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    With some great recs from you guys I worked some more on this York bar. 0000 steel wool with flitz polish for the sleeves worked great. I did wire wheel the collars and the sleeves just a bit but thought this would leave scratches on the sleeves. Iโ€™m not sure what else to do with the knurling, a bit of a challenge to clean in the grooves. Iโ€™ve been using the brass tooth brush with wd40 penetrating. I may take the sleeves off, but they spin fine, not that I need them too. I started doing DLs again, not heavy, so this will be my DL bar.
    Honestly does not look as good as the picture, but a great result.
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    did Moris ever post the bars he cleaned on a bench grinder? It was a two person job but they looked brand new and he said it didn't take very long.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    did Moris ever post the bars he cleaned on a bench grinder? It was a two person job but they looked brand new and he said it didn't take very long.
    I used bench grinder w/wire wheel on the sleeves of the '78. The 'patina' was so thick you could see and feel the ledge where the wire wheel had been. Bench grinder has more ass, way quicker than drill. Seems like dieselmike used an angle grinder??
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    Originally Posted by chadsalt View Post
    I used bench grinder w/wire wheel on the sleeves of the '78. The 'patina' was so thick you could see and feel the ledge where the wire wheel had been. Bench grinder has more ass, way quicker than drill. Seems like dieselmike used an angle grinder??
    Yea he hit the whole bar - if you want it to look like new, that would be the easiest way to do it.
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    Originally Posted by Cleveland33 View Post
    Yea he hit the whole bar - if you want it to look like new, that would be the easiest way to do it.
    The latest York bar i picked up , I cleaned the sleeves with a wire wheel on a bench grinder and finished with 0000 steel wool & oil. The bar itself had a nice, even patina and I just cleaned it with vinegar& steel wool , then wiped it down with oil.
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    All this shaft talk and no pics?
    You need a rack, a bench, and a 300-lb Olympic weight set. Now, what was your question?

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    Did the wire wheel scratch up the sleeves. I used the wheel on one sleeve for a bit then stopped. I bet if I used it more I could get the sleeve to look like new. Still have some areas of patina but overall pretty shiny.
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    Did the wire wheel scratch up the sleeves. I used the wheel on one sleeve for a bit then stopped. I bet if I used it more I could get the sleeve to look like new. Still have some areas of patina but overall pretty shiny.
    It will scratch some on the collar, but the sleeve itself didn't seem to. It did however not end up all looking the sme , maybe from heating upIDK. That's why I rubbed it out good with steel wool & oil, that evened out the finish pretty well. I think yours is shinier though, I'll have to try some of that polish.
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    Originally Posted by irongrandpa View Post
    It will scratch some on the collar, but the sleeve itself didn't seem to. It did however not end up all looking the sme , maybe from heating upIDK. That's why I rubbed it out good with steel wool & oil, that evened out the finish pretty well. I think yours is shinier though, I'll have to try some of that polish.
    Grandpa, it was in a pm from notsobigjohn that I got the rec about the flitz. He suggested the tube rather than the bottle. I went bottle since it was cheaper. Maybe you get what you pay for. The lighting made the sleeve appear more shiny than it is. I applied the flitz and scrubbed with the 0000.
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    York Plate and Dumbbell List December 2017

    I periodically repost and make revisions to this list, as I feel like it or new information warrants. I request your suggestions and corrections, with proper proof. Normally, I post the plate list after the YBBC membership update. This time, December 2017, I'm adding dumbbells to the list, and so I'm running the list separately from the YBBC update.


    Introduction
    York produced Olympic plates and bars in Pennsylvania from the early 1930's until the mid- to late-1990's. Throughout this time, plates were made Imperial/English weights (e.g., 45-lb, etc.). It is believed that by the 1940's or 1950's, York may have also begun producing plates in metric weights (e.g., 20-kg). Certainly, from the 1960's to the 1990's York made a number of Olympic plates, both in pounds and kilos. Prior to the late 60's, plates might be lathed. By 1967-68, York stopped producing deep dish plates, switching over to the design familiar with most lifters. York also began milling plates, from 45 to 2.5 pounds, with the majority of milled plates being 25, 35, or 45 pounds.



    Deep Dish Era - 1930's to 1960's

    1930's Tall Letter Yorks - Black iron York plates in pounds
    45 Lb., Deep Dish with tall "Y O R K" lettering. (Could have "50" stamped plate at edge.)
    35 Lb., the regular design, but no raised "35" on the plate. (Could have "35" stamped plate at edge.)
    25 Lb., un-numbered. (Could have "25" stamped at edge of plate.)
    10 Lb., un-numbered. (Could have "10" stamped at edge of plate.)
    5 Lb., un-numbered. (Could have "5" stamped at edge of plate.)
    2 1/2 Lb., un-numbered. (Could have "2 1/2" stamped at edge of plate.)


    Late 1930's ("40's era") Thick Hub Yorks - Black iron York plates in pounds
    45 Lb., Deep Dish with a thick hub.
    35 Lb., the regular design, but no raised "35" on the plate. (Could have "35" stamped at edge of plate.)
    25 Lb., un-numbered. (Could have "25" stamped at edge of plate.)
    10 Lb., un-numbered. (Could have "10" stamped at edge of plate.)
    5 Lb., un-numbered. (Could have "5" stamped at edge of plate.)
    2 1/2 Lb., un-numbered. (Could have "2 1/2" stamped at edge of plate.)

    Some have reported seeing these plates in magazines as early as 1938. Additionally, at some point during deep dish production, perhaps after 1940, York made 75 Lb. thick hub, deep dish plates. They were superficially similar to the thick hub 45s.


    Early 50's, perhaps 1952 to 1954? - Deep Dish Set
    45 Lb., Deep Dish (may be lathed).
    35 Lb., Deep Dish (may be lathed).
    25 Lb., Deep Dish (may be lathed).
    10 Lb., un-numbered (assume sometimes stamped as with earlier change plates).
    5 Lb., un-numbered (assume sometimes stamped as with earlier change plates).
    2 1/2 Lb., un-numbered (assume sometimes stamped as with earlier change plates).


    Late 50's to the late 60's - Black iron York plates in pounds
    45 Lb., Deep Dish (some are lathed)
    35 Lb., numbered (numeral bottom should be facing hub/clockwise; some are lathed).
    25 Lb. numbered (some are lathed).
    10 Lb., numbered.
    5 Lb., numbered.
    2 1/2 Lb., numbered.

    Note: Deep dish 45s may have the raised "45" under "YORK", or they may be un-numbered. It is believed that DDs could have "45" on them as early as the 50's, but into the 60's York was selling un-numbered 45-lb deep dish plates. Additionally, there are photos from international competitions in the 50's appearing to show 20-kg deep dish plates.


    "Modern" era York Plates - 1960's to 1990's

    Late 60's to the 90's - Black iron York plates in pounds

    45 Lb., 4-spoke
    35 Lb. (Numeral head facing hub/counter-clockwise)
    35 Lb. (Numeral head facing rim/clockwise - believed to be older)
    25 Lb.
    10 Lb.
    5 Lb.
    2-1/2 Lb.

    Any of these plates could be milled, though it was more common for 45s, 35s, and 25s to be milled, and anecdotally earlier plates of this era seem to be milled. The plates least likely to be found milled are 2.5 lb plates. And when they are milled it is more likely that they have, or will have, cracks in them.

    In the 1980's, if not sooner, York made 100-Lb. 4-spoke plates (milled or unmilled). These plates could be gold or black. It is believed that the gold plates were more precise and intended for competition.



    Black iron York plates in kilograms
    20 Kg 4-spoke (similar in appearance to black iron 45-lb plate).
    15 Kg (similar in appearance to 35-lb plate - one of two unicorns of Kg plates).
    10 Kg (similar in appearance to 25-lb plate; numeral At 12 O'clock position).
    10 Kg (similar in appearance to 25-lb plate;numeral At 6 O'clock position).
    5 Kg (similar in appearance to 10-lb plate).
    2-1/2 Kg (similar in appearance to 5-lb plate).
    1-1/4 Kg (similar in appearance to 2 1/2-lb plate).

    All Kg plates have been seen with milling. The plates least likely to be found milled are 1.25 Kg plates.

    In 1984, if not sooner, York added the following plates:
    45 Kg 4-spoke (milled or unmilled, similar in appearance to the milled 100-lb plates).
    25 Kg 4-spoke (milled or unmilled, similar in appearance to the 45 Kg plate).

    These plates could be gold or black.

    York Kg plates made in the 70's and 80's had kilograms indicated by "KG". Earlier versions (1950's to 70's?) exist with "Kg" markings instead of "KG".



    USA-marked Plates
    By the 90's, York began moving plate production off-shore. The better quality Oly plates were made in the US, with "USA" markings on the hubs. The smaller plates had "YORK" above the hubs and the 35 Lb plates were smaller 4-spoke versions of the 45s. The rims of the 45s were machined and the 45s were about 1/4 to 3/8" shorter than previous York 45s.

    The York Hercules Olympic line was York's economy line. The first run of these unmilled cast plates were produced in the US, with "USA" on the hubs, before moving production off-shore.



    Metallic Blue Line
    York also painted their plates and roundhead dumbbells a metallic blue for sale in big box sporting goods stores, during the 80's and 90's. For some reason, even today these weights are often seen with the original stickers on them.



    NFL, Custom Lines

    In the 1990's, York made plates for the NFL, and had a custom Line for college football teams (University of Hawaii), gyms (Iron Island Gym) and businesses. These plates might be of the 3-spoke or easy-grip varieties (Browns, Disney). The US Naval Academy's plates were blue and gold and had "Beat Army" on them.



    York bumper plates in kilograms

    "70's" era bumpers

    25 Kg, Red with black rubber rim (more than one variation seen)
    20 Kg, Blue, four-spoked with black rubber rim


    These plates seem to show up in 1974. The backs of the bumper plates typically were milled and the plates were marked with raised "Kg" lettering. The 25 Kg bumpers are thicker than the 20 Kg bumpers, and the 20 Kg bumpers are four-spoked. No 15 Kg bumpers appear to have been manufactured or sold from this era of bumpers.


    "Transitional" 80's era bumpers
    In the early 1980's, black rubber rimmed bumpers with iron cores similar to the later "80's era" bumpers appeared in York catalogs. The backs of the bumper plates typically were milled and the plates were marked with raised "Kg" lettering. These transitional bumpers do not have spokes.


    25 Kg, Red
    20 Kg, Blue
    15 Kg, Yellow (added 1984)


    "80's" era bumpers
    Used at the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles, the rubber rim was the same color as the paint on the iron cores. The backs of the bumper plates typically were milled and the plates were marked with raised "Kg" lettering.

    45 Kg, Green (the second of two unicorns in Kg plates)
    25 Kg, Red
    20 Kg, Blue
    15 Kg, Yellow


    Solid Rubber Discs
    Apparently first introduced in 1984, the "discs" had a brass insert and were made of solid rubber. All were the same size, meaning that heavier discs were thicker.
    25 Kg, red lettering
    20 Kg, blue lettering
    15 Kg, yellow lettering
    10 Kg, yellow lettering



    Black iron, unmilled York standard plates bored out at the factory
    100 Lb.
    75 Lb.
    50 Lb.

    These double-sided plates are non-milled. Initially a special order item, bored out to 2" at York, these plates were later marketed and sold as Oly plates. The 75 and 100 Lb plates can be found with or without the "USA" markings on them. Less seen are bored out 50 Lb plates, though York did do so on occasion.


    Dumbbells

    Solid Dumbbells (SDB) - Buns and Globes

    York's earliest dumbbells--dating from the 1930's until the 1970's or 80's--were an interesting mish-mash of designs. Weights were: 1 to 10-lbs; 12 lbs; and in 5-lb increments from 15 to 100-lbs. Dumbbells up to 45 pounds are known as "buns", and 50 to 100 pounds are "globes", because of the way they look. Of the buns, the 40-lb'ers are very similar to the later Roundheads. Some buns have a "US" after the weight, with some also painted white instead of black. It is believed that the "US" markings may have been for government contracts during WWII. This is unverified. Other buns have been seen with "USN" markings on them, presumably for the U.S. Navy. Of the buns and globes, the 12-lb buns are the rarest of all, with only three such dumbbells known to exist.


    Solid Dumbbells (BSDB and SDB) - Roundheads

    โ€œRoundheadโ€ dumbbells came in the following sizes: 1 to 10-lbs; 12 lbs; and in 5-lb increments from 15 to 100-lbs. These dumbbells can be found with or without the USA markings, providing a rough means of identifying age. USA-marked Roundheads have thicker handles than non-USA marked Roundheads. Additionally, York sold Roundheads in metallic blue, to go along with their Olympic plates.

    Among serious York collectors is the story that York made a few pairs of Roundheads over 100-lbs. for York lifters.


    Fit Bells (VCD) โ€“ Vinyl-covered Roundheads

    York offered vinyl-covered dumbbells in three sizes: VCD1, white 1-lb; VCD3, red 3-lbs; and VCD5, blue 5-lbs.


    Gym Dumbbells (BDBOD and DBOD)

    By the 1980โ€™s, York was also offering pro-style โ€œGymโ€ dumbbells, in 5-lb increments from 5-lbs to 150-lbs.
    Last edited by AttyGuy; 12-09-2017 at 02:28 PM.
    You need a rack, a bench, and a 300-lb Olympic weight set. Now, what was your question?

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    Wonder who has the pair of 12lb buns? Do you the shimmer and sparkle?
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    Wonder who has the pair of 12lb buns? Do you the shimmer and sparkle?
    Like unicorns. All the Bronies want to know...
    You need a rack, a bench, and a 300-lb Olympic weight set. Now, what was your question?

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    Originally Posted by AttyGuy View Post
    Solid Dumbbells (SDB) - Buns and Globes

    York's earliest dumbbells--dating from the 1930's until the 1970's or 80's--were an interesting mish-mash of designs. Weights were: 1 to 10-lbs; 12 lbs; and in 5-lb increments from 15 to 100-lbs. Dumbbells up to 45 pounds are known as "buns", and 50 to 100 pounds are "globes", because of the way they look. Of the buns, the 40-lb'ers are very similar to the later Roundheads. Some buns have a "US" after the weight, with some also painted white instead of black. It is believed that the "US" markings may have been for government contracts during WWII. This is unverified. Other buns have been seen with "USN" markings on them, presumably for the U.S. Navy. Of the buns and globes, the 12-lb buns are the rarest of all, with only three such dumbbells known to exist.
    examples

    20s are roundheads

    i always assumed buns and globes went 5 to 100. good to know.





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