieve good form to begin with right? Cleveland33 said Rocky ran in Converse so I should do it too? Isn't comfort as important as good form? happydude101 and sowilson seem to understand what I'm talking about. Maybe.
    There isn't anything inherently 'comfortable' about heavy weight training. If you're most interested in making consistent progress while at the same time having your best opportunity at remaining injury-free, train with proper/approved equipment.
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    3. Do you really think one pair of shoes will work for running and weightlifting?





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    I just ordered a pair of Heyday Footwear. Comes in 5 days. I hear it's great for both lifting and cardio. I will let you know.
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