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    interesting facebook comment on the thibs firing that i thought you guys may find interesting:

    Counter point: The Bulls elevated Matt Lloyd to director of college scouting in 2007. He has been credited with pushing for the picks of Joakim, Derrick, Taj, and Jimmy. Taj and Jimmy are notable as late 1st round college picks, but it's easy to forget that there was considerable debate whether Rose or Michael Beasley would be the top selection in 2008. Since Gar-Pax let Lloyd leave, they have drafted Teague and Snell and moved up to draft McDermott. McDermott's transition to the NBA is still a HUGE question mark, with the odds stacked against him. Snell has wavered between kinda good and downright bad. Admittedly, he has looked much better when his minutes have been more consistent, but it's on the individual to force their way into a lineup when they join a team. Teague was absolutely terrible. It was Gar-Pax's insistence that they draft him over Draymond Green - who Thibs wanted badly, and who has been VERY good - that really accelerated the falling out between the two factions. It's also worth noting that the PG's they have resurrected have more or less gone right back to the scrap heap after leaving Thibs' direction.

    As for injuries, too much has been placed on Thibs. He certainly didn't help, but Derrick didn't get hurt because he played too much. The guy just has crappy knees. Jo has lasted as long as can be reasonably expected for a high energy big. If minutes were the primary driving factor in injuries, Jimmy Butler would be dead. Furthermore, Deng has played eleven years in the NBA, and the 3 and half years under Thibs was easily his best period.

    I'm not saying Thibs should coach the Bulls next year - the confrontational nature of his relationship with the front office made it impossible for the team to succeed. Nor am I saying that Gar and Pax are fools. Thibs is a top coach and they are a top front office. But both parties acted like children. If they could each have swallowed just a bit of their pride, the Bulls would have been contenders for years to come.
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    Yoo fellas can somebody give me the rundown on Hoidberg as a coach? I don't watch college ball so I know nothing.
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    looking like thibs will be sitting next season. inb4 rose joins thibs in LA in 2 years. same for taj.

    @loljoker- from the little i've read, mcdermott, snell, and niko, will love hoiberg. runs an uptempo offense, a lot of ball movement, A LOT of 3 pt shooting, low turnovers. he was able to establish an elite offense w/o elite players at isu, so it will be interesting to see what tweaks he'll make for rose and jimmy. isu PG's had pretty low usage rates during his tenure, but again, everything changes when you have a player with the abilities of a drose. seems like a personable and real fun guy, should be good for the locker room
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    I expect to see all of you in either the NHL thread or creating game threads for the Stanley Cup


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    Originally Posted by MurkinSeason View Post
    I expect to see all of you in either the NHL thread or creating game threads for the Stanley Cup


    Let the trash talking begin!
    not even gonna pretend like i care about the blackhawks. never cared for hockey, not gonna bandwagon and act like i've been a lifelong die-harder like a majority of the phaggots who follow the hawks. there are some legit pre-2010 fans though, good on them.
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    Yoo fellas can somebody give me the rundown on Hoidberg as a coach? I don't watch college ball so I know nothing.
    I used to be a huge hoiberg hater, but I am on the hype train with him now. Here is a legit article breaking down what he will do. http://www.todaysfastbreak.com/nba-e...gy-head-coach/

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    not even gonna pretend like i care about the blackhawks. never cared for hockey, not gonna bandwagon and act like i've been a lifelong die-harder like a majority of the phaggots who follow the hawks. there are some legit pre-2010 fans though, good on them.
    Haha I act like the biggest hawks bandwagon fan. But I do it more to piss my friends off because none of them care about hockey (I dont really either) and that carried into me posting on here at times during the hawks games. I do think NHL playoffs are exciting though, at times.
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    interesting that fred brought up etwuan moore several times. didn't mention kirk at all, lol.

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    interesting that fred brought up etwuan moore several times. didn't mention kirk at all, lol.


    Yup praised Thibs a lot also. Loves the roster.

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    Yup praised Thibs a lot also. Loves the roster.

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    i feel like the bulls need some major upgrades for 3 point shooter. dunleavy is fine but we need others. who would be available?
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    i feel like the bulls need some major upgrades for 3 point shooter. dunleavy is fine but we need others. who would be available?
    Jalen Rose said he thinks the Bulls may land Wes Matthews....not sure if I want that or not considering not many guys really come back from Achilles injuries

    If he gets lowballed by everyone I can see the Bulls try and scoop him up though....would mean Dunleavy is bye bye. Starting 5 of Rose/Butler/Matthews/Gasol/?????? would be sick and I have a feeling the team will be a lot healthier this year with Thibs gone.
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    they can't really make any major upgrades, is wes matthews an upgrade at this point? wilson chandler? i think they're banking on mcdermott, snell, and niko. mcdermott and snell being the big question marks. i'd like for them to bring back dunelavy, unlike korver, he became better in the playoffs.

    some fans want a rose trade, others want for the bulls to let jimmy walk, so they can sign dwade. i don't get it. i know rose is due in 2 years, but i think you let it play out with this backcourt and see what happens. you have an elite PG in rose, who showed flashes of the superstar MVP throughout the playoffs, and an elite complementary player in Jimmy. both are still young. why start over? they can win now.
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    they can't really make any major upgrades, is wes matthews an upgrade at this point? wilson chandler? i think they're banking on mcdermott, snell, and niko. mcdermott and snell being the big question marks. i'd like for them to bring back dunelavy, unlike korver, he became better in the playoffs.

    some fans want a rose trade, others want for the bulls to let jimmy walk, so they can sign dwade. i don't get it. i know rose is due in 2 years, but i think you let it play out with this backcourt and see what happens. you have an elite PG in rose, who showed flashes of the superstar MVP throughout the playoffs, and an elite complementary player in Jimmy. both are still young. why start over? they can win now.

    I'm pretty sure rose, and Butler are locks for right now. I wouldn't be surprised if the Bulls traded Noah or Gibson for a solid 3 spot. But, then again I think we should keep the same team, and develop what's there. Maybe get a legitimate backup point guard, and a dead eye shooter to come off the bench.
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    they can't really make any major upgrades, is wes matthews an upgrade at this point? wilson chandler? i think they're banking on mcdermott, snell, and niko. mcdermott and snell being the big question marks. i'd like for them to bring back dunelavy, unlike korver, he became better in the playoffs.

    some fans want a rose trade, others want for the bulls to let jimmy walk, so they can sign dwade. i don't get it. i know rose is due in 2 years, but i think you let it play out with this backcourt and see what happens. you have an elite PG in rose, who showed flashes of the superstar MVP throughout the playoffs, and an elite complementary player in Jimmy. both are still young. why start over? they can win now.
    People are retarded. Jimmy Butler is not someone you can let walk at this point. Dude is turning into a beast and is one of the best defenders in the league while becoming a serious offensive threat.
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    People are retarded. Jimmy Butler is not someone you can let walk at this point. Dude is turning into a beast and is one of the best defenders in the league while becoming a serious offensive threat.
    this. i wuold much sooner part with derrick than jimmy.
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    this. i wuold much sooner part with derrick than jimmy.
    yea, if both healthy, rose is a superstar when healthy, even now. this wouldn't even be a conversation if derrick never had the knee injuries. jimmy can't do what derrick does. but healthy rose is always a question nowadays and may be for the rest of his career, so yea most would agree that you part with rose over jimmy first. but bulls need both right now. want to see rose win at least 1 with chicago and jimmy, before he joins thibs in LA, and wins more over there.

    hoiberg made it a point that rose is at his best when he's playing fast, downhill. and i think he'll be much more aggressive and consistent now that he's tested his body through a season. cliffs of 2015-2016 derrick rose. ferrari rose in transition hnnnngggg. rest in pieces


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    Id welcome a taj (and even snell if we have to) for wes matthews in a sign and trade, but I would want a prove it type deal. Short deal, but if he wants money then give it to him. Like 2yrs 30mil, 3rd year team option. But not sure Wes would do that since id guess he would want more security.

    We dont even need to make big moves. Heck a legit offseason would be something like a haul of Lin (mmle), Wes Johnson (vet min, good 3 and D guy off the bench, and athletic), and Javelle McGee (athletic but dumb big on non guaranteed vet min) and then the draft pick. Let Nazr and Dunleavy walk. Hope Kirk retires. Possibly release Bairstow to make room.

    Just get more athletic overall so we can run.

    I also think Hoiberg will start Mirotic this year and bring Noah or Pau off the bench if both are still on the team. And if who ever gets benched cries about it, then trade their ass. If Iggy and David Lee can handle coming off the bench/not even playing, then these guys can do it too and not cry, especially if it betters the teams chance at a title.
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    I think the only move we need to make is one to get an athletic big. I think the lack of athleticism of the front court was our biggest weakness this year
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    jimmy seeking shorter term deal + unrestricted FA is no surprise, with increasing cap. has said he's not chasing money, we'll see

    rose and jimmy playing elsewhere by 2017 is a definite possibility now. especially with garpax crew.
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    If the bulls dont win a title within the next 2 years (2 more years of Rose and 2yrs plus 3rd yr player option with butler id guess), then they should just blow EVERYTHING up. Everything up until the owner. Just start completely over, even if that means no rose or butler. If they cant win in the next 2 years with them, they will never win.
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    addressed a need in bobby porter pick. now need to bring in a non-manlet veteran pg. maybe they keep moore, decent shooter, has length, can defend well.
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