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    Originally Posted by NegOnSite View Post
    lmao @ thinking conservatives are any different from labour
    They're a different party with a different set of policies. Just because you don't know enough to know the difference doesn't make them the same, it just means you should read
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    Originally Posted by hewhodar3s View Post
    They're all doing their best to stop people voting UKIP by scaremongering, only weak minded people care about that type of thing.
    Not really, it is purely fact based on the system we have. UKIP are projected on anywhere from 1-4 or 5 seats but the 15-20% they might pick up in other constituencies by people who would otherwise vote for another party could make a massive difference.
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    Originally Posted by infinit View Post
    Not really, it is purely fact based on the system we have. UKIP are projected on anywhere from 1-4 or 5 seats but the 15-20% they might pick up in other constituencies by people who would otherwise vote for another party could make a massive difference.
    People don't realise that ALL mainstream parties are pro EU and pro mass migration, it doesn't make much of a difference who gets in. If you want to vote for pro EU parties go ahead and do it, but I won't be

    Even if you live in the safest Labour seat in the country, but you agree with UKIP policy you should vote UKIP anyway, it's a vote against the establishment parties and the EU. Plus we might get the voting system changed...
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    Originally Posted by hewhodar3s View Post
    People don't realise that ALL mainstream parties are pro EU and pro mass migration, it doesn't make much of a difference who gets in. If you want to vote for pro EU parties go ahead and do it, but I won't be

    Even if you live in the safest Labour seat in the country, but you agree with UKIP policy you should vote UKIP anyway, it's a vote against the establishment parties and the EU. Plus we might get the voting system changed...
    Obviously it depends on your constituency, if it is a strong Labour seat you might as well vote for whoever.

    I'd much rather vote Conservative on the 50% chance they give a referendum than vote UKIP and have a 0% chance of a referendum because they aren't going to be in a position to do anything.
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    Originally Posted by ShabbaLife View Post
    They're a different party with a different set of policies. Just because you don't know enough to know the difference doesn't make them the same, it just means you should read
    tell me one ****ing difference between the tories and labour, and dont tell me labour wants to tax more, cause i dont give a ****
    Vote UKIP
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    Originally Posted by infinit View Post
    Obviously it depends on your constituency, if it is a strong Labour seat you might as well vote for whoever.

    I'd much rather vote Conservative on the 50% chance they give a referendum than vote UKIP and have a 0% chance of a referendum because they aren't going to be in a position to do anything.
    The point about voting UKIP right now is to get enough UKIP MP's to FORCE the Tories to give us a free and fair referendum, because you can bet your life it won't be free or fair if we get one at all.
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    Originally Posted by NegOnSite View Post
    tell me one ****ing difference between the tories and labour, and dont tell me labour wants to tax more, cause i dont give a ****
    http://www.***.co.uk/news/election/2015/manifesto-guide
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    so in other words, you don't know.


    get the **** out of here
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    Originally Posted by hewhodar3s View Post
    The point about voting UKIP right now is to get enough UKIP MP's to FORCE the Tories to give us a free and fair referendum, because you can bet your life it won't be free or fair if we get one at all.
    I highly doubt that they are going to give a **** about 2-4 MPs. And that is on the assumption that Labour don't end up creeping through the back door.
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    Originally Posted by NegOnSite View Post
    so in other words, you don't know.


    get the **** out of here
    I just linked you to a ****ing comprehensive guide on the different parties policies for different areas. I sure as **** wasn't going to write them all out.

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    Originally Posted by NegOnSite View Post
    tell me one ****ing difference between the tories and labour, and dont tell me labour wants to tax more, cause i dont give a ****
    The fact that you don't care doesn't negate it as a difference?


    So

    Labour no EU referendum
    Labour freezing energy prices
    Labour raising minimum wage
    Wealth taxes 'mansion tax'
    Raising 45p rate to 50p
    More benefits (eg. "bedroom tax" abolished)

    Just off the top of my head
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    Originally Posted by infinit View Post
    I highly doubt that they are going to give a **** about 2-4 MPs. And that is on the assumption that Labour don't end up creeping through the back door.
    a labour government would be the fastest route to a ukip government in 2020.

    btw, conservatives and labour are the same party. they pretend they are tough from the flank they lean towards.
    for example, conservatives pretend to be tough on immigration, but they are identical to the labour on immigration.
    labour pretend to be tough on zero hour contracts, even tony blair said he'd get rid of zero hour contracts. they are in fact identical on zero hour contracts.
    labour pretends to be tough on tax evasion, but we all know they wont do **** all about it.

    politics is about which wing you appear to be on, not which wing you actually are on, the people are too stupid to see this, including yourself. we should take the right to vote off people like you
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    Keep voting for your pro EU parties, keep hoping you're going to get your referendum, keep believing the excuses they come up with when they deny us our democratic say.

    Originally Posted by NegOnSite View Post
    a labour government would be the fastest route to a ukip government in 2020.
    Doubt it, because the Tories are delusional enough to believe that the next 5 years under their control will be better. These people are tribal voters and will likely never change their voting behaviour.
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    Originally Posted by ShabbaLife View Post
    The fact that you don't care doesn't negate it as a difference?


    So

    Labour no EU referendum
    Labour freezing energy prices
    Labour raising minimum wage
    Wealth taxes 'mansion tax'
    Raising 45p rate to 50p
    More benefits (eg. "bedroom tax" abolished)

    Just off the top of my head
    tories = no referendum either.
    labour wont freeze energy prices
    minimum wage naturally increases
    mansion tax will raise **** all
    5% lmao you think that will make a difference
    more benefits = negligible
    Vote UKIP
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    Originally Posted by NegOnSite View Post
    there is no will anymore for the scots to stay in the uk. the conservatives have vested interests in the snp because they will do so much damage to labour seats.
    also, the reason why snp is so popular is because scots are ultra left wing, they dont understand anything about anything so they just vote snp
    Can confirm. I am Scottish. Will be voting SNP
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    Originally Posted by NegOnSite View Post
    a labour government would be the fastest route to a ukip government in 2020.

    btw, conservatives and labour are the same party. they pretend they are tough from the flank they lean towards.
    for example, conservatives pretend to be tough on immigration, but they are identical to the labour on immigration.
    labour pretend to be tough on zero hour contracts, even tony blair said he'd get rid of zero hour contracts. they are in fact identical on zero hour contracts.
    labour pretends to be tough on tax evasion, but we all know they wont do **** all about it.

    politics is about which wing you appear to be on, not which wing you actually are on, the people are too stupid to see this, including yourself. we should take the right to vote off people like you
    I am sorry but if you think that UKIP have any realistic prospect of getting a majority in 5 years time you really have no clue about the voting system which is ironic for someone saying other people should have their vote taken off them. I actually nearly spit out my drink in amusement.

    There is literally no feasible set of circumstances with the exception of a meteorite strike which is going to enable UKIP to get a majority in 5 years. The Lib dems got 23% in the last election and ended up with 57 seats, Labour got 29% and ended up with 258. Please find me a SINGLE credible unbias source who even brings up the idea of a UKIP majority in 2020 as even an unlikely possibility.
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    Originally Posted by NegOnSite View Post
    tories = no referendum either.
    labour wont freeze energy prices
    minimum wage naturally increases
    mansion tax will raise **** all
    5% lmao you think that will make a difference
    more benefits = negligible
    Tories have pledged a referendum and only a tinfoil would say they're not gonna hold it.

    Mansion tax and 50p rate wil raise fuk all but will make rich people leave the UK. and 5% is a lot when you're earning over 150k.

    Minimum wage does not naturally increase above inflation, it naturally follows inflation.

    More benefits = hugely expensive and a massive effect on borrowing and therefore eventually taxes
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    all the scaremongering by politicians that if you vote for 1 party you'll get another is fukking disgusting, what ever happened to just voting for the party you want to win? Yes some parties take votes from others with similar policies etc but confusing the public with their votes is just another way to undermine democracy.

    How about everybody votes for the party they want, that way the seats in parliament will go to those who people wanted to vote for in the first place.

    Voting UKIP. Don't like how unelected officials of the EU control this country over our politicians, our population is expanding without the space to do so, primary school places are stretched, NHS is stretched, wages are compressed, dangerous criminals can freely come here, chitloads of people flocking here for free benefits, our very way of life is being eroded away by bureaucrats.

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    Originally Posted by infinit View Post
    I am sorry but if you think that UKIP have any realistic prospect of getting a majority in 5 years time you really have no clue about the voting system which is ironic for someone saying other people should have their vote taken off them. I actually nearly spit out my drink in amusement.
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    UKIP won't get a majority, but even a swing of a few points will mean that they get exponentially more seats. Two or three dozen seats will not be out if the question in the next election
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    I urge everyone to vote UKIP
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    Originally Posted by Hazbollah View Post
    UKIP won't get a majority, but even a swing of a few points will mean that they get exponentially more seats. Two or three dozen seats will not be out if the question in the next election
    Yeah that is potentially realistic.
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    Originally Posted by hewhodar3s View Post
    If you're a Conservative voter that happens to live here, and don't want Labour to win again, vote UKIP!

    looks very close.

    Lolling at Andrew Neil's "u fuking wot m8" face
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    Don't vote UKIP unless you're in one of their top ~5 contested seats.

    There are many Lab-Cons marginals where the balance can be swung by UKIP supporters voting tactically.

    Cameron now has his hands tied behind his back over his promises on your beloved referendum so the best chance you have is to vote Conservative.
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    why would any young person vote tory unless they're about to inherit some prime south east property?

    tories: yes, we need to desperately build new homes but we don't care enough to do anything about it
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7n6pruhUjY

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    Probably Tory.

    It'll be between them and Labour. Labour want to get rid of Trident, and I can't have that....
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    Originally Posted by BeerLambert View Post
    in birmingham

    Somebody want to translate that to English for me? WTF is it trying to say? Allah hates voting? Or vote for Allah?
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    Originally Posted by Kinbote View Post
    why would any young person vote tory unless they're about to inherit some prime south east property?

    tories: yes, we need to desperately build new homes but we don't care enough to do anything about it
    Because I want a government that spends sustainably?

    Labour spent way too much during their last period in office, won't admit they did anything wrong and will probably do it again.
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    Originally Posted by Kinbote View Post
    why would any young person vote tory unless they're about to inherit some prime south east property?

    tories: yes, we need to desperately build new homes but we don't care enough to do anything about it
    Can confirm

    want to inherit south east property lol
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